WASHINGTON (AP) â€” Roger Clemens told Yankees teammate Andy Pettitte nearly 10 years ago that he used human growth hormone, Pettitte said in a sworn affidavit to Congress, The Associated Press learned Tuesday.
Pettitte disclosed the conversation to the congressional committee holding Wednesday's hearing on drug use in baseball, a person familiar with the affidavit said. The person spoke to the AP on condition of anonymity because the document had not been made public.
According to the person familiar with the affidavit, who said it was signed Friday night, Pettitte also said Clemens backtracked when the subject of HGH came up again in conversation in 2005, before the same House committee held the first hearing on steroids in baseball.
Pettitte said in the affidavit that he asked Clemens in 2005 what he would do if asked about performance-enhancing substances, given his admission years earlier. According to the account told to the AP, the affidavit said Clemens responded by saying Pettitte misunderstood the previous exchange in 1999 or 2000 and that, in fact, Clemens had been talking about HGH use by his wife in the original conversation.
"We don't know what Andy said," Clemens' lead lawyer, Rusty Hardin, said in a statement e-mailed to the AP by his spokesman. "We look forward to hearing tomorrow."
The existence of the affidavit first was reported by The New York Times. The details of its contents were first reported by the AP.
The news came on the eve of Clemens' much-anticipated appearance to testify before the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform. His former personal trainer, Brian McNamee, is Wednesday's other main witness. McNamee told baseball investigator George Mitchell that he injected Clemens with steroids and HGH at least 16 times from 1998 to 2001. Clemens repeatedly has denied those allegations, including, he said, under oath in a deposition last week.
Pettitte also sat for a deposition at the beginning of last week, and had been scheduled to testify at the hearing. But he asked the committee to allow him to give an affidavit instead of appearing at the hearing, the person familiar with the document said. Pettitte was dropped from the witness list Monday.
McNamee also accused Pettitte of using HGH, and after the Mitchell Report's release in December, Pettitte acknowledged that he did.
On Tuesday, Clemens made the rounds on Capitol Hill one last time, wearing a gray pinstriped suit and squeezing face-to-face meetings into the busy schedules of committee members. He met with five lawmakers over a four-hour span Tuesday, on top of the 19 he saw Thursday and Friday.
"I enjoyed talking with him," said Rep. Diane Watson, D-Calif., who said the discussion included baseball stories and personal accounts about the Sept. 11 attacks. "It's always good to meet the person who is in the spotlight. ... I told him, 'This is not a trial.'"
But it might very well feel like one when Clemens and McNamee sit at the witness table and â€” under oath â€” offer what will surely be contradictory versions as to whether Clemens used steroids and HGH.
"I couldn't tell you who's telling the truth," Watson said.
Before Pettitte's affidavit came to light, Clemens got some help in his public relations push from a different ex-teammate Tuesday.
"I have never had a conversation with Clemens in which he expressed any interest in using steroids or human growth hormone," Jose Canseco said in a sworn affidavit, dated Jan. 22, that was submitted to the committee. "Clemens has never asked me to give him steroids or human growth hormone, and I have never seen Clemens use, possess or ask for steroids or human growth hormone."
In his affidavit, Canseco disputes various statements of McNamee's in the Mitchell Report. The affidavit also says "neither Senator Mitchell nor anyone working with him" contacted Canseco to attempt to corroborate things McNamee said.
Canseco's book about steroids in baseball, "Juiced," drew Congress' attention in 2005, leading to that year's hearing.
The anticipation of Wednesday's hearing rivals â€” if not surpasses â€” that of the hubbub before March 17, 2005, when Mark McGwire, Sammy Sosa and Rafael Palmeiro testified before the same committee in the same wood-paneled House hearing room. McGwire avoided answering questions about steroid use that day by repeatedly saying "I'm not here to talk about the past" â€” and his reputation has shown no signs of recovery.
"I think Roger's fully prepared to testify fully and truthfully," Hardin said. "He IS here to talk about the past."
McNamee has kept a low profile in the buildup to the hearing. He gave a closed-door deposition under oath last week, two days after Clemens did, and has been waiting until the hearing itself to retell his story.
Clemens didn't have much to say Tuesday as he walked the hallways from appointment to appointment. He said he was getting a chance to meet some "interesting people," and he waved appreciatively when two bystanders yelled: "We love you, Rocket!"
In a late addition to its case, Clemens' camp planned to submit to the committee on Wednesday a letter from a Baylor College of Medicine professor who examined medical records supplied by Hardin's office. The physician, Dr. Bert O'Malley, wrote that the records, which covered Clemens' time with four baseball clubs from April 1995 to August 2007, were "devoid of suspicious indications" of steroid use.
Although some congressmen have emphasized the hearing is not solely about Clemens or even baseball â€” concern about steroids and substance abuse among young people is the oft-stated mission â€” the focus on the 45-year-old pitcher became more apparent after several other witnesses were scratched. Like Pettitte, former Clemens teammate Chuck Knoblauch and convicted steroids distributor Kirk Radomski were dropped Monday.
The only scheduled witness besides Clemens and McNamee is Charles Scheeler, a lawyer who helped produce the Mitchell Report.
***! Where the hell is Lil' Kim when you need her? Hasn't she taught us the value of not snitchin'?
All he had to do was keep his mouth *** and maybe do a little time for Roger Clemens. He lost all he street cred now. And we all know that street cred is worth a lot whenever you cash it in. It bought Kim a new chin AND a bottom lip.
Too bad for you Pettite, now you can't do someone else's time and get plastic surgery....shame. shame.
Since this is sports, I am going to say he is snitching. If this were some real crime, like something that had physically hurt someone else, telling the proper authorities would not be snitching because only a criminal can be a snitch.
Clemmens is a dumb a$$ for lying. He should have come clean like Pettitte did and he would have been off the hook. But because he's a candidate for the baseball hall of fame he lied I guess to protect his eligibility. Now the baseball commission is going to make an example out of him. Pettitte is NOT a snitch. I can't imagine his so called "snitchin" was voluntary. They probably threatened him in some way with some sort of "aiding and abbetting" scenario so not cooperating is not an option when your livlihood is at stake. And for the record, Clemmens doc also testified to the fact that he injected him with steriods...so if it's ok for the doc to protect his neck then WHY NOT Andy Petitte. I have no sympathy for Clemmens.
Oh cares! This whole thing is long and drawn out. No one cares people...Gee wiz!!!!
you know what that is so good, because they focus so much on Barry Bonds because of his Homwrun records that they neglected to look into others. It seams to me as if they look for cracks in Black Athletes, But the others need to be stripped as well.
O well to Clemens should NOT have being cheating using steroids in the 1st place if he cared that much about not gettin caught, if he hadent done it then there wouldnt be anythin to snitch about now would there?? So he dug his own grave Pettite just helped him bury himself
HE AINT NOTHIN BUT A HO'
DAMM IT B A MAN....
the ones u think would never tell ur deepest secrets will be the FIRST ones to say something..its just how it goes.
since the beginning of sports athletes have been looking for an edge..
I think the Gov has bigger issues to deal with other than sum F'in BASEBALL! I could care less what he *** in his ***. It should be an MLB issue.
They should have their *** trying to fix the healthcare system,Jobs,wars and a million other things before wasting our tax money on SPORTS.
How u ScruWin?
SNITCHES GET STICHES AND GO DOWN IN DITCHES
WHO CARES, JUST LEAVE BARRY BONDS ALONE.....
Right on, @***
This stop-snitching mentality is THE WORST thing to ever come about.
And idiot MTO is doing their best to perpetuate it.
Do you want your kid's to grow up and use steriods just to make some owners and the sports Leagues rich??
This isn't snitching, it's keeping it real!
I dont think it's snitching when you're giving a deposition to FEDERAL INVESTIGATORS, it aint like he had a choice. If you lie you go to jail, if you tell the truth you're fine. Stop perpetuating the idiocy which is the 'STOP SNITCHING' mentality....such ignorance.
Petitte didn't exactly snitch, he just decided that it was in his best interests to tell the truth. Martha Stewart and Marion Jones both went to prison for lying to Federal investigators - not for the "crimes" they were accused of in the first place. Uncle Sam don't play when it comes to finding out what he wants to find out, please believe...
Ha! all ya'll who agree w/the "no snitchin" rule are some real dumbasses!! I'lld be damned if i was ever to go to prison for someone else, in the words of the great Whitney Houston, "OH HELL TO THE NOOO". the man did wat he had to do..
Only a complete idiot would lie to Congress and go to jail to protect someone else. After watching Marion Jones go to prison for lying, Andy was smart enough to not want to do the same.
Roger Clemens is a *** Liar!!!!!!!!Good for his A$$...They tried to get Bonds...now it's Clemens
Somebody needs to tell the truth( not that I'm endorsing snitching), but this dude is about to be a hall of fame'er. In the books as one of the greatest pitchers to ever do it. If he was using performance enhancing drugs he needs to be exposed. Look what happened to Marion Jones, honey got stripped of her trophy's, had to pay back money, and still doing jail time. Also look at Barry Bonds, this dudes record breaking home run ball got tossed around media like a big joke with an Astrix next to his name. Sammy Sosa lost his thunder while Mark McGuire is still walking around a free man and got to keep his money. There are too many double standards in America, this guy needs to be held accountable
To be honest I really don't care, cause I hate baseball, it's boring watching it is punishment, but there's no more loyalty anymore in this world......it's a shame....First it was
Jay-Z vs Dame Dash
Cam'ron vs Jim Jones
Roger Clemens vs Andy Pettitte
I'm glad he snitched on Clemens lying ***. Clemens stuttered through that whole hearing and tried to say he couldn't remember things. Old lying cheating ***. He know he took roids and now he want to lie. He can remember being told to take b12 in 88 by his mother, but can't remember a convo he had 3 years old with his close friend.
Baseball SUKSSSSS but being a snitch is Worse what happened to the words I Don't Recall
It's not snitching when you're telling the truth to Congress or federal investigators. Now let's see the Feds go after Clemens with the same intensity they did with Bonds. It's only fair.
If you are forced to give a deposition to federal investigators, you'd better tell the truth. F*&*** that "street cred" ***. Andy Pettitte was wise to tell the truth.
Now that Rat Jose Canseco whats 2 *** his mouth.
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Andy's a Sucker and a Mouse...
But that's a WHOLE LOT BETTER than being ONE of those "D-i-c-*** in the Booty A-S-S ... "