: This is SOME MESS!!! But before we go any further, MediaTakeOut.com has to say that we're not sure that we believe Faith Evans. She has had some problems with drugs in the past, etc - so who knows.
Now with that said, Faith is talking some stuff in her new book. You know that she's probably telling the story that makes her look 100% innocent and Pac look 100% guilty but - it is what it is.
And what it is - IS JUICY!!! Here's an excerpt:
"You know, I love New York," [Tupac] said. "But I'm not f*cking with New York right now."Oh my!!The air in the room seemed to get really thick all of a sudden. His demeanor had changed so quickly that I was truly afraid.
"Really?" I asked. "Why is that!"
"'Cause n*ggas set me up that night. You know that right!"
I swallowed hard and took a deep breath. He was staring at me like he thought I was the one who set him up.
"You don't really believe that bullsh*I," I said.
"I'm telling you ... n*ggas set me up," he said in a low voice.
"Look, Pac. I just need to get my check and then I have to go ..."
"The situation with the money is like this," he said. "If I give it to you, then you my b*tch."
I got up and moved father away from where he was standing.
"I'm not anybody's b*tch," I said, trying to keep my voice even and steady.
"You Biggie's bitch."
I thought about how people always got sh*t wrong. He was probably thinking about the song "Me & My B*tch." And I wasn't with Big when he made that record.
"I'm his wife."
"I though y'all broke up?" he asked
"We still married."
"Whatever."
"Look," I said. "You hired me to do a song, I did it. I want my money and that's it."
"Oh word, it's like that? You just want your money?"
"You told me it wouldn't be a problem," I said. "The only reason I came up here is because you said ..."
"So you not trying to suck my d*ck?"
"What!" I screamed. "What are you talking about!"
Tupac raised his voice. "You know you want to suck my d*ck, b*tch! Don't f*cking lie." I burst into tears and grabbed my phone. "I have to get out of here."
Tupac kept going. He was making no sense, cursing and yelling. He said something about Big and the East Coast.
"But ... but ... I thought y'all was friends," I said. At this point, I could barely speak clearly because I was crying so hard.
"Whatever. You know you wanna be my b*tch," he said, before going into the bedroom area and slamming the door.
As soon as I got my things together to leave, Tupac came back to the common area.
"Where the f*ck are you going!" he asked.
"I don't know what you thought," I said. "I really don't. But it's not like that."
Tupac nodded slowly, staring at me intently. He wasn't ranting or screaming anymore. But he had this very sinister smile on his face. I kept looking around the room because I felt like something was about to happen to me. I wasn't sure if these guys were coming back or what. But something was wrong.
"It's not like that?" he kept saying over and over again and nodding. "Well ai-ight then, f*cking b*tch. You want to leave! Tell the driver to take you home. The limo is still out there. Get the f*ck out.."
This sounds like Tupac. In his latter years he appeared to be having a nervous break down.
BUT.. I think she leaving out some parts. AND I STILL believe she went there to get back at Biggie & now two of the greatest rappers to ever bless the mic are dead!
Simple *** STILL get's no love from me!
NO MATTER WHAT YOU SAY OR HOW YOU SAY IT.. YOU'LL ALWAYS BE THAT WHORISH *** THAT BETRAYED THE EAST!!! Even IF it's not true...
yeah i used to write choppy, lame and corny like this when i was about 12. this doesn't flow and is a blatant lie! some dude recently said (ray j or bobby brown's kid or somebody) that they used to see or once saw Faith sitting on Tupac's lap in the studio.
So anyway, sue me Faith, but I think you have something to do with both their deaths. They both dissed you around that time, and I know how vindictive Jamaican women are! LOL If it wasn't you, it might be C-Face. Since they died, he been the so-called 'best'. hmmmm...
Im tired of these females writing these books. On top of that she know she *** him. They need to find rayj and ask him bout that cause in another post a couple months ago he remember saying he used to see faith sitting on tupac lap. She probably *** pac to get on them records and he exposed her for the hoe she was.
I just finished reading the book and I must say it was pretty good and I know that it was hard for her to put herself out there like that but when I got to this part about her and Pac, I just didnt understand why on God's Green Earth would you be with a man that you know has beef with your husband. Come on, she played herself, and then she also went on to say that she did not know that Pac and Suge *** were tight like that. But read the book, it will give you an insight on what she has been through.
If you knew Pac, even just a lil' bit, even just on some minor business stuff raise your hand. Oh I see I am the only one here with my hand up.
Y'all really didn't know that man. People kill me who hear some music and think they KNOW a brother. I actually was around him on several occaisions (more than probably anyone else here) and I won't claim to KNOW him. He was waaaaaayyy more complicated than that.
I won't speak ill of him because he was cool with me or I was cool with him (however you want to put it), but he was good for saying and doing some CRAZY, CRAZY ish, and this doesn't surprise me one bit if it is true. I saw and heard it with my own eyes (not the Faith incident, but other stuff).
He was mad talented and brilliant, but a saint who wouldn't come out of pocket on some crazy beef Pac was not. Dude had issues and everyone knows it. I'm not saying Faith isn't lying or is being truthful or is an angel because I never met her. But I did hang with Pac on more than one occaision and you never knew what you were going to get. NEVER.
That's real talk. If you know who I am (international best-selling author, ya heard), you know how I do. I'm brutally honest and so not the cyber gangster hiding behind a keyboard like most posters. (Come out and meet me on tour, LOL) And before anyone claims my relationship with Pac was that of a jump off or groupie or whatever know this: you gotta be at least 6'2" for me to ride the ride. He was not. And if he had hit it (or if I'd gone down below), I'd be the first to admit it. Hell, I'd have written a book about it.
Now people, stop being so judgemental about people you don't even know. Even if she DID have *** in exchange for doing a song (which I don't believe), some of you judging do that to get your light bill paid. And some of you couldn't give it away to a homeless man or woman which is why you don't show yourselves and you hide behind screen names and icons.
Seeing as though it's common knowledge that she got down the same way Big did, I'm inclined to believe she's lying. "If Faith had twins, she'd probably have 2 Pac's. Get it? Tupac's". Her own husband said this on a song about her! When your husband, the man you "allegedly" cheated with, and NUMEROUS OTHERS in the game say you did, no one will believe you when you say you didn't. Sorry, Faith!
is she insinuating that she did NOT sleep with him? She was already Big's wife so it is not like she needed or was hurting for money like that. Also, she could have gone through his accountant or some *** to get paid. Why is she up in his hotel room? that industry hoe needs to *** up. WHOMP WHOMP!!!
First of all, I AM SO SICK OF YOU *** TUPAC *** RYDERS!!!!!!!!! GET OFF HIS NUTS!!! He was no different than any other grimmy a$$ *** out here. I believe what she said went down, actually did... NOW... ALSO** I believe she probably did suck him off too. That part she forgot to include. None the less... I am trying to understand where yall dumb a$$ broads on here actually believe that Tupac respected women?? HE NEVER DID!!! They were all B!TCHES to him!!!!!!! They all did him a favor.... mostly sexual. Thats it. So, yall are defending a womanizer!!! YEAH, Aiight, he made some dope lyrics... Does that put him on a pedestal to be worshiped as a "Hip Hop Saint"?! F^CK NO!!!!
Yall are such dyck ryders on here.. over people who make money off the money YOU spend on THEM!!! They could give 2 f^cks less about you!!
You may not like what I am sayin.. but I am speakin the truth!! OWN IT!
Now people, stop being so judgemental about people you don't even know. Even if she DID have *** in exchange for doing a song (which I don't believe), some of you judging do that to get your light bill paid. And some of you couldn't give it away to a homeless man or woman which is why you don't show yourselves and you hide behind screen names and icons.
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Yeah right!!!That dont even sound like something Pac would say...Dont believe this ***!!Listen to Pacs music, is he on that level.HELL NAW!! And anyway Faith start that *** now, when he is not here if he was here it would be a totally different story yeah he would say *** you telling a *** lie..She know she wanted him..*** she wanted Big!..Luv me some TUPAC!!
Please MTO is defaming another black person once again. Pac never *** her. She was hired to do a song. He thought she was gonna be easy cause her and BIG were having problems. Faith is very intelligent. She did not have to *** him. She never came off as a groupie like Kim, and Charlie Baltimore, she was his wife. She is probly tired of being asked about the Pac situation, her story has never changed on this subject. Ray J is probly lying. His credibility is what? He was all of 12 when this happend and Brandy was not making no music with either PAc or Big at the time. Im so tired of you people just talking smack about people who you dont know. I believe Faith. After Pac got *** in Ny he was a maniac, he lost all direction, the brenda's got a baby Pac was dead, in comes the super thug, he never got out of character from Juice, he thought he was bishop for real. I believe that he woudl have been rude and expected her to jump into bed with him, just because. This is from a man who let a women suck him off in a club. You can not be serious, with this Faith is lying stuff. Get it right, she was never a coke head, that is Mary's claim to fame. MTO please take some journalism classes.
WOWWW FAITH!!!...SORRY GIRL NO1'S BUYING UR STORY HUNN!!...SEEMS ALIL SKETCHY 2 ME!!..U PROBLY REALLY DID FCK HIM!..IT'S OK..I WOULD OF FCK THE *** OUTTA 2PAC 2!!!!(lol)...NAW BUT ON SUM REALNESS,IT SEEMS LIKE A DID SOMETHING THAT U LATER REGRETED DO U KNOW THE HOLLYWOOD CODE!!..AS LONG AS OIT AINT ON TAPE DENY!..DENY!..DENY!!!...& THE LATE PAC IS NOT HERE 2 BUT ALL UR *** ON BLAST SO U WILL CONTINUE 2 TRY 2 TUCK THE TRUTH IN WITH THAT COVER UP!!!...PUT A *** SONG OUT!!..MAKE AN ALBUM..STOP TRYNA WRITE BOOKS & ***...1/2 UR FANS CANT EVEN READ!!!(lol)
I AM feeling the "why didn't she ask him to mail the check" comments. Maybe the music industry is different, but my agent mails me my checks. I wish I would have had to ask 50Cent for my check. I just would have never gotten paid cuz I wouldn't have done it. LOL.
Aspiring entertainers, get a good agent (not your cousin unless your cousin is a lawyer) and sign a CONTRACT. Don't believe ANYBODY's word. Handle your business like a professional and not like some fool on the chitlin' circuit. Ain't no honor amongst theives, or hustlers, or gangsters or thugs. If this did happen as Faith describes you gotta wonder, where the hell was her agent/manager?
Oh yeah, my latest work, Whip Appeal is in stores now. Shameless promo.
I have worked in the industry for about 13 years now. And until you have seen *** up close and personal, you would never Overstand how disrespectful these Dudes are to women. Faith was no angel, and I don't think she's trying to portray herself as such. 'Pac was a genius, but still had issues and demons. Hell, everybody does.
"It's not like that?" he kept saying over and over again and nodding. "Well ai-ight then, f*cking b*tch. You want to leave! Tell the driver to take you home. The limo is still out there. Get the f*ck out.."
This whole *** sound like she's trying to write a Soap... She sound corny a$$ h3ll...
But overall Pac treated her A$$ And she just confirmed the fact that she was his bust it bytch after denying it for YEARS!!!
@ bklynbandette
You are so right. Folks just don't know. They watch too many videos and think that's the way the industry goes. Sheep being led astray.
On another note, can all the entertainers writing books please just stop. For real. Let the professionals do it. You don't see me out here singing and rapping. Hey wait!
F**k it! Since they all wanna do my job I'm gonna start doing theirs. LOL. Catch my album in stores in 2009 entitled "I can't really sing that well but I'm a drop a record since all the singers want to write".
@ Cocokandy...Preach!!! Tupac at that time was VERY disrespectful to women. I believe the story but Faith is leaving out the fact that she had oral *** with him for the song and to get paid. She was broke back then and she wasn't rich on Bad Boy. I don't think they had this on going relationship, because Tupac didn't want to be with anyone back then, he was just banging every broad he wanted to...every his mother will tell you that. Tupac made positive music about women when he was broke. As soon as he got money...he became a thug and a womanizer. Tupac was a hypocrite...he was a poet but he had two personality. All you Tupac fans didn't like tupac when he was singing about "Brenda's got a baby." Keep it real...
YEA RIGHT AIN'T NO WOMAN IS THAT NAIVE......FAITH WAS WRONG & SHE KNOWS IT AND NOW SHE'S LYIN ABOUT *** CUZ NO1 CAN SAY NUTTIN.......BIGGIE'S DEAD & TUPAC........IS SUPPOSEDLY DEAD. SHE WAS TRYIN 2 GET EVEN WIT BIG 4 PLAYIN HER. SHE KNEW WHO WAS ***'*** AROUND WIT LIL KIM & CHARLIE BALTIMORE & WHOEVA ELSE & SHE WAS MAD........HE BASICALLY SLANDERED HER........SO SHE DECIDED 2 DO A SONG 4 TUPAC & ***'D HIM.........SOME WOMEN NEED 2 LEARN REAL QUICK THAT U CAN'T ALWAYS DO WAT A MAN DOES.........LIKE SLEEPIN WIT THE NEXT DUDE 2 MAKE UR MAN MAD...........JUST CUZ HE SLEPT WIT THE NEXT CHICK ON U........U WILL B LABELED A B!TCH, ***, *** & EVRYTHING UNDER THE MOON........WHILE HE'S STILL CALLED "THE MAN" AND "MR SO & SO".....WOMEN CAN'T *** THEMSELVES LIKE MEN DO.
IDK about this ***! For one if Biggie was my husband, the first thing I'm screaming is my man gone fck you up if you don't give me my money. Why is she going to his house to pick up her money anyway. Why wasn't her manager taking care of this? Why wasn't the check sent to her via messenger, fedexed or wired to her account? You scared of Pac when you fcking Biggie?????? Then neither can defend themselves? Nah I love her music but i don't believe this one.
i can't take sides i dont kno if her story iz true *** pac is not here 2 defend himself but i do kno how *** r pac said thats y i *** yo *** but we all kno how *** lie i can believe that pac waz jus tryna use her to get back at biggie cuz dats how *** can be jus like how the game b bein disrepectful to ciara cuz of 50 i luv pac *** all R.I.P but men can be childish
WHAT do you mean? did't you see the news when the man left the hospital after *** *** like 5 times. OF course the mans going to be HOT, *** right livid. BYTCH THAT WAS HIS LIVE and somebody tried to take it away and you don't expect him to trip at all. That was ignorant your part!!! This gets a big fat **BYTCH PLEASE**
Come on, Faith. If I give you the benefit of the doubt (i.e. believe you didn't sleep with him) you were a GORGEOUS woman who married Big mere weeks after meeting him. It wasn't too hard to tell that you were a gold digger. He knew that and YOU KNOW THAT. Now, of course, after he got soooo big (no pun intended) that he was then able to have any woman he wanted, you began to pale in comparison to potential fu** buddies and sure you might have had genuine feelings then (probably, at bottom, anger or competition moreso than love...but whatever...) but you know and TUPAC KNEW you were a gold digger. Just as Charlie Baltimore was. Now, if on the other hand I believe that you DID sleep with him because there's very little reason why someone who was married to a SUCCESSFUL RAPPER/STAR would need to do a song with Tupac, her SUCCESSFUL HUSBAND'S ENEMY...there just isn't. It seems that you either really wanted to have *** with Tupac (who didn't!) OR you felt jilted because Big had begun to sleep around with better looking gold diggers. Either way, you're obviously the weird one in this situation. Because it is YOU who are writing about a dead man...no, DEAD MEN...more than a DECADE after they died in order to do/prove what? Are you getting ahead of the film? Are you trying to get what you can out of your dead ex's life story? And, in your estimation, is that inconsistent with what everybody always believed you were - A GOLD DIGGER???!??!!!!
This crackhead b!tch got my blood boiling early this morning. I guess Pac made you sit on his d!ck and take pictures too huh? I used to like and have respesct for you but you are one lying, scandalous hoe. I have more respect for hoes that can admit they a hoe and are proud to be a hoe. Your filthy, dirty, junkie a$$ need to get the f^ck from out of da crackhouse and put down the crackpipe cause you are delusional as a mofo b!tch.
Dang MTO...how ya'll gon have typos when all you're doing is copying word for word? Uggh....I can't stand it anymore!
Anyway, Faith lying...that ain't HARDLY how it happened. I got the real scoop...like to hear it, here it go...
~scene opens with "How Do You Want It" bumping in the background.
*2Pac calling Faith on the phone*- Ay yo Faith, why don't you come over.
Faith- Why don't you come to NY?
2Pac- Nah...I ain't effin with NY...they tryna set me up.
Faith- Aigghttt....I'm on my way
*5 minutes later, Faith arrives...high as a kite*
2Pac- B*!ch, bring your azz in here and give me some.
Faith- "I'm not anybody's b*tch,"
2Pac- "So you not trying to suck my d*ck?"
*Faith thinking about it....* *5 minutes later... she swallows hard, took a deep breath and wipes her mouth*
Faith- Now where's my money...
2Pac- "Oh word, it's like that? You just want your money?"
*Pac pulls a stack out and throws it at Faith as she scrambles to pick it up*
Faith- "You so ignorant and disrespectful. I have to get out of here."
Pac- "Well ai-ight then, f*cking b*tch. You want to leave! Tell the driver to take you home. The limo is still out there. Get the f*ck out.." Oh, and tell Biggie I said I'll get at 'em.
~End Scene~
Now THAT'S what happened. I ain't lying! :-)
***, can yall slow the F##$% down! LOL @Plain u caught that quote thing so quick.... Meta you are fool and everyone actin like they ready to fight Faith cause Tupac is their cousin or something, SIT UR AZZES DOWN! The man probably did say it and Faith just didn't add the part.. as she was leaving tripped on the carpet, hit her head on the doorknob and woke up with Pac's joint in her mouth!
this *** is a liar first of all when you do a song wit someone they are not in charge of paying you... second of all why who would you meet that person in a hotel room...third of all why would you say you thought pac and big were friends when you knew they werent cool anymore...fourth you said you cheated on big with two other guys so why not pac...and last why would wait until after their both dead to say this and neither one of them can defend themselvs
Ya'll sound very stupid claiming you used to chil with him. You probably did but nobody in heres believes your ***!!!! I believe he di hit it but that's my opinion, and if he didn't then oh well but the *** is dumb enough to go make a track with the enemy, especially if big was her husband. Even if she was having issues with big, there has to be some sort of respect level towars her husband for her not to go there. She a dumb hoe and she knows it. Now, we have another dumb *** claiming he whooped pacs *** in 93, *** no name a dumb picture. *** you a ***, *** bough his first mobb deep album and thinks he's tough.
Boston in this Biatch!!! aka title town biatch
OHHHHH NO Faith, such a high yellow heifer! I don’t believe this sh**, you mean to tell me this is how 2Pac was talking to her and all you can say was oh no I’m not here for that! So if this took place why didn’t she say something to Biggie or about this then? Why did 2Pac bring it up in a song, if she was right and he tried her! GET THE F**K OUT OF HERE!!!! This B***h is a simple B*****, now that the man is deceased, you want to write a book now running your mouth all twisted! See if you know like I know, look at Biggie and Pac, if I was Faith I would’ve let Pac hit it every time he wanted and Biggie I would have ranned the other way!
She just wants to boost her lame *** book, Faith you’re a has-been, and always will be! So don’t come twisted out your mouth about Pac, when he came at you then you shoulda said something then, you scandalous ***!
I guess we suppose to believe this chick. Why now are you saying what happened? You should have been up at arms on this when "Hit em Up" was out, ya know when ya was married to Biggie who was banging the hell out of Lil Kim plus other hoes. I'm pretty sure she knew about his hoe tendencies. What beter way to get back at him but to *** the enemy *** Biggie was making her look like a *** fool. Most chicks think that way when they are hurt. To some it is just a thought, with others chicks they react like she did, and Pac gave her the business. Say that *** now why ya didn't speak up back then and tell your side of the story. *** please go snort another line.
Please people stop thinging that Tupac was a saint...he was a talented artist and he died for nothing but he didn't respect woman during that time...I understand some of you can't look past the man's music...understand he did not respect women!!!! Models back then had a hard time dealing with him on video sets. That is why he opt to have pornstars and hookers because they don't complain.
tupac was a young loud mouth punk that had to be the center of attraction and if he wasn't he would make a scene and he would make sure alot of people were around. that's why he always had four or five of his boys around so his big mouth bit of more than he could chew they would hav his back. now the protection was not free you can believe it. he knew he would die young because of his attude and the way he carried hisself like a little punk gangster and the people that he was around made sure he carried that chip on his shoulder everywhere he went. faith seen a chance to get in the music industry with as much help as she could get and nothing was going to stop her whatever it took. it just so happen that pac and biggie had the know how and the money and the hookups to get her in. but the bottom line is pac and big was in the right time and place for the rap game you did not know who they were untill mc hammer and bobby brown and few others stop going on the road. but anyway she did what she had to do pac was a punk rapper
Nobody knows what really happened but those who were in the room (were ya'll?) Tupac was not an angel, much as folks want to worship him, he came from what he wrote about...and we all know that most rappers don't expose their women to their "boys" at all, so maybe she really didn't know they were friends.
All I can say, is what a waste of two beautiful and talented people, one dead (Pac) and one the "living" dead...
THIS *** MUST BE BROKE BECAUSE PAC SAYS IT ALL RIGHT HERE:
First off, *** your *** And the click you claim West side when we ride Come equipped with game You claim to be a player But I *** your wife We bust on Bad Boys *** *** for Life
THAT BOOK ISN'T GOING TO GET YOU ANYMORE MONEY FOR COCAINE FAITH SO TELL THE TRUTH.
@hotbunny...On the set of Wu-tang video "Ice Cream"...I remember them asking women give them head just to stand next to them in the video...WTF! Also, people just don't know how awful hip hop artist can be with a little money and attention. They see the edited video and feel like they are "Gods" to women.
GOT *** DID THEY HAVE DIRECT DEPOSIT BACK THEN. LOL!!! @Divinebeauty- I AGREE WITH YOU SOMETHING BOUT THIS *** DON'T SOUND RIGHT AND IF YOU SOMEBODY WHO THINK IT DOESN'T READ THA *** OUT ALOUD AND SEE IF IT SOUNDS BELIEVABLE OR NOT. I SAY ITS 50/50. IT MAY BE SOME TRUTH IN WHAT SHE SAYING BUT WHO THA HELL KNOWS BUT THEM 2 AND HELL ONE OF THEM AIN'T GOING TO EVER GET A CHANCE TO TELL THEIR SIDE OF THE STORY. I WOULD HAVE TO SAY LOOKING AT IT FROM A WOMAN'S PERSPECTIVE.....WHAT *** GONE GO TO A HOTEL ROOM PROBABLY ALONE TO MEET UP WITH A GUY IN A ROOM THAT SHE HAS NO INTENTIONS ON ***. *** PLEASE!!!! SHE KNEW WHAT THA HELL SHE WAS GOING THERE FOR AND IT WASN'T FO' NO *** MONEY. AND ALL THESE *** *** PUTTING CLAIM ON IF THEY KNEW PAC KNEW HER OR KNEW BIGGIE HONESTLY WHO GIVES A ***!!!! WE DON'T KNOW YO' *** JUST LIKE WE DON'T KNOW THEM SO U THINK CUZ WE HEAR IT OUT YO' MOUTH ITS CREDIBLE. SAVE THAT *** FO' YO' MYSPACE BLOG. NUCCAS GETTING MAD TALKING BOUT WE DON'T KNOW THEM...UMMM I THINK THE THREAD WAS TO GIVE OUR OPINION ON THE EXCERPT FROM HER BOOK NOT WHETHER OR NOT WE *** BRUSH ELBOWS WITH THEM AT A *** FAMILY REUNION. NUCCAS LOVE TO LIVE OFF SOMEONE ELSES FAME...OH I KNEW HIM I KNOW HER....WHO GIVES A ***!!!! IF THA COMMENTS AFFECTING YO' *** THAT BAD LOG THA *** OFF!!! AS FOR FAITH MY NUMBER ONE QUESTION IS WHY NOW? THIS *** WENT DOWN WHEN I WAS IN HIGH SCHOOL I AM NOW IN GRAD SCHOOL. WHAT IN THA *** TOOK YOU SO *** LONG? IF SHE DID OR DIDN'T DO IT HERES MY THING....I DON'T GIVE A *** WHAT YOU SAY SHE KNEW DEM 2 NUCCAS HAD A BEEF. IF THA WORLD KNEW IT AND HER *** WAS IN THA MIST OF THA *** SHE KNEW IT TOO. I AM NOT SAYING SHE IS A *** SO TAKE HOW YA WANNA TAKE IT AND DRAW YOUR OWN CONCLUSION...ONLY A *** WITH *** LIKE MANNERISMS IS GONNA BE WITH, DO A SONG WITH, SIT ON THE LAP OF, GO TO THE HOTEL ROOM OF, A NUCCA HER HUSBAND OR BOYFRIEND HAD BEEF WITH. I AM *** SORRY, WHEN U SEE YO HUSBAND OR YO MAN REGARDLESS IF BIGGIE WAS *** OTHER *** OR NOT...YOU DON'T GO OUT AND ASSOOCIATE WITH THA *** WORST ENEMY. THAT WAS THE ULTIMATE NO NO. SHE SONG A SONG FOR HIM AND THAT WAS IT MY ***!!! THAT *** FAITH IS GUILTY BY ASSOCIATION. SHE MAY NOT BE GUILTY ON THIS *** BUT SOMETHING IS EATING THAT *** UP TO COME OUT WITH A *** BOOK ALMOST 12 YEARS LATER.
Ky Flag post Please people stop thinging that Tupac was a saint...
@Ky, oh okay. Cool. Whatever. And who said I was a Pac fan? Just b/c he is my avi don't make me a fan. (sarcasm) LOL! You right! Pac is the G.O.A.T!!
illyphilly Flag post if u talkn sh$t bout pac u might as well get outta this jawn right now!!
LMAOOOO!
WTF? Faith...yp i hope she did NOT write this! The *** is mad un-fair..Pac is gone! No one will ever know the other side! ***....
Hey Hey Hey folks...what's good?!
Before I go any further; I WOULD LIKE TO APOLOGIZE TO JAYLENS...recently I learned a bit of info..an I saw that in fact it was not her..BUT some one imitating her. It's a shame how some *** use one person and the situation to come at another person they have an issue with....ONCE agaon..to Jaylens..I am sorry..and
*lookn around for BBF* Yes BBF u where right! To the fake mean *** that did what she did..and u and I both know I know now who u are...good luck in NY..full of other hatn hoes just like u.
NOW...
Sexy Sharies Mafia Blax
Wicked B..LOL
Whats up with it family! I hope everyone is having a great day..
Here is some motivation for the soul:
Truly care Sincerely care about what you do. Give your full attention and respect to the task at hand. There are those who depend on the work you are doing. Put yourself in their shoes, and look at the world from their perspective.
You have within you the potential for excellence. That excellence will be realized in your work when you truly care about each thing you do.
Do not fall into the trap of thinking that some particular task is somehow beneath you. Instead, seek to raise up the significance of that task by giving your very best to it.
Each effort is an opportunity to express your highest, most treasured values. Each job is a chance to transform your vision of what life can be into something real and concrete.
The greatest, most valuable achievements are those built with genuine passion. Put passion and sincere care into the work you do, and the results can be astounding.
-- Ralph Marston
Boy the way some of ya'll passing judgement on Faith like Tupac ever gave a rat's a*s about ya'll. Anyone that saw Tupac on TV for five minutes could see that he was crazy as hell Come on no one here was in that room when it happened so how come so defensive? Faith has a right like any other entertainer like Patti Labelle or Quincy Jones to tell her story when and how she sees fit. Every body is asking why is she choosing to talk about it now, because it's the right time for her. I mean Quincy Jones wrote his autobiography a few years ago and we all know he's been around for like a half a century. And everyone that says Faith is hurting for money, just remember that she was still married to Biggie when he died so that means she's entitled to any monies made from his estate. I seriously doubt she's broke.
@bish damm right! i will be up bright and early. i spoke wit getta, and it will be done. lmao. *** these whack *** lyin perpetratin *** hoes. square bidnezz. u know wus up. tee hee. *evil eye
@bibian lmao. i know. lmao. broke *** wanna come out after she aint made no song since that time she made that one where she was skinny as *** in the video.
neither one of them is 100% innocent to me. everybody knows tupac is no angel, but I don't think faith is either. she probably did mess around once or twice. but then again I wasn't there. I think she should have been more considerate to the fact that he is dead before she revealed all this information.
@tracylee: *** you ***. You know hate is the new love. This is my body, and if it looks nasty to you don't look ***. Where is your pic? Thank you for helping me reach my goal before the end of the summer. Hater counter- now serving #17
@SEXYVONCIEL- Thank you, Boo. that *** must wanna *** me. No ***. I'm strictly ***
uuhm i been doin some readin jus came here to say
PEP....please stop puttin my name in everythang ***?
Anything i have to say i can say it under this name and thats my final answer!
now again.....i wear no masks if im not hea then im not!
on topic.....Faith please tell yoself you need rehab so the coke can stop tellin you to write that book!
sup redd? im outta hea!
MZSP...LOL thank u! *** like
TEXAS GALM just said Pac was a thug! He never denied that. It just seems like she gone make her self out to be the Victim through the book...but i guess we gotta wait for it to come out to know for sure..
Chileee i aint studyn the ***! she green as hell! and I PROMISE SHE WILL BE IGGED BY me..no matter WHICH SCREEN name she is signed into from here on out.
Jaylens..i think it's best to leave it alone. Cause really; we all sit on here a lot. Hell through most of the day we are with each other..so when hoes like that come around..and start ***! it gets so draining! I am using that energy to plan my wedding...but if u wanna ask LuLu please..be my guest.
oh *** its a ILLYPHIILY sighting. wut it do ol nelson mandela face azz nicca. u been gone for 40 *** years. aint *** change though. still gorgeous ladies and a bunch of bytch azz niccas. i see u pickin up where u left off though. u did MAFIA wrong, she couldn't fux wit anotha nicca for like 2 whole dayz.
<LOVE_MOUNDS> get on im please. thanx. <PLAIN> u got that email addy ma? wut up RAC, SHARIES
Plaine
Bish------(in my white people porno voice) AHHHHH F.U.C.*** YEAAAAAH!! lol!!
*BEATN the desk w/ my ***, LMAOOOOOOO* i swear i hard it!!! LOL and they do be sayn it like that! ROFLMAO! ur crazy...glad u came back to MO for a min.
SEXY..* rubn hands together * well u know me...and once we get enough of those we can start charging they ***! tee-hee...GO
STG!!! ( sexy, Tee, Getta )LOL
ATLeon08 im good ni$$a juz layn low a ni$$a b cruisn by ery now and then checkn sh$t out! whatup wit u? these *** *** thrown me off my square wit dis pac sh$t tho! man mafia stopped *** wit me homey! oh dam it only took two days huh? dats *** up i thought we had sumth special? thaz cool how jerome say it?
"I'm still a playa bout minez" sike naw i'm heartbroke!!
Bishop_Tee Flag post Spoon...what it do? we know it's was not you. we/I have known for some time now that u aint even tryn to be in this ***! I tried to write u a few times on Myspace..and it said i had to be ur friend to write you. Anyways we are making a new site soon; hopefully you will be able to come through. ********************************************
you know i will bish!
i been reading what has been going on! I just been seein that everytime theres a mask my name is always the first one to be mentioned!
I told D about how i felt bout the whole thing long time ago and let it be!
and i always knew it was a reason for me not liking that ***!
***. Who knew she was THAT *** broke. Gotta write a BS book about my dead husband just to get by? Such a shame.
And all her "what are you talking about, i gotta get out of here" dramatic acting isn't fooling anyone.
B*tch please..you're from Queens..don't act like you ain't never seen a d*ck before, or that you're scared of it; cause lord KNOWS you sucked more than a little bit.
All lies. She just needed to make some money to support all those bay-bay kids she got. If she was telling the truth, why didn't she say all this when Pac was alive? But now over 10 years AFTER his death?
Get real trick - take your place in the welfare line like the rest of the "baby for the welfare" moms.
Trick azzed skank. It's just too bad Biggie gave her his seed; sorry he didn't know she was another like the other; typical welfare hoe.
Man I'm going to tell you like this. Faith ain't lying and has no reason to lie. She ain't hurting for no money you idiots. All you outsiders wanting to know what goes on in the Music Industry have no idea what happened. First of all, Pac was a nasty *** and did things to make the situation worst. Pushed by the great Suge *** who turned on him now he's dead. Biggie wasn't the victim either because he was and had been cheating on Faith with Charli Baltimore who's father passed awat during that same time and this *** Big paid for the funeral. Unlike you broke *** that don't have a clue, get a life to write a book about...
I love Faith but to be honest I have to say I think she's a little off. Just by reading that excerpt it seems she’s either a little dense in the head or that she's covering up what really happened that day with some bullsh*t. I find it very hard to believe she didn’t know that Pac and her husband Big had beef, you know being Biggie’s wife and all. And it makes absolutely no sense to me that she would collaborate on a project with him and then go to his house to collect her money. What does make sense is that she was *** that Biggie was messing with Charlie Baltimore and Lil Kim and she was trying to get back at him through Pac, but when it cam time to deliver she developed amnesia.
Whatever the case is I’m still buying the book.
hotbunny writes: VicSage: I'm not delusional about anything and my bank account says it all. You never know who is posting on these boards, but then again, why am I arguing with a nobody.
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Your bank account doesn't speak above a whisper regarding my point..Please hang up and try your call again..." Real Talk.Brooklyn Lives-"We don't believe you,you need more people.."
I believe her. The rap community has deified Pac, but let's keep it real, he was not a good person to begin with. He was a convicted rapist, a wannabe gang banger, and a self-proclaimed thug. So why would it be difficult for anyone to believe he made those allegations up? It sounds like he always intended to set Faith up.
And understand, I love dudes music...still do, but when he caught those ***, he had that coming to him. He wanted to live that lifestyle and engage with gangsters and thugs and murder and mayhem, so he invited those *** into his body.
Anyways, Faiths account sounds credible. I never really believed that she slept with him in the first place. He would've done and said anything to get back at Big.
I believe some of it. I mean what's not to believe? The way he talked when he was "alive" that sounds like something he would say. But he refusing and having never did anything with him is a lie. Now if she married Big I'm 100% sure she was attracted to Pac because he way better looking and Big had been cheating on her so what other way to get back at him then to sleep with Pac? When they used to be friends also? So that part she lied about the rest sounds like Tupac would say that!
Atl *** she did me like dat my ni$$a?? shessh!! aight i gotta perfect song for that situation!
*** who dat in da *** homey? sheesh must b good to be the king huh ni$$a??
Rabid who da *** cares what u beleive? riddle me dat *** ***? u rabid aight out ur rabid *** mind!!
i b right back wit some pac fire!!
Blax and a ni$$a got hiz arms wide open, don't hold on too long i ain't responsible if u get poked!
for all my ppls on dis bit$h!! my old jawn did me dirty!!
Hey Nate you know you got to focus on this *** We's gonna talk about these scandalous hoes [Nate] I can talk about scandalous *** [2Pac] Oh I know you can! I know you that's why we gonna do it Daz on the beat Hey Daz, *** stop *** around with the piano *** Just drop that *** like uhh, this here
[2Pac] I met you through my homie now you act like you don't know me So disappointed cause baby that *** was so phony It's not for me, you see no lovin from my closest homies Woulda paid you no mind, but baby you was all up on me While you proceed with precision, you had the table hosed No, I ain't mad at you baby, go 'head and play them fools They chose not to listen, so now he stuck inside his house and can't leave without his *** permission The mission's to be a playa, my alias is Boss Drop a top on these jealous ***, playa let me floss Y'all don't wanna see me in pain I'll leave that *** like Toni Braxton, "Never breathing again" It's scandalous, I never liked your back stabbin ***, triiick Used to watch you money grabbin, who you baggin beeyitch? Ready to bust, in the city you don't know who to trust But *** lookin scandalous
[Chorus: Nate Dogg]
Scandalous.. she's so scandalous, she's so scandalous She's so scandalous.. she's so scandalous, she's so scandalous Scandalous.. she's so scandalous, she's so scandalous She's so scandalous.. she's so scandalous, she's so scandalous
[2Pac] How's it hangin? Cause baby from the back the *** is bangin I've been stressin in this ghetto game, tryin to do my thang Won't be no ***, no ***-kissin This ***'ll have ya wakin up with all your cash missin I'm askin, as if I'm qualified to analyze You're lookin at a *** who specialize in tellin lies She got a body make a *** fantasize Her face ain't never shed a tear through them scandalous eyes My sister ? in poverty Plus I knew she was a freak *** so why should it bother me? I'd probably be sprung, addicted to the heat of her tongue and though I don't where we're goin, she's makin me come I've been trained as a boss playa, so what you sayin? Let me show you, got some hookers we can toss later Before I let her get me off guard Went in the purse took a hundred dollars *** I'm so scandalous
[Chorus]
[2Pac] Dangerous and ambitious, while schemin on gettin riches I'm spittin at tricks cause I'm addicted to pretty *** Currency motivated, not easily terminated Now that we made it, my *** can never be faded This is my prophecy -- I gotta be paid All you cowards that try to stop me is beggin for early graves I thought we was cool, I was a fool, thinkin you could be true when I don't *** with your punk crew These are the tales for my *** doin time in the cell I went from hell, to livin well Bustin at *** who said my name in vain I got no time for them tricks, I'm heavy in the game I wanna be a baller, please But the *** and the liquor keep on callin me I'm floatin free on the highway, formulatin plans Can't wait til I see L.A., cause it's so scandalous
[Chorus]
[Chorus repeat to end (2Pac speaks over it)]
[2Pac] Aiyyo.. how the prettiest *** be the more scandalous the hoe be You ever peep that ***? (Nah) A *** can be like fifteen, *** with a *** 35 Gettin him for ends Hoes these days is way too *** intelligent When these *** get to trickin, hahaha, it's over then That's aight though Keep a *** heavy in the game, bout so long Watch them hoes All you *** out there Beware these lyin *** scandalous ***
faith hated the fact that lil kim was popping off biggie and charlie baltimore too....so she figured payback is a bi#$ and was giving it up to his biggest rival who is 2pac.....R.I.P to biggie and 2pac...thanks faith we owe you one for taking two of the most powerful people in music from us...thanks.
I lost ALL respect for this chick. Like someone said "someone made her just sit on his lap" in those pics. I'm tired of everyone trying to play the victim in this whole Tupac and Biggie beef. She is not innocent, and if she really cared about him she would'nt have been around Pac at all seeing how him and Biggie had issues at the time. I love Pac!!! So get off it CRACKHEAD Evans!
LuLu whooo whoo whoo *** U! hey babeee LOL Blax Grrrr * giving hugzz * sup Gangsta? SPOON..i wrote u!
MiMi *giving hugzz * my bad mama i saw u speak earlier..but the old man called me.
*eyen this dude*
Uhmmmm Illy..i don't know u; but i see every one else does. It would be rude not to say...
what it dooooooo?
how it really went down.................
"Really?" I asked. "Why is that!"
"'Cause n*ggas set me up that ***. You know that right!"
I swallowed his nut and took a deep breath. He was staring at me like he thought I was the one who set him up.
"You don't really believe that bullsh*I," I said.After I gagged
"I'm telling you ... n*ggas set me up," he said in a low voice. OOOHHH YEAAAHHHH DEEP THROAT DAT ***...
"Look, Pac. I just need to get my check and then I have to go ..."
"The situation with the money is like this," he said. "If I give it to you, then you my b*tch."
I got up and said OK Daddy.
"I'm YO b*tch," I said, trying to keep my voice even and steady.
"You a Big azz ***."
I thought about how people always got sh*t wrong. He was probably thinking about the song "Me a bigga azz biitch." And I wasn't that Big when I made that record.
"I'm on a diet."
"I though u got lipo?" he asked
"I did that too."
"Whatever."
"Look," I said. "You hired me to suck ur ***, I did it. I want my money and that's it."
"Oh word, it's like that? You just want your money?"
"You told me it wouldn't be a problem," I said. "The only reason I came up here is because you said ..."
"So you not trying to eat my azz too?"
Oh, and Tupac may have said some of those things because he wasn't being his self at the time but she is not innocent! What married woman is going to sit in another man's lap, especially a man that is beefing with your husband. I don't care what kind of problems her and Big were having that was not right. Scandalous....oooh don't make me go there! R.I.P Pac!!!
***!!!!!! I just typed this long *** intro with all these *** outs, forgot to copy the sh*t and strait lost it...so I'm too *** to re-write it!!!! So...
HELLO EVERYONE!!!!! HAPPY THURSDAY AND ALL THAT OTHER GOOD STUFF!!!!
@The Topic She lying and she wrong as hell cause he ain't here to defend himself!!!!
*goin back to find my original post for MS_MIMI.* oh look, there it be. it says:
ATLeon08 Flag post Good mernin and happy Thirstday MS_MIMI PLAINE (ctornes1@yahoo) PRETTYLADY CORNBREAD MAFIA SEXYREDD? ANTHOW aka MR_RUN_AND_HIDE
...and u was the first dayum one i ***. i take my apologies in bud. thanx.
*still laffin at REDDs tag*
<ILLY> i know it hurt homie but be skrong. u know u cain't change em to househoes.
* STANDING UP AND clapn wildly for BLAX..running over to her*
Miss..Miss can i get that TRILL version now; and can u autograph it for me??!! LMAO
I was *DEAD* at the 3rd line...
I swallowed his nut and took a deep breath. He was staring at me like he thought I was the one who set him up.
ROFLMAO!
Bunni..oh ok. *** that must have been a min a go!
well..welcome back Illy...I'm Bish...u'll get to know me over time if ur around..
The way Tupac sang about women, I have no doubt this is true. He was probably seeing what Faith would actually do or he assumed she was just like all the other ghetto b#tches the gangsta rappers speak about.
After reading the story about how Tupac treated the woman he married, he was just another talented ghetto *** who made a lot of money by fools who loved his music. He was talented, I'll give him that but that's where it ended. If my daughter brought someone home who talked and treated her like that, I'd cry a river of tears then run him out of my house.
This scenario was between the two of them and if she said this is what happened, then this is her version of events. It would be something I would never forget.
I normally don't judge looks in a relationship but looking at Biggie vs Faith and how shallow people can be about physical appearances, what did she find appealing about him? His mouth was filthy and in interviews he had no respect for the female species at ALL!!! His mugly face plus attitude toward women made him even more hideous to me.
<ILLY> oh u already slo how we do. we just did a lil trip to the bottom a while ago but of course ur girl aint come. i know her azz up in the towers watchin right now too.
<MS_MIMI> thats wuz a sorry azz excuse for an apology. be as adamant as u were in the accusation. i hate to say this but, spit it out.
@Mimi - I'll be in San Diego until Tuesday then chill the rest of the week until my baby get home. **sniff...I misseded her** Funny how we can't wait til they leave and soon as they're gone, we boo hoo like some ***' babies. LOL
@Lulu - *** you! ATL chose your replacement, not me! But, we can still take this *** to da flag pole. Do summin'!
lol
AfterDark...
*lookn down @ his tag* Niiicceee hehe..what it do babes? SO tell me is that ATL'S CAR in the background w/ the missing hub cap? what?
I can't ask a question? LOL!
Jakey...dammit did i say hi? Oh well u know i love ur *** so HIIIIII! LOL
aight..so since Club Bish is so lame..who gone do a forum today?
Hmmm? any one?2876
AFTERDARK..ROFLMAOOOOO!
*feeln bad for talkn bout his car so i offer a peace offering*
My Bad baby...*sitn on his lap* here this here is a free pass for the Smash room; and the services minus anal..sorry..for two of my baddest hoes.
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IN HONOR OF ILLY COMN BACK
( even though this *** aint speak to me) and getn back right w/ my HOMIE MAFIA!
Club Bish WELCOME BACK!!! Illy & Mafia PARTY!
I NEED Y'ALL TO WORK THIS OUT! ( LOL )
so for them and any one that has been a part for a min..
Let's talk it out; catch up. answer a few questions..
You Know how we do..JUST VIBE...
5 MIN! Grrrrrrrrrrr!
ANCIENT ARTIFACT NUT SACKS...AKA ATL AKA LEELEE
I JUST GOT YOUR MESSAGE...ARE YOU OK??? CAN U CALL SOMEONE TO GIVE YOU A RIDE???
YALL....... ATLGRAMPS JUST CALLED ME AND SAID THAT SOME HOOD NICCAZ WALKED UP ON HIM AND JACKED HIM FOR HIS HUVAROUND SCOOTER...hE SAID THEY PULLED A BEEBEE GUN ON HIM AND TOLD HIM TO GET THE FUUCK UP AND TO BREAK HISELF!!LOL SO HE DOESNT HAVE HIS WALKER OR CANE WITH HIM..CAN SOME ONE LOCATED IN THE GREATER ATLANTA AREA PICK HIM UP???
Did Pac disrepect women at times. Yes. Did Pac show respect to women? Yes. Was he smart and intelligent? Yes. Did he get cuaght up with the wrong crew? Yes.
Pac didn't call women B's in h's in every song that he made. Nobody else was making records like "Keep Your Head Up," "Dear Mama," "Brenda got a Baby." Those weren't only songs he said deep, true things in either.
Pac wasn't always right, but he had tons of songs that dropped knowledge.
Even in his song, "Wonder Why," he told a story about a female that he knew who went down the wrong road and that's why she was called B. I listened to every lyric of that song before I made my judgment and that song did not upset me.
"Look here miss thing hate to salt your game but you'se a money hungry woman and you need to change in the locker room all the homies did was laugh high-fives cause another *** played yo, a&& It was said you was sleazy Even easy sleeping around for what you need and it's your thing and you can shake how you wanna give it up free or make your money on the corner but don't be bad play the game get mad and change then you wonder wonder why these m&** call you names you still looking for a way out and that's okay I can see you when the stray is way out So keep your mind on your money Enroll in school and as the years pass by you can show them fools but you aint tryna hear me cause you're stuck heading for the bathroom bout to get tossed up still looking for a rich man you dug a ditch got your legs up trying to get rich I love you like a sister but you need to switch and *** wouldn't call you b."
Each verse get more indeph into the story. He was just yelling B,B,B like these rappers do today.
I hate today's rap. They say B every other word for no reason at all. Pac didn't do that.
My opinion of 2Pac is that he was a very gifted, intelligent man who was searching to find himself as a man and to find God. He was such a complex individual which is why they have classes based on his work at ivy league universities. He has so many songs where he has questions for God. He was just ignorant in areas such has watching the words that come out of his mouth, and that there is life and death in the power of the tongue. But he was so ahead of his time. That's why no other rapper can hold a candle to him.
No one can say that she's lying but no one can be quick to believe because the other person's not here to defend himself. It is possible that this young *** in his early 20's asked her that? Yes. Is it possible that it's not true. Yes. Guess we'll never know, but I don't really care to know. As soon as I saw this, I thought about his mom and how she's gonna fill with this book coming out about her son. But it is what is.
@HotBunny, @MetaSmith, @Sexxxys, @BoogieMan, @Ky and ESPECIALLY @CocoKandy<<<<<<<
PREACH! CHURCH! That's some real talk right there and all of ya'll have dropped some knowledge today!
I get sooo tired of people being on a celebrity's "tip" (alive or dead) and acting as if the person can do no wrong like they walked on water or some sh*t. Crazy!
Faith had her issues, and maybe she got caught up, and then again, maybe she did'nt...but that doesnt mean that it is IMPOSSIBLE for a famous rapper to have lied on her. Negroes (men and women) lie all the time! Just cause Pac is dead means he always told the gospel truth?! NOT!
I have always loved Pacs music and still rock it from time to time, but my dude had REAL ISSUES plain and simple. I was too through back in the day when I saw him act a STRAIGHT FOOL in court. The n*gga was throwing straight temper tantrums and I was like WTF?? He seemed spoiled, arrogant and no doubt, he had a very low opinion of women in general.
No, Faith's not virgin mary, but neither is tupac the f*cking pope. People need to be more open minded about what could have "really" went down and stop automatically taking Pac's side just because he was good-looking, famous and a MAN.
Ok, been loving Pac, Biggie and Faith. But Faith, you could have came up with something better than that *** that you are going to publish in that book. Cause all its saying to ME is: Yeah I f-ed him but since he can't contest it(R.I.P. PAC) I am gonna give a syrupy sweet version.Right. You busted down plain and simple. PAC WAS AND STILL IS ONE OF THE SEXIEST MEN EVER, SO I FEEL YOU.
BUT YOU AIN'T GOTTA LIE TO KICK IT!!