: NEW YORK (AP) — A bar worker at a popular Times Square karaoke club was arrested Thursday after confessing to beating a woman to death with a pipe on the club's roof during an argument, police said.

Syed Rahman, 24, admitted he smashed Ingrid Rivera over the head at about 2:45 a.m. Monday during a birthday party for rapper Lil' Kim that the victim had paid to attend, Police Commissioner Raymond Kelly said at a news conference. Her body was discovered Wednesday afternoon.

It was unclear what Rahman and Rivera, who had met for the first time inside Spotlight Live club that night, were arguing about. But a friend of Rivera pointed police to Rahman by telling them she had fought off his sexual advances on the roof shortly before the slaying, Kelly said.

Rahman — who had worked at the club for four years and had no previous criminal record — was arrested on a charge of second-degree murder, which carries a penalty of up to life in prison upon conviction.

Rahman kept his head down and said nothing when officers escorted him out of a police station. Authorities did not have the name of his lawyer.

The medical examiner ruled the death a homicide Thursday after an autopsy found that the 24-year-old Rivera died from a blow to the head.

Police said Rivera was a Lil' Kim fan who arrived at the party around 9:30 p.m. with a bouquet she had hoped to give to the rapper. During the evening, she and her friend spoke with Rahman while drinking at the bar.

At one point, Rivera was kicked out of the club for accidentally entering the men's rest room, police said. Rivera's friend said that around the same time, Rahman lured her to the roof by claiming Rivera was there.

When the friend rebuffed the suspect, he located the victim outside and "told her he could get her back in," Kelly said.

He took Rivera in through the employee entrance, then up to the roof in a service elevator, police said. Once there, he beat her inside a utility shed, killing her instantly, police said.

The man left the club at around 3 a.m., even though he was scheduled to work until 5 a.m., and went to Central Park and slept for a few hours, police said.

Police said that after Rivera's mother reported her missing on Tuesday, officers went to the club on Wednesday to review security videotape and do a floor-by-floor search of the five-story building. After they left, a repairman doing work at the club stumbled upon Rivera's body tucked away in the utility shed.

Officers found Rahman on Wednesday at an upper Manhattan apartment he shares with his parents.

A distraught Ingrid Estrada said Rivera, a customer service agent at John F. Kennedy International Airport for British Airways, was her only daughter whom she had raised as a single mother. She described her as "my life, my happiness."

Spotlight Live has become a popular tourist attraction by offering an "American Idol"-like experience. Guests perform with backup dancers and singers on a large stage, and the audience can vote for their favorite singers.

But it wasn't the first time the nightclub has seen trouble. In January, a 20-year-old Newark, N.J., man was stabbed to death after an argument inside spilled out onto the sidewalk and turned into a brawl. Five other men also were stabbed.

The club issued a statement expressing its condolences to the family of the victim.

"We are shocked by this terrible tragedy and our hearts go out to Ingrid Rivera's family and friends. We are grateful to the New York Police Department for arresting a suspect in this crime. We continue to cooperate with police and answer any questions they may have," the club said.

Lil' Kim's spokesman, Ronn Torossian, said in an e-mailed statement that Wednesday night was "the first (she) has heard of this matter." It's unclear which celebrities might have been at the club at the time of the killing.

It also was unclear whether Lil' Kim was at the party, said police, who did not know when the killing occurred. The rapper's spokesman did not respond to an e-mail asking whether Lil' Kim was there.

In July 2006, Lil' Kim got out of a federal detention center in Philadelphia after nearly 10 months behind bars for lying about a shootout outside a Manhattan hip-hop radio station. She was released early for good behavior.

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daddy_hoodrich

I am the first negro in here!


CMM-N-AJA

No place is safe anymore...bless us all.


DatBxChic

they can never have a party without having somebody *** or killed


nunu09

whats up people


DubR

*** that was fast she had only been in the closet for 3 days


Jade715

***, thats F**k up, while Kim was taking myspace pitures, someone was dying at her party...I know she feels bad. *Good they locked his insane a** up


TitanAthleticsInc

*** PEOPLE ARE CRAZY


Selector

Atleast they got him...smdh


iimtoofreshh

sad


jessb03

and that's why i stay at home...people are CRAZY!!! condolences to the family & friends of this young girl!


whatwhatwhat

Cute girl. Sad story


DivaTV_BayArea

Ingrid Rivera....Rest in Peace... now club bouncers are the new police!!

>>> see Diva TV in the bay area & at DSNmusic


retro_miss

Oh wow that's her? She don't even look 24. More like 16. Something bout this story ain't right. Very fishy. Why didn't her friends keep up with her?

But hmm. Seems like their trying to get Lil Kim mixed into it.


Blvd

*** that's sad rip ma

Check out the music! Check out the music! Check out the music! Check out the music!


Brew62

I hope he gets raped by AIDS inmates ***!!



MissMaiTai

This is very unfortunate, and I am praying for her family and friends. Ladies...This is a lesson. Do not get so intoxicated while you are clubbing, that you cannot accurately observe your surroundings. Someone is always watching you, and willing to make you the next victim. Take care of yourself.


NicNasty032

That's messed up. Why the hell are you going to kill a girl b/c she said "no"?


DISNIGHERE

THE PUNK INVOLVED IN THIS SITAUTION IS NOT A MAN. HOW CAN YOU BE THIS EXTREME B/C A FEMALE TELLS YOU, "NO"?


katattack

*** u can't even party in peace..What the hell????


FlacoSuede

Good thing they caught his azz. Sounds like it's not the first time he has done this. I wonder how many other women he has raped, but didn't come forward. Prayers for her family.


ItGyrl

***!


TreasureT

Why is this story so far down MTO?.....Condolences to the family


Treasure8430

*** SHE SHOULDV'E CALLED HER FRIENDS......ONCE SHE GOT KICKED OUT OF THE CLUB.......BUT WHO WOULD THINK THAT CRAZY MOFO WOULD DO THAT 2 HER AFTER GETTIN HER IN......YEA CAN'T TRUST NO1.....U HAVE 2 B VERY CAUTIOUS OF WHO U MEET IN CLUBS OR ANY PLACE 4 THAT MATTER.......VERY SAD......GLAD THEY FOUND HER THAT QUICK & HIS STUPID *** A$$....HE NEEDS 2 GET ***'D UP IN JAIL.


koko_kisses401

IDK about her friends. Where were they? Did she not have a cell phone to call them. Friends should never separate when hanging out and drinking. People may think that me and my girls are paranoid but the "girls nite" rule is if WE COME TOGETHER, WE LEAVE TOGETHER and WATCH each others back all nite. Ladies leave the "club friends" alone, if you don't have real friends to hang out with, STAY HOME.


TiffanyXposed

THIS is why I don't go to clubs because someone is always looking for trouble and ANYTHING can happen in a room FULL of STRANGERS. theres no place safer to enjoy a party than home.its the wisest choice and you'll know everyone there. why drink so much that you become disoriented and cant defend yourself? and where were her friends?when she got booted you mean to tell me that her so cal;led friends didn't leave with her? wow. some friends she had. may she rest in peace now.


koko_kisses401

Sorry, should have said this first..... my condolences to the family especially her Mom, RIP young lady.


outspokenone

My condolences to her family....on another note...maybe the bartender that it were the "Bride of Chucky's" party, because he looked wierd like "Chucky".


keeno2

In addition to all the above, what I want to know is WHY the brilliant nypd didn't think to look inside a shed, an obvious place to hide a body, and find her themselves??

Clubs are not fun anymore -- and eventually EVERYONE grows up and gets tired of going to them. Never thought I would get tired of the mess, but I did, and have no regrets...


Jamiejo86

THATS A DAYUM SHAME!


jaybaby

This is why I stopped giving negros the cold shoulder. Just give them a fake number and keep it moving. You never know when somebody will snap and set your *** on fire or something. SMDH...



GGGB

People are CRAZY! Men and Women alike, thats why I avoid arguments and fights because people are miserable and have nothing to live for!!!


BeBeJeans

THIS IS WHY WE WONDER WHY POLICE OFTEN GUARD ALL THE BLACK CLUBS AND NEVER THE WHITE ONES!!! COME ON BLACK FOLKS. CAN'T WE HAVE A GOOD TIME WITHOUT RESORTING TO VIOLENCE IF ***, STABBING, AND KILLING???? SMH. This is sad it makes no sense. I'm so glad my man doesn't allow me to go to clubs. I use to argue with him, but now I see it as love and looking out for me.


ilovemyblackpeople

*** this is crazy.


chelly04

Wait, is that the girl? She looks like she's 13. Anyway, why did her "friend" leave her obviously drunk friend alone w/a man? This story is so sad, my prayers go out to the fam.


AKeysWannabee

I read this on another site.. Sorry to hear that..


Rent214

*** I was JUST at Spotlight Live last month. That place is hot and I was looking forward to going back again. I can't believe someone who worked there did that.. Crazy people. and Lil Kim is *** up. She shouldve sent condolences to the family rather than just saying "it's the first i've heard of this matter". The girl was ONLY there cause she was a HUGE Lil Kim fan and she brought her flowers which she probably didnt even get to give to her personally. Show some respect Kim!


Rent214

BeBeJeans-

Next time you get an article and want to comment on it, TRY READING IT. It was an employee that killed her, so I dont see what the hell that has to do with the people partying in the club? Also, Spotlight Live is not a black club. It's a kareoke bar that turns into a club at like 11. Lil Kim just happened to have a party there... Get your facts straight before you make ignorant statements.


cutenkinky

I blame her trifling azz friends! All women know there is a cardinal rule when we go out and that is, WE STICK TOGETHER! Once she was kicked out, her friends should have been right there with her. In a previous report, I heard the young woman was kicked out of the club for being too drunk. I have never heard of any one being put out of a club for accidentally going into the wrong bathroom, especially since a lot of clubs have unisex bathrooms. I also heard that the perpetrator tried to rape the victim and beat her after she fought off his advances. Either way, I hope the mother finds a way to hold the club accountable. If the young woman was too drunk, the club should have called police to let her sleep it off and get her home safely. Instead, they choose to turn her out on the street like a dog and let her fall into the hands of a rapist!


DannyDan

at least he is caught and paying for what he has done


Rent214

And LMAO at the fact that your man "doesn't allow you to go to clubs" ..You have more of a chance of dying while riding in a car, which I'm sure you do numerous times a day.. Your man keeps you on lock because he can, not because he doesn't want you going to the club for your safety.


KingQuis19

Wow this is crazy. Who thought to look in the utility closet on the roof top. Very sad story


Rent214

I agree CuteNKinky.. If you stick with your group you'll be fine.. I was mad as hell once my friend's drunk *** got kicked out the club but me and my girls walked out right with her and the security guard. I wasn't about to leave her standing outside alone and *** WTF.


ItsOnIn08

RIP to her and i hope her mothers gets through this well

@ retro_miss i dont see where you are getting that impression. She was grown and y should her frineds keep up with her She was at the wrong place in the wrong time.

GOD BLESS HER


Swamianan

THE ONE THINK THATS HARD TO BELIEVE HERE IS THAT LIL KIM HAS A FAN ???????????????

RIP IN PEACE BOO


hearmenow

Why oh why can't no just mean no without someone acting a daymun fool.



Paige1492

That is very sad. Ladies always stick with your girls. That is rule #1, no matter what. Don't go to these types of things alone. People are really crazy out here, and we have to be aware.


Treasure8430

@ cutenkinky

NAW CLUBS WILL KICK U OUT IF UR DRUNK.......WELL THE CLUBS HERE IN NY DO...1 OF MY MALE FRIENDS GOT TWISTED IN A CLUB & WAS THROWIN UP AS A MATTER OF FACT IT WAS @ THE ROXY & THE GUARDS WERE TRYIN 2 PUT HIM OUT ON THE STREET INSTEAD OF JUST LETTIN HIM STAY & LET THE LIQUOR WARE OFF....THE ***'D UP THING ABOUT THAT IS HE DROVE THERE BY HIMSELF...AND ME & MY OTHER FRIEND DIDN'T HAVE LICENSES BACK THEN ONLY PERMITS......WE WERE BOTH UNDER 25 STILL R, AND WE HAD A FEW DRINKS OURSELVES......WE HAD 2 CALL SOME1 IN HIS PHONE 2 COME GET HOME.......I'VE SEEN IT DONE IN SOME OTHER CLUBS TOO. BUT SERIOUSLY THEY DON'T CARE......THEY WILL PUT U OUT THE CLUB @ THE OWNERS REQUEST.

@ TOPIC AS FOR HER FRIENDS YEA AS GIRLS UR REALLY SUPPOSE 2 STAY WIT EACH OTHER WHEN U GO OUT IN CASE *** POPS OFF......YALL DON'T ALL HAVE 2 DANCE 2GETHER IN A CIRCLE JUST DON'T SEPERATE & GO FAR AWAY....IN CASE *** BREAKS OUT U JUST DO THAT "1 CALL" AND THE CREW IS READY.....WHEN SHE GOT KICKED OUT HER FRIENDS WERE SUPPOSE 2 B GETTIN KICKED OUT OR LEAVIN AS WELL.....I KNOW I WOULDV'E MADE A BIG DEAL IF MY FRIEND WAS GETTIN KICKED OUT 4 SOME *** (BCUZ I WOULDV'E BEEN CLOSE BY 2 KNOW WTF IS GOIN ON)......AND I WOULDV'E GOT TOSSED OUT TOO......AND THEN WE WOULDV'E TOOKEN OUR ALIVE A$$ES HOME. HER FRIEND WAS PROBABLY UP IN SOME MAN'S FACE.....I BET SHE FEELS REALLY GOOD ABOUT HER *** SELF RIGHT ABOUT NOW.

CONDOLENCES 2 THE FAM BY THE WAY


CHRISSYSNOW

@BeBeJeans

Wow you're an idiot. Did you read the article and have you ever been to the club before? Now if I had written that I'd be called a racist. What's everybody gonna call you now. I guess just an IDIOT! Your man sounds like a control freak by the way is he latin?


Lexia

R.I.P to Ingrid...SMH @ this senseless act of violence...


PlainJane74

FIRST AND FOREMOST, WHY HASN'T ANYONE NOTICED THAT ALL THE GIRLS IN THIS PHOTO LOOK 16-18 YEARS OLD???? They look too young to be at the club with grown men and women anyway. Nine times out of ten they are underage, got gutter drunk and out of hand and the one girl got kicked out. Unfortunately for her a Drunk & Hott Girl predator was on the prowl and figured he had easy prey. He worked there people..........he knew what he was doing and who to do it to.

I do have some sympathy for this young lady's mother, however, young women and even some too *** old to be in the club women need to use more discretion when you're out clubbing. What is the point of getting ignorantly drunk and incoherent? It's not funny and it *** sure ain't lady like. How do you expect a man to take you seriously in the club when you can't even take care of yourself? This is a sad situation but some of these hott *** girls are asking for it.

@ BeBe Jeans: Your man sounds more like a soon to be violent, controlling Ike Turner clone. When you ALLOW a man to tell you what to do, where to do it and who to do it with/to it's called domestic abuse in the making. If you knew any better you would be packing them jeans and moving along. That's not love sweetie, sorry.


yellowberry

two things: one, he didn't rape her, two, never travel to places like that with some bird *** chicks. u go together, u leave together.spotlight live ALWAYS got security with strong armed tatics which are ridiculous.r.i.p.rivera.FU spotlight security!


2BLESSD2BSTRESSD

WE ARRIVE TOGETHER AND WE LEAVE TOGETHER...THAT HAS ALWAYS BEEN THE RULE!!!! AND DON'T LEAVE YOUR DRINK UNATTENDED!! I ECHO MISS MAITAI...SOMEONE IS ALWAYS WATCHING YOU, SO BE CAREFUL...DON'T LEAVE YOUR FRIENDS ALONE, ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY HAVE BEEN DRINKING. ALL IT TAKES IS A SPLIT SECOND TO GET GRABBED...


2BLESSD2BSTRESSD

@JAYBABY...BE CAREFUL GIVIN OUT THE FAKE NUMBERS, TOO. I HAD A FRIEND DO THAT, AND AS SOON AS SHE GAVE HIM THE FAKE NUMBER, HE USED HIS CELL PHONE TO SEE IF IT WAS THE RIGHT NUMBER...AND WHEN HE FOUND OUT IT WASN'T, HE WAS *** AND STARTED FLIPPIN OUT...FORTUNATELY, HE WAS DRUNK AND HIS BOYS GOT HIM OUT OF THERE. I THOUGHT HE WAS GONNA HIT HER.

LADIES, JUST BE CAREFUL...PEOPLE ARE CRAZY.


Nails

I can recall, back in the days, when I would go to the club if my girls and I went somewhere we stayed together; we never left with guys from the club. When I went to school on the east coast, I noticed how many females would let their friends leave the club with guys, get so drunk. Other races get so wasted. I remember driving by white clubs, people would be outside throwing up, walking down the street alone drunk,that's how stuff happens. That's why it is rare I go out, people today are crazy. R.I.P. Ingrid


Lexia

@yellowberry, they reported the girl missing...How were they supposed to know she was on the roof dead? For all they know, she could have left them...


MissDaniBaby

Wow. Was this creep from India? His name, "Syed Rahman" sounds Indian, Pakistani or some sh*t. Those mofos over there are KNOWN for killing/abusing women as it is. Anybody know what "upper Manhattan" looks like? Posh part of town right? Sounds like he could've been well off, yet this *** couldnt find nothing better to do than kill a young lady. SMDH

This *** needs to be strung up by his toenails and set on fire. Can't believe this sh*t. And her "friends" aint sh*t either. My condolescences to the family.

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TriniBarbie

this is crazy cause i be at spotlight every friday..


yellowberry

@ lexia....u come together, u leave together. u account for EVERYONE at the end of the ***.call her cell, if no answer, call her peoples.u come together u leave together. if u meet a friend u gonna leave with to pursue gettin it in, let ur girls know upfront.things like this will keep stuff like this from happening.u come together, u leave together, can't stress it enough!


yellowberry

hey lexia, nothin personal, but this girl should and would be alive todat if the right thing was done by EVERYONE.its a dam shame she was killed because of a lapse in responsibility


cutenkinky

MissDaniBaby - Syed Rahman doesn’t have to necessarily to the name of a man that is of Middle Eastern decent. It is really ignorant of you to say that men from that region of the world are known for killing and abusing women.

PlainJane74 - I look you for my age. Just because the young women look young doesn’t mean they are under age. The victim was 24!

I party in NYC often. Getting into a club in NYC isn’t like getting into a bar in Mississippi. You can not walk up with just any ID. Security is tight.

It is very ignorant to try to make it seem as if this young woman deserved what happened to her.

I still put part of the blame on her friends. They should have stuck together. I also think the club should be held accountable. Look at the Imette St. Guillen case (don’t know who she is, google her).



1hotfiremarshal

@BeBe Jeans

You sound real IGNUT!!! I wish a nicca would try to tell me where I can and cannot go! I don't know what to SMH at.... him being controlling or your ingut azz bragging about it!!! *** it! I'll SMH at both of 'em!


BADD3STBYTCH

WOW


PlainJane74

@cutenkinky Well that makes matters worse because at 24 they are TOO *** OLD to be at a club getting drunk off they square like that and I never blamed her for what happened to her but I do blame her and her girlfriend's lapse in judgement for what happened to her. I can't stand to see a drunk *** woman nowhere!!! It's not lady like and it draws unwanted and often times tragic attention. We all know there will be a few brothas at the club looking for the next victim........don't make yourself an obvious target!!! And yes, it can happen to a sober woman but the chances are much slimmer.


MissDaniBaby

@CuteNKinky<<<<<<< Chick, where ya GLASSES at? Before you come on here trying to check ME about my post(s) be sure to have your facts straight. Ya dig?

FIRST OF ALL, I did not say that dude WAS Indian or Pakistani, I said the name SOUNDED akin to similiar names from that area of the world.

SECOND OF ALL, it is no secret that women in India and in "several" other middle eastern countries/cultures do NOT value "women's rights". A simple search in Wikipedia, a newspaper, the History Channel, or EVEN SCHOOL would show you that much. Of course, that does not mean that EVERY man in those areas abuse their women, but way too many of them do.

AND THIRDLY, if you had opened your brain and had knowledge of any global-news what-so-ever, you'd be aware of the fact that scores of Indian women have had BATTERY ACID thrown in their faces due to rebuffing the advances of a male she was not interested in dating. These women are forced to live with HORRIBLE scars and DEFORMED faces because they told some dude "no".

AND FOURTHLY, In MANY middle eastern cultures women can be STONED TO DEATH (that's right dumb azz) for simply being raped because it is believed to bring shame on their families. In several Indian areas "female FETUSES" are aborted because their is a strong bias and preference for MALE children.

By no means are ALL dudes from these areas rapists and murderers...I NEVER said that. But I was simply bringing up the fact that women have much fewer rights in these cultures and IF BY CHANCE the idiot that killed this poor young woman had lived in one of these areas previously, it may explain where he got his mindset from.

Anyway, you got some nerve calling someone ignorant when your *** azz don't even know how to READ. Pick up a book, TRICK, before you step this way.


BleepThis

May her soul rest in peace.

May God have mercy on his soul.

God loves everybody...he created them!!!


Goldi

@BeBeJeans- Sweetheart that's crazy that you allow your "man" to tell what to do on any level. I have been there and done that and ended being scared to breathe wrong for fear of fighting for my life. You have to live for you and be your own woman life is going to happen with you or around you. To Ingrid R.I.P Babygirl 3 days is too long to be in a shed but at least you were found. To all of the people who are blaming the friends that is ***. You can not place all of the blame on them you don't know the situation to place blame on anyone other than the perp.You don't know if her friends looked for her or even if she had a cell phone. I go out not really to clubs but lounges and things of that nature and my friends will walk off in a heartbeat and you may not have even realized that they are gone. I went out about 3 weeks ago with a close friend and I said "I'm going to the bar to get a drink" she said "ok" and when I got back to the table she was gone. I assumed she went to the bathroom after about 10 mins I got worried, her *** was around the corner talking on her cell phone to her girlfriend, but anything could have happened and I would not have known which is not my fault. Some things are not in your control. Yes, her friends should have left with her but you don't no why they didn't. You can only speculate and with out proof stop blaming people.Hell, they could have been just as drunk as she was.


liddymo

Ya'll need to leave bebe_jeans alone. This is why half ya'll don't have a man now, you haven't learned to SUBMIT. Her man could very well be looking out for her safety and I appreciate the fact that she can take it like that. When was the last time your man said no to something that was in your best interest?


ladylove28

DAMMMNNNNNNNNNNN that's *** up these men out here are crazy, you can even tell a man that I don't want to have *** with you anymore, because they might kill you!!!!!!!!!!


MissDaniBaby

From CBS NEWS (August 16, 2007)

Trapped by abuse, the long struggle for women's rights:

Last Saturday, in the heart of India's south New Delhi, two men poured acid and gasoline on Tarveen Suri, 36, then set her on fire. They burned 80 per cent of her body. Police are investigating what they call a "strained" relationship with her husband.

Suri is just one of thousands of Indian women attacked yearly as a result of domestic violence. A UNICEF report in 2000 stated 45 per cent of married men in the Indian state of Uttar Pradesh acknowledged physically abusing their wives during marriage.

That same report states that 5,000 women are killed by their husbands and in-laws each year in "accidental" kitchen fires. Other killings take the form of acid attacks and honour killings. Yet other atrocious behaviour plaguing some Indian women includes bride burning, female infanticide, eviction of widows and murders over dowry issues.

Prominent Indian lawyer and activist Indira Jaising said earlier this year in an interview that domestic violence is so pervasive in Indian society that it's difficult to talk about other issues, such as education or employment for women, when many are so trapped by abuse.

From The National Pakistan: Land, gold, women Jaising and women's groups in India have been instrumental in forcing the government to pass the Protection of Women from Domestic Violence Act, which became law two years ago. While it protects women from violence, the country still has no law against marital rape.

Old traditions die hard Abuse of south Asian women isn't just confined to India and Pakistan. When immigrants seek a new life in Canada, sometimes the old traditions die hard. In the past year, several B.C. women of Indo-Canadian descent have died as a result of domestic violence. They include Manjit Panghali, a young mother whose body was found burned in October by a roadside in Delta. Her husband, Mukhtiar Panghali, was charged in connection with her death. That same month, Navreet Kaur Waraich, the mother of a four-month-old boy, was stabbed to death in Surrey. Her husband, Jatinder, has been charged. Gurjeet Kaur Ghuman was blinded after being *** in the face by her husband, who then killed himself. Sadeqa Siddiqui, co-ordinator of Montreal's South Asian Community Women's Centre, says, "The problem is that women are considered second-class citizens. This is a male society — men are ruling."

Although this type of violence doesn't apply to the vast majority of Indo-Canadian families, the problem is worrisome enough that there have been large public forums to address the issue in British Columbia.

Abused at conception Baljinder Narang, a spokesperson for the We Can End All Violence Against Women, B.C. Campaign, formed in June, agrees. "It's deep-rooted. Women are abused at the point of conception. Their fetuses are aborted if it's discovered they're female.

"When they're born, the father of the bride is already worrying about the dowry. He thinks if he kills her before she's born, he won't have to provide a dowry for her."

Narang says many young boys grow up with violence in the home and end up repeating it with their own wives. Educating them to change their behaviour is important. Men must be told that their attitudes need to *** and that it's a human rights issue, she says. As well, Narang says women need to be taught they're not objects of abuse just because they've seen their mothers and grandmothers in that situation.

Earlier this year, B.C.'s attorney general, Wally Oppal , angered some members of the Indian community when he spoke out about the violence. He called it a "cancer" in the province's Indo-Canadian community.

Some of his fellow Indo Canadians implied he was a traitor to his ethnicity and culture. His reply was, "Saving face is too important in our community to admit there's a problem, but it's obvious."

Siddiqui says many women are afraid to complain. "Once you come out in society and complain about sexual harassment or abuse, police and the neighbours see you differently. You're not a victim, but they will victimize you more."

However, she says South Asian women must speak out if they're experiencing violence.

"Women are suffering in isolation. It's not because the police aren't doing anything, but because their society is isolating them. We always try to show how happy we are at home. I think all women are suffering the same degree of abuse.

"Society needs to know that it was happening 100 years ago, but in the 21st century we are not going to take it. Abuse is abuse."

Right now, both women are working to educate those in the Indian community, but they are taking it slowly and carefully. For instance, Siddiqui is teaching small groups of women about violence using a theatre setting. Narang is teaching people to try to change attitudes about violence with five other people they know.

She explains, "We know things won't change ***, and we might lose other women in the process, but the target audience is people bringing up young kids. They need to create an environment where there is no violence."

LINK: http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/india/women.html


MissDaniBaby

Correction: From CBC News (Canadian Broadcasting Corporation), not "CBS". You can view the article on their website at the link posted above.

Peace~


Lexia

@yellowberry, I see and understand what you're saying if you're saying that when the girl was kicked out, if everyone in her party would've left then...

But I don't agree with blaming them because adults are responsible for themselves...If they knew she was being attacked or harrassed or something, then that is totally different...

We don't know all the details and there are sometimes and in some cases where you might have one party acting up and doing something foul...And why allow that person to spoil your *** and waste your money? I'm sure they didn't think in a million years she would wind upon a roof dead...

I remember years back me and a cousin and HER friends went out and there were some NFL players there...One of her friends was under 21...She hooked up with the NFL player and they went into the VIP area somewhere and he bought her drinks and everything...He tried to buy me some but I wouldn't accept, eventhough I was old enough...Anyway, the club manager did an ID check and found she was under 21 and told her she had to put the drinks down and come out of the VIP room...She got to cursing and acting a darn fool...she threatened to *** up the place(I had no idea about this girl) and so she got kicked out of the club...

I'm sorry but we let her *** sit out in the cold car that *** until we got done...No one told her to threaten the club manager and act a fool... I'm not responsible for no other grown person's actions...

But I do agree with you to a certain extent...


BeBeJeans

@Rent214- Well that's my opinion.


BeBeJeans

My man loves me and I respect him. So if he doesn't want me to go clubbing, I won't go. period.


lady_jo

so sad


retro_miss

ItsOnIn08

@ retro_miss i dont see where you are getting that impression. She was grown and y should her frineds keep up with her She was at the wrong place in the wrong time.

GOD BLESS HER

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From the looks of the photo, those are her girls. She could have came with them to the club...or met up with them @ the club. Whatever the case...they, BEING HER FIRENDS, should at least kept up with her and should be concerned about her well being. Especially since she was drunk. Not saying they had to stay with her the whole entire time [while they were partying]....but if it were me...and especially if my home girl was drunk...I'd wanna know if she was safe and I'd make sure she was ok.

You can't te'll me that if you went out with you're girls...you wouldn't be concerned about their well being at least a little?

I think people, especially young females, just need to be aware of their surroundings. Don't slip. Just when you think you're not being watched you generally are. Be cautious of the people around you and the places you go to.



1hotfiremarshal

@ missdanibaby

THANK YOU FOR THE ARTICLE!!! Self Esteem ladies! Self esteem!


retro_miss

But it does say one of her friends was told the victim was up on the roof by the suspect and she went up there to find out the girl wasn't there. So she actually did try to keep up with her. Seems she could have been killed also. I think the actions they took to keep up with each other just failed. Whatever the case, my blessings out to her family.


Crossnation

Sad story, young lady gone from this earth, That dude is so weak....R.I.P

"I gave you power~I made you buck wild"


MissDaniBaby

@1HotFireMarshall<<<<< You are quite welcome! Just trying to share knowledge with the masses! (and those who WANT to learn, ya feel me?) lol!


TDH40

That is so sad about the victim, but how was this Lil Kim's Birthday party and don't know whether or not she was there.


TROOPER

@ BeBeJeans Flag post THIS IS WHY WE WONDER WHY POLICE OFTEN GUARD ALL THE BLACK CLUBS AND NEVER THE WHITE ONES!!! COME ON BLACK FOLKS. CAN'T WE HAVE A GOOD TIME WITHOUT RESORTING TO VIOLENCE IF ***, STABBING, AND KILLING???? SMH. This is sad it makes no sense. I'm so glad my man doesn't allow me to go to clubs. I use to argue with him, but now I see it as love and looking out for me. ---------------- THIS HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH BLACK CLUBS SO GET YO SELF HATING HEAD OUT YO ***. AND BY LOOKING AT THE NAME IT SOUND LIKE THE GUY ISN'T BLACK THAT KILLED HER. I MEAN IT'S GOOD U DON'T GO CLUBING ALL THE TIME AND YES YOUR MAN IS DOING THAT CUZ NOT ONLY PROTECTING YOU BUT HE MAY ALSO JUST DON'T WANT KNOW MAN LOOKIN OR TALKIN TO WHAT HE HAS AT HOME. BUT WHO CARES ABOUT THAT PART IT WAS JUST *** UP TO PUT BLACK CLUBS IN ONE BUNCH.U MUST HAVEN'T SEEN THE LIVE TAPES OF CLUB FIGHTS AND ALMOST THE WHOLE DVD IS WHITE PPL FIGHTIN AND *** AT CLUBS SO BEFORE U POINT THE FINGER AT YOURSELF KNOW SOME FACTS. (YEA YOSELF CUZ U BLACK.)


TROOPER

IT'S JUST A BAD CASE OF WRONG PLACE AT WRONG TIME. R.I.P TO ***. I USE TO WORK FOR A CAR COMPANY YEARS AGO AND THEY HAD A OUTTING THAT I DIDN'T GO TO CUZ I DON'T DRINK LIKE THAT AND IT WAS JUST A BUNCH OF WHITES. THE YOUNG WHITE GUY DRUNK A LOT AND THEY TRIED TO KEEP UP WITH HIM AND TOLD HIM TO WAIT FOR SOMEONE TO TAKE HIM HOME AND HE WENT TO THE RESTROOM AND NEVA CAME BACK. THAT *** AT HOME I SAW THAT IT WAS A FATAL ACCIDENT AND THE CAR WAS TORN AND SMASHED. GUESS WHAT???? IT WAS HIM, HE LEFT THE RESTROOM AND LEFT WITHOUT THEM KNOWING AND DROVE HIS CAR FOR MILES UP THE WRONG SIDE OF THE HIGHWAY AND WENT HEAD ON SPEEDING WITH ANOTHER VEHICLE. SO TO PPL SAYING HER FRIENDS SHOULD HAVE KEPT UP WITH HER SOMETIMES U CAN'T. BUT I DO BELIEVE IF THEY WERE HER REAL FRIENDS THEN IF THEY WERE PUTTING HER OUT CUZ SHE HAD TOO MUCH TO DRINK THEN THEY SHOULD HAVE LEFT WITH HER.


MISSMONROE

*** IS CRAZY. ITS REAL OUT HERE MAN


Hi

WHO WOULD THINK THAT ENTERING A *** CLUB WOULD BE THEIR LAST *** OF LIFE????????


EffDat

Well i believe her friends should have stuck by her! that girl was *** drunk and in no situation to be by herself. If she got kicked out herr friends should have went out there with her at least to see if she was okay or to see her somewhere safe. they left her hangin. thats just how *** are. thats why i dont *** with *** like that


EffDat

BeBeJeans wtf are you talking about? A BLACK MAN DIDNT EVEN KILL THE GIRL! IDIOT. he was some kinda sand nygga


EffDat

TriniBarbie you just told the killer where you find you every friday ***. GOOD JOB!


EffDat

PlaneJane how is 24 too old to be at the club getting drunk? Whhat age were they supposed to be doing that? 15? Get real! 24 is the age where you go out and party..when you start pushing 30 thats when you slow down on that but its still alright to go out once in a while but when youre 28-30s you should be old enough to know how to act in a club and not be falling all over the place drunk and stupid


EffDat

liddymo i bet your man slaps you around and punches you every *** while you "submit" and you say AWW ITS MY FAULT! HE LOVES ME THATS WHY HE HITS ME! YOURE AN IDIOT! You and BeBeJeans should hang out together. Sneak out to the club and wait for your man to come whoop yo azz for disobeying him *SMH*


EffDat

and btw BeBeJeans dont be blaming black folks for all those club killings cuz everybody knows the main killer of girls is white folks. theyre the ones in the club drugging your drink. You wake up dead buried in their backyard. Your bones made into furniture. Shuddup



msmochachina

I guess I won't be going to the club *** after all....


ThickAndCreamy1

this is so sad


liddymo

@ EffDat if you read your bible you would know that is not what submit means. Too bad you just don't understand that if you have made the right choice in a partner, you can respect his decisions, as they are in your best interest. I don't have to respond too your unsolicited rhetoric and assumptions about what happens to me. Your fear and need to maintain power over a man is obvious.


iamhere2letUhaveit

...BELOVED, NEVER AVENGE YOURSELVES, BUT LEAVE IT TO THE WRATH OF GOD,

"VENGENCE IS MINE, I SHALL REPAY, SAYS THE LORD"

...ROMANS 12:19