: LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - Dead rapper Tupac "2Pac" Shakur, the hip-hop icon who sold more records after he was murdered than during his brief career, is the most overrated person in music, according to music magazine Blender.
Shakur tops a tongue-in-cheek list that also includes "places, trends and other junk in rock," Blender said in its upcoming October issue, due on newsstands next week.
Other overrated finalists included the Grammys at No. 7, encores at No. 12, Pink Floyd at No. 14 and "the music you loved as a teenager" at No. 23.
Shakur, a "gangsta" rapper who showed his sensitive side in movies, was killed during an unsolved drive-by shooting in Las Vegas in 1996. More than a dozen albums have been released in the ensuing years, and his image is almost as ubiquitous as that of Che Guevara or Bob Marley.
But while Shakur was a decent rapper with "insane rock-star charisma," according to Blender, he also "larded records with self-mythologizing, mediocre filler."
It's not the first time the pages of Blender have been used to bring down Shakur a few notches. In its June issue, rapper Lil Wayne listed him among his top five rappers, but then admitted: "I can't front: I was never into Pac."
As for the Grammys, the music industry's top awards, Blender said sitting through the ceremony was "like watching paint dry on Celine Dion's forehead."
And encores were notable chiefly for allowing bands to go backstage and do drugs while fans wonder if they should beat the rush to the parking lot, Blender said.
Veteran British rock band Pink Floyd, meanwhile, were responsible for "unbearable LSD slapstick" and "self-important bombast." And Blender warned that teenagers' brains "can inflate a great band to Christ-size proportions" and turn a bad song into the most meaningful.
isn't that a predominately white magazine??? i know for sure I have never read it or thought about reading it but its basically a publicity stunt. How could someone even fathom the thought that tupac wasn't worthy enough to be one of the most influential black men of our time? Tupac will always be the greatest no doubt about it.
Well, i think so too. Everyone made such a hype about this dude cuz of his tragic and untimely death, which was unfortunate but Tupac was a gimmick. First he came out as some regular rappper doing stuff like "I get around" w/ Digital Underground, doing things like "Brenda's Got a Baby", u got old school pics of pac dressed in some sweater vests looking all preppy, then he flips the script trying to be hard core thug when he hooked up w/ Suge *** & co.
And he was NEVER on the level of Rakim, or KRS 1, and he wasnt as nice as Biggie IMO. He was good, but he wasnt best. Not even in my top 5
Big sick as hell but not better then Pac. Big could not change his flow like pac could nor could big make people feel what he was saying the way pac did. Pac was so intelligent that college have classes on his lyrics because they consider him a philosypher. All the *** *** rappin bout now adayz pac did that back then. Pac is who got theses bammas actin hard and tat'*** up they body. Funny how people that dont have the talent or skillz judge those who do.
What is the craziest sh*t Ive ever heard. Tupac was The best. He was more than gansta rap Tupac wrote poetry AND IF YOU EVER READ IT YOU WOULD KNOW IT WAS SOME OF THE REALEST SH*T EVER WROTE. Some of you cloWNs talking about how he used to dress prep DUMMY he also went to art school. Black people stop holding back other black people calling them sellouts bc they think that what is good enough for whites is good enough for them. Stop conforming to the white mans mentality, that is what he wants to see you hate on and murder your own race. WAKE UP MY BLACK BEAUTIFUL PEOPLE AND START GETTING ON THE GRIND FOR A BETTER LIFE. F**K THESE STREETS. WE CAN BE JUST AS GOOD AS IF NOT BETTER THAN THESE WHITE FOLKS. WHY DO WE HAVE TO BE SELLOUTS BC WE WANT BETTER FOR OURSELVES AND OUR CHILDREN.
****LADY SWAG*****
pac4 lyfe...eveybody else kill yo self. pac didn't do it for publicity he made it for da thugz...not t.v. or none of dat other ***...but for da *** out ridin'....Hail Mary, run quick 5ee, what do we have here now, do you want to ride or die ?..lalalalalala if you ckouldn't relate you ckouldn't relate, but real *** relate to pac(***)'5 ckontent... for da 5outh and we5t ckoa5t it'5 gonna be pac(***), ea5t ckoast its gonna be biggie, 5o get it how you live
I can't front, Pac was the coldest to touch the mic in my opinion. You have cats that can spiit fire on the streets, but you can't connect with them on a deep level.
Pac in my opinion have tight lyrics, a deep story teller, and it was more on some getting you to feel that ish your heart. To me that was his gift. Biggie ran ***.Y. Pac ran the United States.
i loved 2pac shakur he was the truth and thats what the media was afraid of maybe if he was a sellout like some of these dj's and so call rappers now he would b so called the best in the media eye . yall just hatein because he was the best rapper when he was alive he was a rapper everybody could relate to in the 90's now u have rappers into too many woman,gold, too materialistic now every rapper is phony wanna b's now
The magazine is like George Washingtons face, ON THE MONEY! Big killed that kid on the M.I.C and pac was a hater (listen to ANY interview about biggie-keepin it real). Go back and listen to MOST of Pacs music, he slapped those rymes together in 10 minutes. His rymes consist of. *** like me/goin to the penitentiary/say/day/hey/real/steel/chrome/dome etc. COME ON! Whereas REAL lyrical assassins like Big and Rakim surprise you with their punch lines. "The ryme that I'm stylin/is smooth as a violin/but rough enough to break New York from Long Island -Rakim. Now thats clever rymin and metaphors to boot. And for those who say Biggie cant switch up his flow, I suggest you listen to his joint with Bone Thugz where he PUNISHES them using their style, peep all the creative ryhmin in that song.Lots of sin/ lots of gin/oxygen/all them women I got to like one/all them *** I got to fight one. He goes OFF in that song. I'll give Pac this, he makes PERFECT song, no mistakes, he rides the track like no other but as a lyricist? Not close to the heavyweights. Big/Rakim blew up OUT THE GATE. Pacs 1st joint "2pacallypsenow" didnt do great. BUT, once Pac started getting aressted and "allegedly" takin booty, he blew up. If you recall, interscope wouldnt post the million dollar appeal bond for him, why? CAUSE HE WASNT MAKING MUCH MONEY FOR THE LABEL. Suge *** had to post it. It might be hard to swallow but Pac was average at best as an MC. Keeping it Real
@staypoppin you OBVIOUSLY DIDNT listen to No biggie if you think DIDDY was the result of his success. I say SUGE was the result of Pacs success. Pac sure wadnt talking that "F the East Coast" *** till he got on Death Row and was protected by Suge. Pac was NO thug, Pac was no gangster, Pac just ran his mouth and wrote 10 songs a day. I'm not saying he wasnt talented, I'm saying he was no lyricist, he was average. That white cat eminem is a better rapper than Pac. Keepin it real
@Staypoppin, Because biggies rymes and music appeal to the intellect and you kids today aint tryin to think your tryin to hear abusive language. A songs hook could go like this "Yous a B*tch *** Fin b*tch *** fin B*tch" say that hook 3 times in a row. THAT WOULD SELL TO THESE KIDS. No substance, no lyrical content just some aggressive language that appeals to yall. Pac understood that. He wrote for women and dummied down his spit for ignorant people and they ate it up. Listen to how he rapped on "2pacallaypse" and "Strictly4myn*ggaz", Then listen to his stuff on death row and tell me he didnt dummy down his content. And Last I heard Biggie NOT Pac is got a movie coming out.
And yes Latina, Big daddy Kane had heat as did Kool G Rap, Treach from Naughty By Nature etc
@Staypoppin, If me against the world sold 4 mill. It was because as I said, BECAUSE OF ALL OF PACS CONTROVERSY. He was a rapist at that time, he had gotten *** at that time so he was in the media eye. Why didnt his two previous joints sell as well? I'll tell you why, BECAUSE HE BLEW UP DUE TO CONTROVERSY. Thanks for substantiating that.
@Hurtmebad--> Pac already had a movie/*** a few years back! Did moderately well for a *** as well. How many albums has Biggie sold, how many albums has Pac sold? That would show you how much appeal the artist has. Next, Biggie flowed better than Pac, no doubt about it, but as it relates to lyrical content, Pac *** Big up everyday of the week. One had better flow, the other had better content! Pac was a beast. The nicca even got a class at a university! Does Biggie have that? Like I said before, Jay-z and Nas are better than Biggie and I don't even like those niccas!
Hurt me Bad
Ok, let's say that's what helped him. Why is he still hot? Hype can only last for so long before people see the truth. 12 yrs. later and he selling like hot cakes. THAT"S QUALITY!
Answer my qustion, why can't Biggie match him? He's a legend and all, why can't he sell records?
I'll be back later!
As for the Grammys, the music industry's top awards, Blender said sitting through the ceremony was "like watching paint dry on Celine Dion's forehead."
And encores were notable chiefly for allowing bands to go backstage and do drugs while fans wonder if they should beat the rush to the parking lot, Blender said.
Veteran British rock band Pink Floyd, meanwhile, were responsible for "unbearable LSD slapstick" and "self-important bombast." And Blender warned that teenagers' brains "can inflate a great band to Christ-size proportions" and turn a bad song into the most meaningful.
^^^LOLOLOL ALL TRUE!!! AND I AGREE WITH LIL WAYNE. I LIST PAC IN THE TOP 5 AS WELL... BUT I WAS NEVER REALLY INTO HIM LIKE THAT.
look tupac is the best sellin rapper of all time, so how is that not a reason for someone 2 "overrate" him...he sold 75 million(maybe more)! his records sales dont lie! but then again tupac was sayin *** the east coast but he was livin in maryland and ny, b4 he even moved 2 cali! so it is what it is
STAYPOPPIN01
Yeah but Craig Mack didnt get those 8 million people on his side-lol. Thats why he got dropped cuz he coudlnt pull his weight, people werent really feeling his flow. 8 million people arent gonna make u rich if they aint feeling your *** now. Biggie got that cuz people was going crazy for his ***. "My rap lines is like land mines" lolol...And hearing him freestyle live cemented his skill to people. And NY audiences are tough audiences to win over. If you cant come correct on a corner in Bed Stuy or anywhere in NYC trust and believe you will be exposed. (Back then anyway)
@Louisvilleslugger, a *** is NOT a movie sir, Big also has a ***-several of them. Since when do album sales equal the BEST? Eminem,Young Mc,Mc Hammer, Sirmixalot,Vanilla Ice and 50cent have sold ALOT of music are they great Mcs? I guess they have alot of appeal? Yao Ming gets more votes than Lebron,Kobe and Mello but I guess hes a better baller too according to your rational. Its called politics. Big NEVER had to use controversy to sell his music, he was a BEAST out the box UNLIKE PAC.
Ofcourse Blender would say that. His mom was a Black Panther and he rapped for the impoverished not the rich. I love PAC so MOTHAF*UCK BLENDER MAGAZINE.
P.S.
WEEZY was never into PAC but listed him as his top 5 and stay sayin him name in music? Does that make sense? He is an idiot and Im tired of hearing his voice on the radio every other song. His squeaky voice is very ANNOYING! Hip Hop is in a very disappointing state right now. Kanye cut it out with the T-PAIN voice thingy, you sound ridiculous. Thank god for Jay.
STAYPOPPIN01 Flag post Hurt me Bad
Ok, let's say that's what helped him. Why is he still hot? Hype can only last for so long before people see the truth. 12 yrs. later and he selling like hot cakes. THAT"S QUALITY!
Answer my qustion, why can't Biggie match him? He's a legend and all, why can't he sell records?
I'll be back later!
BIGGIE WENT DIAMOND! PAC NEVER WILL :-D GET OVER IT..
wtf i disagee wit them 1000% Pac was the realist EVER!!!!!!!!!! go on youtube and listen to"holla if ya hear me",blasphemy,shead so many tears,bury me a G,BIGGIE NEVER EVEEEEEEEEEEEEEEER!! WAS BETTER THAN TUPAC,MY BOI PAC HAD BAD BOY SHOOK REAL SH^T,AND PAC SOLD WAY MORE THAN BIGGLE GO LISTEN TO THOSE SONGS I JUST WROTE AND THEN TELL ME WHOS BETTER
HURTEMBAD Flag post @Louisvilleslugger, a *** is NOT a movie sir, Big also has a ***-several of them. Since when do album sales equal the BEST? Eminem,Young Mc,Mc Hammer, Sirmixalot,Vanilla Ice and 50cent have sold ALOT of music are they great Mcs? I guess they have alot of appeal? Yao Ming gets more votes than Lebron,Kobe and Mello but I guess hes a better baller too according to your rational. Its called politics. Big NEVER had to use controversy to sell his music, he was a BEAST out the box UNLIKE PAC.
^^^YAZZIRRR!!! TELL IT!!!
And I have heard the RUMOR that they teach a class on Pac in college for years. I have YET to see ANYONE Substantiate this. Know why? Cause its not true. They may use some of his content for a discussion or even a thesis but a class? Whats it called, Pac 101? 105? COME ON
Listen to Pacs weak freestyle vs Big. NO COMP!
http://tw.youtube.com/watch?v=8Y-xMLLZaKE
Tupac was is and will always be the greatest rapper, if not artist ever. Most versatile, Realest ***!gga ever to stand in front of a Mic. He was light years ahead of his time and competition. HE even discussed buying a baseball team in '96. His ultimate goal was to buy into the heart of America(baseball is America's past time)make great movies (Baby boy was written for Tupac) and create a Black revolution and create that ultimate unity, all put on hold because of his un-timely death. Biggy was simply a great rapper, Pac was the total package. Even Nas, in his prime couldn't stand toe to toe with Makeveli the Done, My favorite artist period. Don't debate with me, you will LOSE... JAy-Z, tho he's my saggitarrian brother is probably the most over-rated, rappin' about money all day is not music. Pac was music.....
wowser626 Flag post wtf i disagee wit them 1000% Pac was the realist EVER!!!!!!!!!! go on youtube and listen to"holla if ya hear me",blasphemy,shead so many tears,bury me a G,BIGGIE NEVER EVEEEEEEEEEEEEEEER!! WAS BETTER THAN TUPAC,MY BOI PAC HAD BAD BOY SHOOK REAL SH^T,AND PAC SOLD WAY MORE THAN BIGGLE GO LISTEN TO THOSE SONGS I JUST WROTE AND THEN TELL ME WHOS BETTER
^^^ UHHH... THAT WOULD BE MR. CHRISTOPHER WALLACE AKA FRANK WHITE AKA BIGGIE AKA NOTORIOUS B.I.G. THAT'S WHY PAC WAS SOOOO ANGRY. HE WAS THE MAD RAPPER LOL "I GOT MO JOIN BLAZE $H1T DAN HIM! SO SO HE GOT BOATS & *** IN FISH TANKS IN HIS VIDEOS AND I GOT ROBBED FOR ALL MY DOUGH BY SUGE... WIT MY GANGSTA AZZ..
:-D LOL
OK LEMME LEAVE DAT CONTRADICTING KEEP YA HEAD UP DEAR MOMMA MONEY OVER *** LIL LEPRECHAUN KNUCKA ALONE...
And FYI selling the most records doesnt make you a better rapper or better artist period. Rappers back in the day didnt have the same commercial exposure that they do know so there were alot of gems that didnt sell and get the credit they should have money-wise.. Eric B 4 President was one of the hottest joints I ever heard in my life.. Do you think it sold millions? Hell no!
Selling more records than someone else deosnt make yo better. No disrespect to Rihanna but Im sure she's probably sold more records than Deborah Cox and Rihanna cant touch Deborah Cox's skills. Rakim would sloughter Pac on the mic. But his record sales pale in comparison. Sales do not equal better skills/talent.
I'd say that the reason Pac sold as many albums as he did afer his death is due to the fact that he had tracks for albums. He obviously laid down A LOT of songs to put all those albums out. That doesn't mena they're were all that though. And people bought them b/c it's Pac. Best ebelive if Big had that many tracks for albums after his death, they'd sell like *that*. I do agree that Pac is overrated. don't get me wrong, it's not like I didn't have a few joints that would make me say "oh ***!!" LoL but I don't think he should be worshipped the way he is.
@HURTEMBAD
"since when has albums sales equal the best?" since alwayz! where have u been?! how can u call urself the best or the greatest rapper or lyricist if ppl dont buy yo ***?! thats jus like someone sayin the fubu is the best clothin line knowin *** well dont nobody buy or wear that ***! think bout it! if u wack aint nobody gonna buy yo ***! the only reason why these rappers are the best cuz ppl buy and listen 2 the music! come on now
Depends on what a person likes to hear. To me, he is a bit overrated. His style was basic. His flow was choppy, although he could expand on different topics. Biggie is good, a little better than Pac(flow wise) and equal to Jay, but I don't think he the best either. Biggie's style is too one-dimensional, as far as topics go. Nas'll blow all three of these dudes out the water.
My all-time favorite/best ever is Rakim. Can switch flow speeds, rhyme about any topic, educated punchlines and the one who ushered this style of ryhming into existence. I also give Ra a leg up on these dudes because he dropped those lyrics when he was 16.
Soldier Boy is in his prime and Krsone is NOT. Plus I dont believe it, provide proof please, mere assertions is not proof. Difference is Big and Pac WERE BOTH in there prime and BIG could ALWAYS eat Pac alive and Pac knew it thats why he was hatin on Big. Lets look at this video. I GUESS THIS WAS ANOTHER BAD DAY HUNH? Pac need to see Ice Cube and learn how to have a GOOD DAY lol
http://tw.youtube.com/watch?v=GdKbVpNMLdE
Well their right. I HAVE SAID THIS LONG AGO!
How u gonna come from Digital Underground(A BUBBLEGUM GIMMICK AZZ GROUP)as a BACK-UP DANCER
Then all of a sudden------>UR A THUG!
***! 2pac was FAKE AS THEY COME and he have yall *** ALL OVER HIS DIC thinking he was this REAL AZZ THUG! LMAO
2pac DIDN'T become a THUG until he signed to Death Row(I GUESS HE HAD TO UPHOLD THAT IMAGE OF A THUG FOR THE RECORD COMPANY) LOL
So Blender...I FEEL YOU 100% on this!
I guess he didn't feel so gangsta after getting that BOOTIEHOLE RAPED IN PRISON! LMAO
I agree Pac was NO THUG, he was SOFT and lets talk about how they was sexin him up in the joint on the east coast, thats why he sold he soul for a jelly role to Suge to get out, he had it rough in there. Pac was 5'8 165 WHAT WAS HE GONE DO? All he was gone do was SPREAD EM and he did.- Keepin it real
Umm yeah there is alot of old school rap taht didnt sell platinum, yet its better than a lot of *** that sells today or that got commercial exposure back in the day. Back in the day I believe MC Hammer even won awards for his record sales and popularity. Does that make him better than Rakim, Nas, Krs-1, or Big Daddy Kane? Hell to tha naw!!! Soulja Boy probably sold more than thos kats as well. Dont mean he is better.
@HURTEMBAD
if mc hammer sold more then anything that 2pac has put out, then yea he is considered the better artist! records sales DONT LIE! if yo *** is wack aint nobody gonna buy it trust and believe! why that is hard for u 2 believe?! its the *** truth! like staypoppin01 said PEOPLE DICTATE HOW HOT U ARE!
@staypoppin01
thats what im sayin though! lol
@BACKSHOTZ...GET UR *** STRAIGHT BEFORE YOU MAKE A COMMENT. THE WHOLE THUG LIFE MOVEMENT STARTED WAAAAAAAAAY BEFORE DEATH ROW! BIGGIE WAS NOTHIN BUT A 2 BIT HUSTLER B4 HE GOT THAT ADVANCE FROM BAD BOY THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN HE'S FRANK WHITE THE DRUG KINGPIN. BIGGIE WAS A BETTER LYRICIST/STORYTELLER THAN PAC...BUT PAC IS STILL THE GREATEST RAPPER OF ALL TIMES. YOU CANT EVEN COMPARE THEIR ALBUM SALES. BIGGIE HAD A WHOLE 2 ALBUMS IN 3 YEARS. HIS CAREER WAS TOO ***-LIVED FOR HIM TO BE THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME. MAYBE HE WAS THE GREATEST RAPPER TO ONLY HAVE 2 ALBUMS...I'LL GIVE U THAT. PAC WAS A REAL *** THAT TALKED ABOUT REAL ***, NOT MONEY HOES AND CLOTHES ALL A *** KNOWS. PAC WAS MORE EDUCATED, AND HE WAS THE SON OF A PANTHER, WHICH IS WHY HIS LYRICS HAD MORE VALUE THAN BIGGIE'S...IF YOU ACTUALLY KNOW HIS LYRICS THEN I DOUBT YOU CAN INTELLECTUALLY DISAGREE WITH ME...
Pac better than Biggie or vice-versa is debatable, but what isnt is that Rakim IMO holds the title of probably the best rapper of ALL time. I suggest if you dont know about that, go listen to "Know The Ledge" and Eric B for President" "Dont Sweat The Technique" and then tell me that *** Rakim was flowing wasnt sick!
@hurtmebad--> All 75 million plus albums Pac has sold is due to controversy? GTFOH! A lot of *** be in some ***, but all those niccas ain't selling! So what makes Pac different? The nicca appealed to way more people than Biggie because of his lyrics, point blank. Except for a few diehard (usually from NY) fans, most *** agree that Biggie was nice, but Pac was better! It's just that simple! Even NAS himself, said Pac was the best, and to me, he--himself is better than BIG.
While you ***, those niccas you named DO have appeal! They ain't bumping in my IPOD, but they are in someones! So they do have value for some *** out here, but none of them including Biggie has sold as many albums as Pac. Look at how many albums E-40 has dropped, I consider most of them garbage, but some poor nicca out there bumping his ***! If we aren't going to use album sales then what metric can we use? The nicca been dead this long and he still selling because of controversy? Nicca please!
BTW, Pac's *** was in the theaters, not some made-for-TV *** like BIGs probably will be. The nicca is the most talked about, emulated, and hated on rap artist of all-time he must have done something right!
So what NO Rapper has put out or sold more than L.L so is he the best? NOPE. All I'm saying is that lyrically Pac cant see Big and he CANT. ALL MCS say that. Does Pac have a better voice, better beats better songs? YEP -keepin it real. But how is Pac real? Who has he ever killed? Robbed? Beat up? I seen him stomp out a cat in the casino with Suge but come on now. NOBODY has yet to present any PROOF about this so called Pac class lol (rumor) Real cats can handle doin time, how come Pac was squirmin? How come he DID ANYTHING TO GET OUT (In Pacs words) YALL KNOW WHY, he was gettin sexed up. If thats what you guys call REAL I dont wanna be real.
@Louisvilleslugger got a crush on Pac, quit riddin Pacs d*ck. You sound like a clown. Michael Jackson sold more than James Brown but whos better? JAMES. Pac sold WAY more than Rakim but whos better? RAKIM. E-40 is a better Mc than Pac too, hes more versatile got more game and got way more hustle, EVERY baller in the game bumps some 40 water. Question, If Pac was alive and dropped his boxers would you sucK??? Keep it real now. LOL
@hurtmebad--> L.L.'s old *** hasn't even sold more than Pac! But he's sold more than Biggie! Lyrically 2pac *** on Big, flow-wise Big *** on Pac! I and many other *** care more about content than flow! Sorry! And as far as a class it ain't no rumor, ma nicca! It's real, VH1 has the link!
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And as far as jail time, do you honestly think they would put a celebrity in general population? Cmon, nicca! Talk about rumors that is some *** made up by Wendy Williams! Nicca you need to step your fact game up! We dealing wit facts here, ma nicca.
For all you young heads screamin Nas/Pac etc. Peep Rakims ill flow in the last year banger with Kanye. the DOPEST LYRIC on the track came from Rakim. Nas cant see him OR BIG
"Age dont count in the booth/as long as ya flow stay submerged in the fountain of youth"
NOW THATS FIYA!
http://tw.youtube.com/watch?v=UDCDrcZK4NE
People People! Album sales never equate to rhyme skills! If that is the case than Vanilla Ice was the best when he came out with "Ice Ice Baby" See how stupid that sounds??
Staypoppin: The 8 million in NY you are referring to was an outdated estimate of the population of NYC...not NY State BK LAtina: I have seen you post before and you are very knowledgeable in Hip Hop...I will see you next lifetime. I didn't want to turn this into a West- East thing so I kept B.I.G. out of the convo. For the record, Pac was from Baltimore, MD contradictions: Wrote Dear Momma then arrested for rape Born in the East and represented the West Which way was this dude going? The hype, controversy, bad blood talk and his eventual death made him bigger than he was and it translated to record sales
Dudes who were or are better than Big or Pac: Kool G Rap KRS ONE Nas Rakim Buckshot Big Daddy Kane Common (especially in the Common Sense days) Big Pun - Dudes who know one knows that won't go platinum but can or did spit just as good:
Phonte (Little Brother) Elzhi (formerly of Slum Village) Murs Planet Asia Redman (before the weed) Black Thought (The Roots)
Hurtmebad--->You are dik riding Biggie so hard I know your *** is sore. This article was about Pac being overrated, but you road Biggie's dik all the way into the conversation! Must have been his *** boy!
You listening to some lame as E-40 says enough about your concept of music ***! I'm sure you got some lil bow wow and soulja boy too, huh? Lame *** ***!
HURTEMBAD Flag post So what NO Rapper has put out or sold more than L.L so is he the best? NOPE. All I'm saying is that lyrically Pac cant see Big and he CANT. ALL MCS say that. Does Pac have a better voice, better beats better songs? YEP -keepin it real. But how is Pac real? Who has he ever killed? Robbed? Beat up? I seen him stomp out a cat in the casino with Suge but come on now. NOBODY has yet to present any PROOF about this so called Pac class lol (rumor) Real cats can handle doin time, how come Pac was squirmin? How come he DID ANYTHING TO GET OUT (In Pacs words) YALL KNOW WHY, he was gettin sexed up. If thats what you guys call REAL I dont wanna be real. *********************************************** You talkin out yo *** mayne! You a fool if you think Lip Lickin Cool J has sold more records than any other rapper! Show me some proof!
Hurtmebad--> You pole hopping now *** from Big to Rakim! *** use is a lame as ***. The class existed nicca! Has biggie EVER had a class with his name on that ***? Hell to the *** NO!
Here is yet another UNIVERISTY!
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I'm done w/ you nicca my dikk is sore you can hop off!
@STRESSONSMASH
u talkin bout ice ice baby, BUT thats the song NOT THE ALBUM! dont separate the song from the *** album! albums may not equate 2 rhyme skills, but that not the point! if ppl aint buyin yo *** THEN U ARE WACK! WHY ARENT YALL GETTIN THIS! RAPPERS GET THEIR CAREERS POPPIN BY PPL BUYIN THEIR ***! SIMPLE AS THAT! HOW CAN U CALL URSELF THAT BEST IF PPL DONT BUY YO ***?!
Big was ill but never on Pac's level. Pac was a leader and he was going to start a new goverment type ***, I believe part of that is why he got killed too. He was 8 levels abopve everyone especially big. How you gonna compare big's rhymes....laugh now, cry later, I rhyme greated then the average playahater to pac's rhymes:
Murder murder my mind state, *** ain't changed since my last rhyme - the crime rate ain't decline *** bustin *** like they lost they mind Like twenty-five to life never crossed they mind Tell me young *** never learned a thang Dead at thirteen cause he yearned to bang Sniffed a lot of flowers, but how could I cry Tried to warn the little *** either stop or die Mercy is for the weak when I speak I scream Afraid to sleep; I'm havin crazy dreams Vivid pictures of my enemies, family times God to forgive me cause it's wrong but I plan to die Need to take me in heaven and understand I was a sheep Did the best I could, raised in insanity Or send me to hell cause I ain't beggin for my life Ain't nuttin worse than this cursed-*** hopeless life; I'm troublesome
Pac died BROKE, he didnt have his rights to his masters, he was a musical novice in regards to the business. He couldnt act (peep the fight scene with Joe Torre is Poetic Justice- CANT FIGHT A LICK). Why you gettin brittle Louisville slugger? Hit a nerve? For the record I said RAKIM is the best not biggie. Can you read?
Louisvillesslugger got a 10 d*ck a day habit! *** drunk *** tryin to talk crazy to me. Boy you must done lost yo mind, *** *** Junkie. You talk a lot of mess for somebody who just got out the joint. They found his finger prints on another mans d*ck, he got arressted for Possession of SWOLLEN PROPERTY. Betta leave me alone boy I aint him. lol
Rapists defend Rapists lol
i agree wit blender...pac was a nobody untill digtial underground..where he was a dancer....didnt get 2 rap till late afta dancin and he was thru carryin around there equipment...so all that ra ra gangsta talk is foul...but people take sum lyrics (which were great) and wanna say he was the realist 2 ever bless the mic...he didnt get charges till afta death row...he wasnt actin a fool till afta death row...now i dont kno what he was doin b4 hand and netha do none of us that listen 2 his music or watch mtv bet etc etc...but if we strcitly going on what we c *** hear...he wasnt a thug no tats and glocc and dope till afta death row...u cant be a super thug dancing around doin tha humpty switch labels and all of a sudden u a killa ...if u get pushed.....lol..lol..now compare him 2 wayne..folks hate on wayne ...and i can pull a mill a milli of his fans that kno every *** lyric and would consider his earliest of work hot boys...to 500 dgree( which was garbage) to go dj (wit fresh) and all of tha carters as classic.,..so what makes pac more real or betta rapper than pac...wayne came out young and had flags on and tatted up and talkin bout murkin folks neva a dancer...but ol heads will say he garbage...and young heads that dont kno pac say wayne tha best.......now on 2 biggie....he put out sum classic $hit...he wasnt as pro blacc as pac but he spit what was real 2 him...and he came out gangsta..remeber early vids where he had golds...checc tha vid wit him puff and super cat...he never was a bacc up dancer...so my question is what is real vs studio ...what makes a rapper great.......tha answer is ya *** opinion....i will say eli from iron mic challange is tha best...ha ha ha
*** this topic is gettin a lil heated heavy but anybody tryna play Pac and act like Big was any different is outta they mind. Big was a gimmick his *** self I doubt he did half the s**t he rapped about in his songs...So Big wasn't no thug neither and most likely his Big ol behind was Puffy's B***h spreadin for Puffy's "Take That Take That" a**...So he's no different. Now back to the main subject...Big was fire he spit straight off the dome and his flow was hard BUT he didn't have no substance to his lyrics and he didn't have the "Passion" for the arts like Pac did Pac loved his craft all his writings that he left behind was deep he might of acted ignorant in front of the camera but by no means was he...He was a deep hearted creative brother like if you's read some of the s**t Pac wrote you'll possibly cry cause it'll hit so close to home. Big on the other had was talkin bout kickin in doors wavin 4.4's...and...daddies lookin so good he'll suck they d**k...UUUUUHHHHHH!?!?! WTF is that?! Anyways...Big was hot in a different way then Pac but Pac's mind was amazing the contents that filled his mind was on a whole nother level and wrote about LIFE. So I say Pac got him on creativity, versatility and spirituality in his lyrics AND he got lyrics for days mofo still comin out wit s**t. Can we get some more Pac s**t posted up cause them Pac lyrics posted was DEEEEP! PAC NAS & RAKIM are the Philosophers of Hip Hop spittin THE TRUTH...the rest are jus followers! Go Figure.....
@hurtmebad-->ROFLMAO You dedicated a whole post to me, and not to defending your position? You must really like men's dikks sense you dedicated an entire post to them:
HURTEMBAD Flag post Louisvillesslugger got a 10 d*ck a day habit! *** drunk *** tryin to talk crazy to me. Boy you must done lost yo mind, *** *** Junkie. You talk a lot of mess for somebody who just got out the joint. They found his finger prints on another mans d*ck, he got arressted for Possession of SWOLLEN PROPERTY. Betta leave me alone boy I aint him. lol
Rapists defend Rapists lol
--------------------------------- You must be one of those closet *** boys, cause you looking real feminine right now.
Dang, is it that serious?
I AGREE WITH STRESSONMASH... Pac was from B-More and represented the West. All the sales came from CONTROVERSY (50 cent) Lyrically, TO ME, PAC could not flow the way BIGGIE did! PAC was fake to me. I do believe that he had some skills, but i could not get with him. Whenever I heard all 57,000 songs he did, I just couldn't visualize what he was saying. To me he was just another DISRESPECTFUL rapper. But this is just my OPINION!!! For real there is no great debate cuz there were PLENTY of other rappers before the both of them came out. THANK YOU BROOKLYN LATINA!!!!!
STAYPOPPIN01 it was called Notorious THUGS!!!
One word that explain the greatness of TUPAC is his versatility, his writing skills the metaphors,similes. Pac could give you positive song and then he would give you a club song, follow up with a thug song and then show up at the spoken word and say several poems . There's a Pac song for every situation. Every time TUPAC in mention east coast folks want to bring up WEST COAST sounding BIGGIE. His sound was not a tradition east coast sound nor was his tracks. Biggie was a great rapper also but Pac was far more intelligent and his lyrics had more depth. I know people today that think "ME AND GIRL" song is a song about Pac and his female girlfriend but it a song about his gun being his girlfriend. Not too mention how he murder Biggie and that little group he had I can't remember the name of the group in the song Hit'em up. Rakim is great but Biggie and Rakim are rappers that rap in one style and one style only. My opinion to be greatest you must have VERSATILITY your lyrics must have substances speak about other thing beside drug dealing and weed smoking. If any of you need more clarification on the lyrics of PAC you can take a college course to look more in depth at his lyrical skills content. People questions Pac being a thug. Stupid A$$ these rappers are in character you know like Scar Face, Superman , Batman these are all people that portray an image. If people think these Rapper rap about their true life your a FOOL. The things that are said in these raps these rapper would have already received the electric chair. I wish they were both here making music. Miss them both........
i kind of agree with wayne.i wasnt or that in to 2pac when he was here.i liked the music but he wasnt iconic to me. but i was younger and in to my school more then music. but that usually goes for anyone who has past away. you learn a lot more about people when their gone. that's why we need to spread the love to our loved ones while their still here before its to late.
Hurtembad,
Only people from New York or from up North think that Biggie was the GOAT. When in reality his material can't hold a candle to Pac's.
Pac messed up by hanging around the wrong crowd. It woulda been better if he'd never met Suge but he was the one to get him out of jail.
And it doesn't make you a man to get locked up. It makes you ignorant or it's sad if you didn't commit the crime.
What grown man really wants to do time? That's not street cred, that's foolishness.
I do NOT want a man who's done time. Sorry, but that's not at the top of my list of qualities I want in a man.
Pac wasn't a gimic, so he didn't have to sell music off of getting *** 5 times. He sold records because he music was good.
He was a poet, and nobody had the lyrical content that he had. Nobody. That's why so many rappers tried to bite his style. Whether they wanted to look like him or redo his songs. He was the best. Even biggie copied from Pac in doing music for ladies.
Pac was also a social activist. He was the leader of the Junior Black Panther Party. That's why he was able to rap about things of importance.
Only ignorant people think that you're a great rapper if you've done time. That's crazy. Now, you *** make mess up, but that doesn't make you a great rapper or a man for that matter.
Pac is the only rapper that has books of poetry and classes at Harvard and other Ivy league institutions about his life and music.
And lil Wayne might not have been into Pac 'cause he was really young. I'm only a year older than him but I was enthralled with Pac's music at a young age.
I always said Nas was the best thing after Pac, and I love Common. But Nobody is better than Pac.
Oh yeah, Biggie did lack substance in his lyrics and he also was disrespectful. But I just liked his sound. I just didn't like pac. But I do know he was far more intelligent than most. He was a very good story teller, but he wasn't a good rapper. Actually, him and big were on 2 different levels. But I did used to listen to the underground music that Big had w/Pac before both of them hit main stream. No matter what era you are from, you know MUSIC when you hear it. So to say Lil Wayne is the greatest rapper is ***!! T.I. is better than some Wayne slurred speech, lollipop lickin, azz! But back to BIG and PAC, guess they were great at what they did. BIGs Career Was CUT ***!!!
All Imma say is "*** YO MOUTH" speaking on THE GREATEST---PAC!! All these back and forth arguments, comparisons of record sales and statistics is STRAIGHT RIDICOLOUS and Yah Know it! If you felt PAC---then he WAS THE GREATEST to YOU. POINT BLANK PERIOD. You can't GENERALIZE your OPINIONS as some GENERAL CONSENSUS. All yah---tryna be FAKE A$$ HIP HOP Journalist----NEED to *** that NONSENSE UP!
F*%*** What yah SCREAMIN!
TUPAC 4LYFE!!!
Hell MARY!!!!
AurieLove
U know! I hate when the geat debate of "best rapper" comes along and people act like Rap started in the '90's lol!!!
***. I said it once and I'll say it again, no one has impressed me as much as Rakim has. He is one of the best F of all time. And the rest of the old school generation like Gangstarr, Main Source (Live at the BBQ) Mobb Deep, Kool Moe D, Big Daddy Kane, Nasty Nas, KRS 1, etc and lets not forget my girl MC Lyte who IMO was the best FEMALE rapper of all time, she could hang w/ the big boys!
Hurtembad...
dude you are the sofest squarest nicca on this site....
2pac was better than Big... Period!!!
sales come from controversy?
okay...
" instead of having a war on poverty they got a war on drugs so the police could bother me"
im with the rest of the world pac was the G.O.A.T...
only NY cats would differ... and pac never said *** the East...
They are right....And that is not to trash Tupac....He was an above average rapper with a TON of charisma...
On the basis of sheer lyrical ability he is nowhere near the talent of cats like KRS, Rakim, Big, Nas, Jay.....Hell hes not even on the level of the next level of cats...Raekwon, Black Thought, Kweli, Resurrection era Common....
Tupac has an ability to charm and connect with people in his music....He is to hip-hop what Mary J is to R&B...Mary doesn't have a great voice...She is not even in the top 100 when it comes to singing ability....But her music connects with and moves people and she has that Charisma....So without discounting the love people have for Pac, as a rapper, he was overrated.
@Lyle, If I'm soft thats cause I just got through skeetin in ya moms (gotta talk to people on their level) and aint nothin square about me CEPT my Birth Certificate! Pac was a basic rapper, I said that and he was. Big had lyrics, but I'll say it again, Rakim is the best.
@Latina, You forgot MELLY MEL! Oh and I have to disaree, I think the best female rapper hands down was ***. She dissed McLyte, Latifah, Yo Yo, all the top Mcs and she went head up with Boogie Down Productions (Krs-One you need to go on vacation/ with that name sounding like a wack radio station, and she also dissed UTFO. She battled men, she had heart. But Mclyle had that female Rakim flow, she was nice.
If it wadnt for Pac puttin Big on, Big wouldnt have made it, ok I can agree with that, Pac did help Big get on ( I keep it real) but you HAVE to admit if it wadnt for Digital Underground Pac wouldnt have got on either. At least Biggie wadnt a stage hand/background dancer like Pac was. Big was a Dboy from Day 1. Big was a free styler, Pac had to write his material down, what takes more talent? FREESTYLING. But again, Rakim is the ILLEST. Weezy kills Pac too
I see no changes, all I see is racist faces Misplaced hate makes disgrace to races We under I wonder what it take to make this one better place, let's erase the wait state Take the evil out the people they'll be acting right Cause both black and white are smokin crack *** And only time we deal is when we kill each other It takes skill to be real, time to heal each other And though it seems heaven-sent We ain't ready, to have a black President, huh It ain't a secret don't conceal the fact The penitentiary's packed, and it's filled with blacks I wake up in the morning and I ask myself Is life worth living should I blast myself I'm tired of being poor and even worse I'm black My stomach hurts so I'm lookin for a purse to *** Cops give a *** about a ne-gro Pull a trigger kill a *** he's a hero Mo' n***a mo' n***a mo' n***az I'd rather be dead than a po' n***a Let the Lord judge the criminals If I die, I wonder if heaven got a ghetto
75 million album sold, 50 million sold in the US. They are token employees of Blender Magazine paid to contradict the greatness of TUPAC. Anyone that says Tupac was under rated I can't respect their opinion or their hip hop knownledge. Some of the Rappers they're claiming are better would not say their lyrics are better than TUPAC.
i never heard of blender magazine
neway to that person who said pac was 20% rhyme spitta u crazy i hear a pac line in almost every rap dats out he was very good lyrically most of his beats was wack but the words make u like the song and he was hella versitile not limited to only rap about the streets anything he made was good rather gangsta a song for da females a song for his mama somethin political theres noone else that has done or can do that so aint no way anyone can say he wasnt the greatest big was good but he was limited he couldnt rap about anything pac can make anything go
@ J I agree wit you 100% Pac's beats was wack he needed some east coast beats behind his lyrics and s**t woulda been a wrap. @HurtMeBad That was a verse from "I Wonder If Heaven Got A Ghetto" not "Changes"...and ya list was pretty good but I'm confused on who gets #1 outta Nas Pac & Rakim cause they all great to me BUT I'd have to say Rakim is my least favorite jus cause I wasn't listenin to him when he was out...but I was on to Nas & Pac.
[Tupac] Staring at the world through my rearview Just looking back at the world, from another level yaknowhatImean? Starin...
Multiple gunshots fill the block, the fun stops *** is callin cops, people ***, nobody stop I wonder when the world stopped caring last *** Two kids *** while the whole block staring I will never understand this society, first they try to murder me, then they lie to me, product of a dying breed All my homies trying weed, now the little baby's crazed raised off Hennesey, tell me will my enemies flee when they see me, believe me Even Thugs gotta learn to take it easy, listen Through the intermissions search your heart for a plan and we turnin Bad Boys to grown men, it's on again I give a holla to my *** in the darkest corners Roll a perfect blunt, and let me spark it for ya One love from a thug *** rollin with a posse full of paranoid drug dealers, to the end my friend
I'm seein nuttin but my dreams comin true While I'm starin at the world through my rearview (see) [repeat 2X]
(They got me) starin at the world through my rearview Go on baby scream to God, he can't hear you I can feel your heart beatin fast cause it's time to die (we) Gettin high, watchin time fly, and all my ***
@Boston, Yeah The Mob is puttin in work, we got our own website called BUSSAHEAD.COM dont be the next one to get his head put on flat.
No West Coast Rapper put it down on the Social tip like Ice Cube did. Pac stole his glory by refurbishing his concepts. Check out the Cube library, he was killin Pac. As I said East Coast Rappers didnt give West coast rappers no love till Cube came and put the West on the map. No rapper covered Rodney King, Oj, Emmitt Teal, Tawana, Darryl Gates etc Like Cube.
http://tw.youtube.com/watch?v=3ScLW8RiFLE&feature=related
Man, why can't Tupac be left alone... I mean seriously, people need to have some respect even if they didn't like 'pac. In my opinion, Tupac...was the best. All hands down. I never really was a fan of Biggie Smalls but I respect the dude, not only cause we're both from the same place but because he stood for a cause. Tupac wasn't no "gangsta". He may have made Hip-Hop/Rap music but that doesn't label him as a gangsta... I just believe Tupac tried to make the world a better place by sending us all his messages through his songs. Plus, he was also an activist in a way... Does that label him as a "gangsta" rapper? And Lil Wayne....*** up dude... just *** up, don't say anything.
It matters not to me what Blender or anyone else thinks of 'Pac....he was THE MAN. I would never have been into rap or hip hop without having first took the time to stop and really listen to the lyrics. Also, when rap first started, there was no music really to the lyrics. Tupac to me, was the first one, who incorporated music and artists who could sing and bring home the message he rapped about. As a singer - I listen to lyrics and music and voices - and the combination of 'Pac's rap lyrics, the chorus line, the music and the complete production of his masterpieces, is what finally attracted me, pulled me in to the hip hop culture. I'm 55 and I love this music!! Blender Magazine is published by Dennis Publishing. The magazine began in 1994 as the first digital CD-ROM magazine by Jason Pearson, David Cherry & Regina Joseph, acquired by Felix Dennis/Dennis Publishing, UK it published 15 digital CD issues, and launched on the web in 1997. What can you EXPECT from a publisher that wasn't even around until '94!!??? In addition, these folks hail from the UK (England). There is no real appreciation of Hip Hop in their writers. They certainly don't understand or know the relevance of our music and culture as well as the reason we need our own awards shows, etc. They can KICK ROCKS!
@ BrooklynLatina...I feel you...Rakim needs to have his props...No one has meant more to hip-hop.
Rakim and Nas are like evolution.....Rakim the originator, the greatest of his time, with Nas the one who came after, inspired by him and took the game to the next level...Kind of like Dr. J and Michael Jordan...People need to give Rakim his props because he single handedly raised the level of lyrisicm in hip hop...Listen to early 80's stuff before him (slower flows and deliveries) and the stuff that came after...Nas, Raekwon, Jay soooo many others point to The R as the man who inspired their flows.
Nas and Common took the game to the next level...As far as pure lyricism goes, Illmatic and Resurrection are two of the greatest exhibitions of pure lyrical skill ever recorded.
I will never forget when I first heard Nas on Live at the BBQ....I ran to the stereo and rewinded the tape back 3 times because the verse was so dope....
First off *** Blender... 2pac was the best to EVER did it. What b/c lil wayne didnt listen bc he was too busy listening to Birdman wack *** *** that hes overrated now?? *** that!!! 2pac was on the verge of having his career blow up... All eyes on me was the *** and 7 day theory is my favorite album of all time made while he was still alive people. Overrated my ***... Blender I didnt buy ur *** before I def aint buying it now... *** idiots... Dont disrespect the best to ever do it.
ps you dont know ***...
GET EM LATINA, Their hip hop knowledge goes back maybe 10 years, they got Pac on the mind, all they see is Pac lol. You are correct in what you say, also Treacherous 3 (Yes we can) incorporated r&b, UTFO (Roxanne Roxanne,Fairytale Lover,You Cold wanna be with me and others) and Grandmaster Flash (White Lines). These guys aint ready
@esotericdredz, Thats the point, WE (Myself, You and Latina) listen to LYRICS, these youngstas listen to CUSS WORDS. A rapper says "MF" thats HOT to them. They got a modern day lyricist in papposse but they sleep on him because he has substance, these ignorant kids dont want substance they want artificial MC's, ones who keep the education to a minimal. I GUARANTEE they will say Pac is a better lyracist than Pap. This is the level of IGNORANCE
Listen to FAIR ONE, PAP Murders Fat Joe. Hes not on Rakims Level but hes one of the best Modern Mcs
http://tw.youtube.com/watch?v=NKfnxmZHExo
Yo and anyone who says Biggie was better then Pac is out ur god *** mind... Biggie had two albums that were good hes career was too *** to be better or compared really. 94 to 97 ppl Pac was around in 91 to 96 wit a bunch of albums plus Big was afraid of Pac never dissed back bc he would lose... and for the haters THUG LIFE was a movement to get equal rights for blacks. Pick up a *** book. BIGs lyrics were hott but dont touch Pacs... Stop making *** up in ur mind and actually listen to both artists and you will see the truth...
2Pac ***...
@HurtMeBad Papoose is definitely under rated he does speak the truth I don't know why he don't get that much burn BUT maybe he's missin the passion and conviction in his flow or tone...somethin...but he don't get the recognition that he deserves. But Pap is fire too he speaks the truth...can't forget about Pap.
FIRST OF ALL, ALL OF YOU TUPAC HATERS FROM NY PLEASE GO JUMP IN THE HUDSON AND MAKE SURE YOU DIE A SLOW DEATH!! WHAT DO YOU MEAN HE WAS 80% IMAGE AND NOT A REAL RAPPER AND A FAKE GANGSTER? YOU FOOLS YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND ALL OF THAT IS WHAT MAKES YOU A GREAT RAPPER!!! SO LET ME GET THIS STRAIT BIGGIE AND KRS-1 ARE BETTER BUT YET NOBODY CARES ABOUT ONE OF THEM AND PAC WAS MORE POPULAR AND OUT SOLD BOTH OF THEM PUT TOGETHER, BUT YET PAC IS OVERRATED?? PACS PERSONALITY IS WHAT MADE HIM INTO WHO HE WAS AND THAT IS A GOOD THING NOT A NEGATIVE THING. PEOPLE CHANGE UP THE GAME ALL THE TIME.. EVERYBODY LIKES LL AND CHANGED UP HIS GAME..JAY Z HAS PRETTY MUCH KEPT THE SAME STYLE AND CAN NO LONGER SELL RECORDS...WHO IN THIS DAY AND AGE CAN SELL MORE ALBUMS DEAD THAN THEY CAN ALIVE? THE RAPPERS THAT NEED TO BE ON THIS OVERRATED LIST ARE *** LIKE CHINGY, BOW WOW, JD, E-40 COME ON MAN GET REAL! PAC WAS THE *** NUFF SAID!
@ HurtMeBad...I co-sign 100%
It reminds me of The Listening by Little Brother (another group reppin' it for real hip-hop)
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Music was my sanctuary so I take a long listen To hip hop living out my life in songs wishin My parents I could get along with them So I would go inside my room and dig deep inside the strong rhythms Back when fresh was the word, and raw was on prism Marley on the boards, plus Kane was long livin G rap and A spittin murderous Bought long live the kane sat down and learned every word of it Sneakin my walkman in the homeroom playin it Listen for punchlines delivery and cadences But nowadays it's like ***!ggaz wanna play with it They hear some good *** but don't stop to savor it Like one *** we was out in my whip With some broads just chillin playin demos and *** Asked 'em how I sounded rockin the mike One chick told me all she listened to was beats, thank god for 9th Trying to get pressed on vinyl cause muh'*** buy your CD But turn around don't even know your song titles Like track 2 is hot, and track 6 is long Ain't even listening, I'm hoping I get through to y'all
[chorus]
This is a message for our people chasing benjamins With real rhymes and skills they believing in Keeping them bad tapes rolling like michellin it don't matter, cause ***!ggaz ain't listening They ain't listening, they thinkin bout they timbalands They say the *** we talk about ain't interestin We got a better chance of blowing up in switzerland Holla if you hear it cause ***!ggaz ain't listening
anyone that says tupac is not the illest or @ least one of the illest is a dumb Bi0tch. West coast all day. biggy is cool but im from the west side & u and i both know its the best side!
oh yeah someone mentioned pac was from NY well thats true and that shows you how hard cali really goes he could have been talking bout son and all that otha *** east coast *** be talking bout, but instead he got that cali swag!!! WEST SIDE
WHY ARE PEOPLE CONSTANTLY COMPARING BIG TO PAC, I KNOW HE CAME ALONG AND HELD NEWYORK DOWN BECAUSE WESTCOAST WAS WHOOPIN YALL *** IN THE 90'S BUT THAT DONT MAKE HIM BETTER THAN PAC, HIS TRACK RECORD CANT EVEN TOUCH PAC'S, ARE YOU SERIOUS? I AINT HATIN ON BIG OR NEWYORK BUT THE ONLY REASON HE EVEN GETS COMPARED TO PAC WAS BECAUSE OF HOW THEY DIED OTHER THAN THAT ALL THAT COMPARISON *** NEEDS TO STOP. LIKE SOMEONE SAID EARLIER, BIG HAD NY, PAC HAD THE WHOLE US. GET OVER IT. THE MOST OVERRATED ARTIST IS ELVIS. THE MOST OVERRATED RAPPER IS LIL' WAYNE. GET IT RIGHT FOLKS!
There's gonna' be some stuff that your gonna' see That's gonna' make it hard to smile in the future (No Doubt) But whatever you see, through all the rain and pain You gotta keep a sense of humor Gotta be able to smile through all this *** Remember that Just keep ya head up
Our lifesytles be closed caption Addicted to fatal attractions Pictures and actions be played back In the midst of mashin' No fairytales for this young black male Some see me stranded in this land of Hell Jail and crack cells culture Or the repercussion While bustin' on back-stabbing vultures Sellin' my soul For material wishes Fast cars and b****es Wishin' I live my life a legend Immortalized in pictures Why shed tears, save your sympathy My childhood years Was spent burying my peers in the cemetary Here's a message to the newborns Waiting to breath: "If you believe then you can achieve, just look at me" Against all odds Though life is hard, we carry on Living in the projects Broke with no lights on To all the G's that follow me Protect your essence Born with less but your still precious Just smile for me now
Chours: Ohhh Won't you smile for me (2Pac: Jus smile for me now) Ohhh Won't you smile for me (N***a you black, smile for me now) Ohhh Won't you smile for me (You ain't got nothin' to worry about) (Smile for me now) Ohhh Won't you smile for me (and the next generation)
F**k tha world As we unload, we witness furious speeds Un-answered questions keep us all stressin' Curious G's Back stabbed and bleeding Crooked thoughts Laced with weed Learnin', duckin' stray *** *** be hot They burnin' Inhale the sherm smoke Visualize the flames Will I be smothered by my own pain? Strange wisdoms Cowards conversate' So quick to dis' us Takin' pictures for the Feds In desperate hopes they get us Hit us all, give us plenty centuries Forgive my stance Sense I entered many penitentiaries The best revenge Is f**k friends We milatary minded souljahs Bustin' *** blindly Trying to find Jehovah To help me Somebody save me Lost and crazy Scared to drop a seed Hopin' I ain't cursed babies Maybe now N***az feel me now Picture my pain Embrace my words Make the world change And still I smile n***a
IS NOT NOT EMPOWERING & UPLIFTING? I LOVE 2PAC HEARING THIS SONG ALWAYS MAKES ME SMILE...I'M SMILIN NOW :-)
SOMEONE SAID LIK WAYNE WAS OVER-RATED AND I AGREE. IT IS LIKE THE RAP GAME WAS LOOKING FOR SOMEBODY AND WAYNE CHANGED HIS FLOW UP TO FILL THAT VOID BUT IT WAS PUTTING A SQUARE PEG IN A ROUND HOLE. ANYONE OUT THERE WHO LOVES REAL HIP HOP CANNOT LOOK FOR IT ON THE RADIO NOWADAYS...OR EVEN TOO MUCH ON MIXTAPES BECAUSE PAYOLA IS TARGETTING SOME OF THOSE DJ-S. I FIND PEOPLE ALL THE TIME BY DOWNLOADING AND ASSOCIATION. FOR EXAMPLE: 1.I WENT TO A LITTLE BROTHER CONCERT AND HEARD THE OPENING ACTS: PSALM ONE AND BROTHER ALI 2. DOWNLOAD AND YOUTUBE ANYTHING I CAN FIND ON THOSE ARTISTS 3. LOOK UP THEIR PRODUCERS AND WHO THEY ROLL WITH AND BOOM! UNDERGROUND MUSIC UNEARTHED.
IF IT IS NOT OLD SCHOOL, GOLDEN AGE HIP HOP....THAT IS WHERE I GET MY MUSIC FROM NOWADAYS. THERE IS VERY LITTLE WORTH LISTENING TO MAINSTREAM ON ANOTHER NOTE....A LOT OF MY FAVORITE ARTISTS COME OUT WITH ALBUMS AND THERE IS NO ADVERTISING, NO PUBLICITY, NO PROMOTION....LL WAS RIGHT...WHAT THE HELL IS JAY-Z DOING OVER THERE AT DEF JAM??
HURTMEBAD: I WILL GIVE YOU THAT! RASS KASS IS A GIFTED INDIVIDUAL. WHICH BRINGS ME TO ANOTHER POINT: THE BEST RAPPERS NEVER REALLY SOLD THE MOST RECORDS BEFORE JAY CAME ALONG. PAC SOLD MORE DEAD JUST LIKE DAVINCI AND PICASSO'S PAINTINGS BECAME MORE VALUABLE POST-MORTEM. HE WAS GOOD AND EXTREMELY INFLUENTIAL BUT IF I HAD A GUN TO MY HEAD AND HAD TO PICK THE TOP 10 LYRICISTS OF ALL TIME...I WOULD NOT COME CLOSE TO MENTIONING HIS NAME.
80s_made_me
I agree (some) NY nyggas gas that nygga up way too much! His lyrical content was average at best, but his delivery was phenomenal. With him it was style over substance, Pac was the opposite. He dropped songs like Brenda Got A Baby, Who Do You Believe In, Smile, So Many Tearz, Dear Momma, Changes, etc., etc. that Biggie can't *** wit even on his best day!
first blender, you need to put your mags. in the blender. PAC is the best all round hip hop artist ever.. Pac is a leader that alot of these heavyweight rapper looked up too. Pac start singing alittle in his song ,since then big, 50, jay-z even LIL wayne, start doing it. He ways sweeter around than BIG. BIG was a hell of a rapper but not a full artist. THat why you dont have no DEAR MAMA, and brenda"s got a baby from BIG. see as a person, i want to feel something that relates to the world, SOMETHING REAL!!! PAC made you think when you listen to certain song from him,.. BIG needed alittle more time to developed into a full artist, time to write more song of substance,classic in any genre of music. PAC is in a class of his own. and that why he sell more now. and please stop mention BIG name everytime you mention PAC, and vice versa THey both sweet in their own right, and dont hate the brotha pac cause he had charistma.. PLUS BLENDER YOU FROM THE UK, AS A MAGAZINE YOU AIN BOUT TO TELL ME SH-- BOUT PAC OR ANY OTHER HIP HOP ARTIST.. CASE CLOSED, SHALOM!!
I HATE READING SH-T LIKE THIS CAUSE IT MAKES ME MADDER THAN A ***!! (2PAC) OVERRATED? YEAH ***-ING RIGHT!! WHO EVER AGREE WITH THAT ***-T IS *** CAUSE (PAC) WAS THAT DUDE AND ALWAYS WILL BE CAUSE WHEN HE'S ON THE MIC: YOU LISTEN TO EVERY WORD. WHEN HE'S BEING INTERVIEWED: YOU LISTEN TO EVERY WORD. WHY? CAUSE HE RAPPED AND TALKED REAL SH-T SO "BELIEVE THE HYPE" HE WAS AND STILL IS THE GREATEST RAPPER OF HIS ERA FROM THE 90's AND TO THIS DAY SO STOP WITH THE COMPARING.
Biggie gets mad props because he is the original who didn't need a pen & a pad everything Big spit was straight off the dome on the spot...Jay Z & Wayne try to act like they don't write when they do...they tryna copy Big. Biggie didn't write and that's impressive to people when someone can jus spit a rhyme at the drop of a dime and not stutter of f**k up jus straight flow...So I guess that's why people sweat Big or whatever...cause he was one of a kind in his own lil way too...jus not on Pac's creative level.
I UNDERSTAND THAT EVERYBODY HAS THEIR OWN OPINION AND I DEFINETLY UNDERSTAND THAT BECAUSE OF THEIR BEEF AND UN-SOLVED DEATHS...(PAC) AND (BIGGIE) NAMES WILL ALWAYS GO TOGETHER BUT ON THE MUSIC SIDE OF THIS SH-T! THERE *** BE NOTHING TO ARGUE ABOUT, TALK OR DISCUSS CAUSE THEY DON'T EVEN COMPARE (PAC) WAS WAY BETTER.
I actually agree. I think Tupac was cool but he didn't compare to Biggie. I think that Tupac definitely had the rapping voice, but that's about it. Kinda like Eazy E had the voice, but that was it. I feel that there are many other rappers who would crush Tupac in battle. I do truly miss him, but he was overrated. Just my opinion
Yes! Yes!! Blender magazine is correct- They hated Tupac's trashy *** until he died. He was a rapist and a thug- But when he dies. He is a poet and a genius. He went from thug nicca to genius. Also, that black *** Biggie was no genius. he was a pitch black wanna be thug. He was no poet. Tupac is OVERATED- I loved his music but the truth is he was a rapist thug
I think people from the EastCoast may be a bit biased when it comes to this and Pac because of the so-called beef with Biggie...No Pac wasn't the greatest lyricist but to call him the most overrated ARTIST of all time is *in my best Mike Tyson voice* ***...People have always loved Pac here waaay before he was killed...People used to rush home from school to watch Rap City because of Pac...
You can't deny that Rakim is the best...But seriously, Pac the most overrated artist of all time? Give me a break...And while Nas is my favorite rapper, he was inspired by both Pac and Rakim...and to this day, still reference Pac in his music...Black President anyone?
Even 50 *** that line in "In Da Club" I want'em to love me like they loved Pac"...*** blew up and he blew up...
TO: (smackdat) ONE THING I KNOW IS DEFINETLY NOT OVERRATED IS YO AZZ...LOL. FROM 1 TO 10, YOU GET A 10. With That Being Said Now I Can State My Opinion. When I Think Of The Word OVERRATED, There's 3 People That Come To Mind And PAC Is Not One Of Them. The 3 I Think Is OVERRATED Is BIGGIE, JAY-Z & LIL WAYNE.
*sings*
Only God can judge me, is that right? (Only God can judge me now) Only God baby, nobody else, nobody else All you other motherfcukers get out my business
He said it. Get out his business. Bye haters!! Tupac is not over-rated. And no, he was no rapist, he was just "judged" by the public. Just because you read a headline on the news "Rapper Tupac Shakur convicted of blah blah blah" ***!T!!! Who you gonna believe?? The news? They make mistakes...and lots of them. The system and the media together has ALWAYS dropped sh!t on celebs. They love to label.
Blender loves to do that - let very skilled writers attack other people who aren't as prolific. But here's what they don't get - THEY ARE MERELY JUDGING THE ABILITY (or lack thereof) TO WRITE AND MUSIC IS ABOUT MUCH MORE THAN THE LYRICS! They've attacked icons in other cultures as well - Paul McCartney and Sting.
@staypoppin
Pac in my opinion have tight lyrics, a deep story teller, and it was more on some getting you to feel that ish your heart. To me that was his gift. Biggie ran ***.Y. Pac ran the United States. ------------------------------------------------- Nuff said...More people can relate to PAC and feel him because he had more variety...Biggie he was good no doubt, but has more of a NY fan base than worldwide...Biggie was not bumping like PAC Im sorry...everyone is entiled to their own opinion and thats mine...PAC ALLDAY LONG BABY!
@boston617....i will agree wit u..jus 2 say this...if big wasnt ill till pac put him on then i give my props 2 digitall underground cus they put on pac...
@erbody who think pac was a great LEADER ra ra ra....how can u build up tha blacc community then tear it down...lets b real...if we talk bout lyrics..then its bacc *** forth all day...but if we bring in sum real facts...he would yes up lift us and then tear us down..he made classic up liftin songs but then would set us bacc like coons....2 b the leader of the jr blacc panther party but then smoke, spend ya money on clotes and bs...then talk down 2 tha blacc woman...what r u really sayin...a bunch of $hit
What is Dis Magazine talkn bout 2pac is overrated *** please and then pple sayn how he fake cuz he said *** da east cuz he from ***.y. when he got *** up almost died in new york and no body from new york cared about him when biggie was da one behind i would say *** ***.Y. 2 what rapper you know could switch up his music name a whos smarter pac vocabulary is betta than pac and if he aint die no body whould be talkn about biggie cuz it would've been like 50 and ja rule or 50 and fat joe lil wayne saying he was never a fan of 2pac if 2pac was alive he wouldnt even be rapper cuz pac wouldve been finish duke career man stop playn
@ hurtmebad @Louisvilleslugger got a crush on Pac, quit riddin Pacs d*ck. You sound like a clown. Michael Jackson sold more than James Brown but whos better? JAMES. Pac sold WAY more than Rakim but whos better? RAKIM. E-40 is a better Mc than Pac too, hes more versatile got more game and got way more hustle, EVERY baller in the game bumps some 40 water. Question, If Pac was alive and dropped his boxers would you sucK??? Keep it real now. LOL ------------------------------------------------- E-40 better than Pac? STOP IT WOULD CHA! U JUST LOST ALL CREDIBILITY TO YOUR DEBATE BABY...I like "drought season" by e-40 but he is no comparison to what PAC has put out!
May God rest both of their souls (Pac & Biggie). Memphis Tn by way of Shelbyville Tn by way of TACOMA WASHINGTON BABY!
Oh and quit acting like yall wasn't doing the humpty hump! Yeahhhhhhhhhh
@hurtmebad
Weezy kills Pac too... -------------------------------------------------
AGAIN YOUR CREDIBILITY IS ***...I LIKE WAYNE DONT GET ME WRONG BUT COME ON THOSE "DOPED UP" LYRICS AINT HELPING NO ONE...PAC ATLEAST RAPPED ABOUT SOME REAL STUFF...STOP IT WOULD CHA?! WEEZY BETTER THAN PAC...I GUESS T.I IS BETTER THAN PAC TOO RIGHT?
LORD HELP US! LOL
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Do you all realize all you are doing is arguing over two different men, as well that TIRED *** Coast fight. Most West Coasters love Pac, and most hollerin for Biggie is a East Coaster.
People, we live completely different lives depending on where we maintain, plain and simple. The things that Pac RAPPED about were real and trust, very relevant in the West. He was a complex man with many facets. He never denied that. T.H.U.G Life was a turned into a GANGSTER thing after the mainstream news gave it that classification.
The truth? ...
The. Hate. U. Give
Little. Infants. ***. Everyone.
He saw so many things in his life, born to an imprisioned Black Panther mother to running the streets of some of the poorest areas of the Bay Area ALONE, no mom or dad. D.U took a chance on a dude who was hungry. Period. They started showing him the industry, where to go and what to do. Pac said he found his game in the West, in the Bay to be exact. So what? He wasn't talkin bout Eff NY until after dude gets caught up on a RAPE charge, meanwhile getting *** up one day before getting his *** carted off to jail ... all in the same place. NEW YORK. Do you blame the man? Seriously?
Granted Biggie was far superior when it came to Lyrical flow .. Now call me crazy, you guys say when he went to Death Row, he became gangster but if you LISTEN, I mean really listen, to So Many Tears, you will hear it in his voice, where the change was already beghinning. But So Many Tears is on Me Against The World. Produced by Shock G ...
And please do NOT act like ya'll weren't lsitenin to the Humpty if not that, Freaks of The Industry. C'Mon now.
He was incredibly intelligent, flamboyant, charasmatic, beautiful smile .. He could contradict himself in a heartbeat but usually when we've seen so many sides it could become easy to feel that way at 20 - 25 years old.
Why do we continue to argue about this *** still?
Opinions are what makes the world go round!
@STRESSONSMASH
HE WAS GOOD AND EXTREMELY INFLUENTIAL BUT IF I HAD A GUN TO MY HEAD AND HAD TO PICK THE TOP 10 LYRICISTS OF ALL TIME...I WOULD NOT COME CLOSE TO MENTIONING HIS NAME. ------------------------------------------------ And they would probably put your finger on the trigger so you could KILL YO'SELF...im not knocking anyones opinion but dayum the majority would have PAC on their top 10, come on now!
This is getting good! One of the best threads in a while hell i was tired of Beyonce and Obama...and PALIN!
If I said it once I said it twice. NY ***!ggas ride Biggies *** two *** hard for two *** albums (3 altogether)! Pac's *** wannabe clone ***, fake *** ***!gga, JaRule, moved more albums than Biggie! Why? Because this ***!gga copied everything about Pac, but he was/is just a cheap imitation! But he still moved records, pre the 50 cent beef! Who copying Biggie? Gorilla Black or some sh!t? *** outta here.
AND one more thing before i go...why does it matter that he was with Digital Underground as a back up dancer, carrying equipment, etc...its called paying dues...getting your foot in the door...networking...HELLO!
LOL, if you kiss me then I'll kiss you back! Smack me and I'll smack you back...
Hurtmebad i guess those lyrics are better than Pacs too huh? LOL
Good *** Erbody!
WTF is blender magazine??? They saying thys *** for publicity becuase no one knows who the *** they are. So they go after Pac? Anyone who knows hip hop knows Tupac is in any event under-rated. To blender if anyone from the company is reading this by chance you will still continue to be a no name two-bit wannabe "magazine". I hope your piece of *** "mag" goes down the toilet and the writer of the article continues to land dumb *** jobs like working for no name *** companies that have no place and the real world. Get off that *** you all are smoking. It's clearly not good healthy.
@ hurt em bad....
L.O.L at you skeetin on a corps...
But for real you could never be on my Level homie....
and if you was in Cali i would make you take those words back and knock your *** teeth out...
loc you know what it is....
Majority of the comments say Pac is the best...
big was a better MC but he couldnt *** with the topic's pac had...
and how is pac fake for being a back up dude at the age of 17 teen... for claiming to be a thug at 20...
he was still a kid..? S.M.H if anybody was fake it was Big homie... *** aint hustled ***... at least pac told the up's and down's of the game...
if you say pac wasnt gangsta until deatrow you a hoe...
nicca check out thug life when he rappin with a bunch of LA crip cats... unifying cats that dont even get along in the streets...
now saying something like pac was a square until he came to cali at the age of 17 is different....
but at the same timehe never claimed a gang or none of that *** you got cats at the age of 25 just now claiming bloods... and they calling him the best? they hated songs like white men's world so they are trying to *** on his legacy...
Here's a little literature for the people who dont understand Tupac too well:
CODE OF THUG LIFE
“I didn’t create T.H.U.G. L.I.F.E., I diagnosed it.” – Tupac Shakur.
In 1992 at the ‘Truc Picnic’ in Cali, Tupac was instrumental in getting rival members of the Crips and Bloods to sign the Code Of THUG LIFE.
He and Mutulu Shakur had helped write up the ‘code’ , with help from other ‘og’s’.
The Code of THUG LIFE is listed here.It details do's and don'ts for being a righteous thug and banger.
Code OF THUG LIFE:
1. All new Jacks to the game must know: a) He’s going to get rich. b) He’s going to jail. c) He’s going to die.
2. Crew Leaders: You are responsible for legal/financial payment commitments to crew members; your word must be your bond.
3. One crew’s rat is every crew’s rat. Rats are now like a disease; sooner or later we all get it; and they should too.
4. Crew leader and posse should select a diplomat, and should work ways to settle disputes. In unity, there is strength!
5. Car jacking in our Hood is against the Code.
6. Slinging to children is against the Code.
7. Having children slinging is against the Code.
8. No slinging in schools.
9. Since the rat Nicky Barnes opened his mouth; ratting has become accepted by some. We’re not having it.
10. Snitches is outta here.
11. The Boys in Blue don’t run nothing; we do. Control the Hood, and make it safe for squares.
12. No slinging to pregnant Sisters. That’s baby killing; that’s genocide!
13. Know your target, who’s the real enemy.
14. Civilians are not a target and should be spared.
15. Harm to children will not be forgiven.
16. Attacking someone’s home where their family is known to reside, must be altered or checked.
17. Senseless brutality and rape must stop.
18. Our old folks must not be abused.
19. Respect our Sisters. Respect our Brothers.
20. Sisters in the Life must be respected if they respect themselves.
21. Military disputes concerning business areas within the community must be handled professionally and not on the block.
22. No *** at parties.
23. Concerts and parties are neutral territories; no ***!
24. Know the Code; it’s for everyone.
25. Be a real ruff neck. Be down with the code of the Thug Life.
26. Protect yourself at all times..
Ring a bell?? Take that, Blender magazine.
To THAREAL.....I'm guessing you don't know much about Pac. But Pac was catching cases b4 he was with Death Row. He didnt start getting arrested until he made it big, but he was crazy way b4 death row. He was in jail and Suge was the one that bailed him out. He beat up the Huges Brothers b4 Death Row. *** them police b4 Death Row. Thug Life Vol 1 was b4 Death Row and so was Me Against the World. I forgot the name of the DVD but if you listen to Shock G and the lady Pac lived with when he moved to Cali, Pac had mental issues.
So what he was with Digital Underground. *** got make money somehow. B4 them he was dirt poor.
Pac did get crazier with Death Row, but I think that had more to do with he knew he was going to die soon. Dude had been *** 5 times, beat up by the po po, was in jail for a year for nothing. I wake up and *** *** the World too.
They claim that I'm violent, just cause I refuse to be silent These hypocrites are havin fits, cause I'm not buyin it Defyin it, envious because I will rebel against any oppressor, and this is known as self defense I show no mercy, they claim that I'm the lunatic But when the sh*t gets thick, I'm the one you go and get Don't look confused, the truth is so plain to see Cause I'm the *** that you sell-outs are ashamed to be In every Jeep and every car, brothers stomp this I'm Never Ignorant, Getting Goals Accomplished The underground railroad on an uprise This time the truth's gettin told, heard enough lies I told em fight back, attack on society If this is violence, then violent's what I gotta be If you investigate you'll find out where it's comin from Look through our history, America's the violent one Unlock my brain, break the chains of your misery This time the payback for evil sh*t you did to me They call me militant, racist cause I will resist You wanna censor somethin, motherf**ker censor this! My words are weapons, and I'm steppin to the silent Wakin up the masses, but you, claim that I'm violent
@Lyle, I AM in Cali fool. IMPERIAL VILLAGE CRIP CUZ! If I seen you youd be trying to call DEUCES sucka *ss n*gga. Tupac is a RAPIST, I said that! Dont get on here loccin up, I ride on hoe *ss nuccas like you. BOSS UP. AINT ONE real nucca alive call Pac a hog or a Thug. Takin P-hole aint thuggish its SCANDOLOUS, my bad he didnt take coochie he took booty, ole sodomizing nucca. Ya'll reppin a LEVEL 3 *** OFFENDER. Pac didnt do nothin but perpetuate HATERISM, he was a angry individual who had a bunch of male groupie fans AND YOU ONE OF EM. I boss up 24/7 homie. A Boss recognize a boss and the real recognize the real. If you think Pac is a REAL NUCCA, then that tells me alot about your character. Wadnt Pac DRY SNITCHIN tellin the world that Biggie and Puff set him up to get ***??? How is that GANGSTA? Wadnt Pac cryin like a BROAD when he was goin to court, when he was found quilty? HOW IS THAT GANGSTA?? Pac was a good SH*T Talker,it is what it is but when did he put in any work? Pac get around some real hed be shakin like a dice game, old soft nucca. Same go for Snoop he aint gangsta either, 40 glock the realist cat with them. I keep it hood and I'm feelin all hood Nuccas not them artificial cats you reppin like PAC.
'When her son finally ask that questions Where my daddy at? Mama, Why we live so poor? Why you crying? Heard you late *** Throught my bedroom door Now do you love me mama? Why do they keep calling me ***? Get my wieght up, with my hate and pay 'em back when I'm bigger Still thugging in this jail cell MIssing my block Hearing brothers screaming all *** Wishing they'd stop Proud to be black But why do we act like We don't love oursleves Don't look around busta (you sucka) Check yourselves know what if means to be black whether a man or girl we're still struggling in this White man's world' the from a white's mans world a 2pac death row song. when i hear that *** tears come to my eyes. either u love pac or u don't... HE WAS FAR FROM OVERRATED
I have to agree with this magazine. I said this for years. Pac is overated. He is no gangsta, no revolutionary.
he was just an actor, who new how to create controversy to sell records. that's why people gravitated towards him. They were impressed at the character he portrayed. Nothing more.
He was Overated!!!!!
***, I go to work and come back to this bytch and the usual suspect, ***, still up here e-banging. But for real homie, banging on the net aint gangsta! Go get a job! Yo *** been up here along *** time.
Now some square *** niccas talking about fabolous vs. Pac. WTF! And some other nicca talking about 15 niccas in the game nicer than Pac. Name 'em! I guess the first would be Soullja Boy, T.I. and Ross! Simple *** niccas.
MTO, please let Tupac r.i.p... he was a great rapper,actor, speaker, he went through different phases in the publics eyes..he wasn't perfect but it wasn't phony he was a real *** *** and why everytime I read someone's comments on here thats negatively speaking on the dude they from the east coast and only list east coast rappers they feeling..thats so close-minded..thats cool you can like who you want but the the west embraces all coasts while the east stay stuck on they ***...which might I add there's nobody really hot out that way besides Jay-Z now he he's a little what I call commercial since he got so much loot he's not tripping off selling good records just mediocre for the people to here now..east coast one day I hope yawl broaden your horizons some and Brooklyn Latina not tryna diss you but I gotta pet-peeve about spelling, pls use your spell check when talking down about a dead man. Especially one that will be a rap legend forever whether you like it or not..>>>>simplysweet08...throwing up the WEST 2 YOU>>>>>>>>>
my bad I misspelled something look..lol!>>>(he's a little what I call commercial since he got so much loot he's not tripping off selling good records just mediocre for the people to here now...meant hear now}MY BAD!!>>> forgot to mention, we know Brooklyn Latina that you're a DIE_HARD Rakim fan I was too back then when I was little but you seem a little obsessive about the ***!..You AIIGHT ,SON!!.. LOL!!!
