: (AP) Last week, Dr. Harald zur Hausen, a German doctor and scientist, was awarded the Nobel Prize for medicine for finding human papilloma viruses that cause cervical cancer, the second most common cancer among women.
In awarding zur Hausen the prize, the Nobel assembly said he "went against current dogma" in the 1970s when he discovered that certain types of HPV caused the cancer and that the DNA of HPV could be found in tumors.
More than 20 years passed before researchers at Johns Hopkins Kimmel Cancer Center reported a link between HPV and these specific throat cancers in 2000. They and other medical experts suspect the increase in HPV oral cancer stems from a shift in sexual behaviors about 40 years ago, combined with a dramatic decrease in the number of tonsillectomies performed. Cancer from the HPV virus often develop on the tonsils.
In the John Hopkins study, researchers compared healthy people to patients with HPV oral cancer and concluded that people with HPV infections were 32 times more likely to develop the oral cancer than those without HPV. And people who had more than six oral sex partners in their lifetime were 8.6 times more likely to develop the HPV-linked cancer.
These findings have ramifications for anyone who is sexually active. Parents have another reason to think hard whether they want their adolescent daughters, and perhaps even sons, vaccinated with Gardasil, a drug that helps protect against human papillomavirus. And even baby boomers who thought they'd dodged the STD bullet, may not have after all.
Experts believe the HPV lies dormant for years, perhaps decades, before causing the cancer. No one knows for how long, because there's so little data on the disease. The National Cancer Institute determined recently that the rate of oral cancer caused by HPV has risen steadily since 1973.
Dr. Mark Varvares, chairman of the department of otolaryngology at St. Louis University, says it's hard to get patients with HPV oral cancer to participate in studies.
"It's extremely difficult because of the connotations of this being associated with people who are sexually promiscuous," Varvares says.
The Johns Hopkins study was conducted using a computer system that provided anonymity, with hopes of getting honest answers.
Nussenbaum says a lot of doctors spend very little time, if any, discussing the cancer's link to oral sex. He's given second opinions to several patients whose diagnosing doctors never mentioned HPV or its link to sexual behavior.
"In clinic, I let patients direct the conversation," Nussenbaum says. "I don't push or force the issue. It can get a bit uncomfortable especially when there are other family members, like children or spouses, in the room."
Symptoms of HPV oral cancer can include difficulty swallowing, a sore throat that won't go away, ear pain and a lump in the neck. Blood tests won't detect this type of cancer. But blood and saliva tests can detect HPV. None are being used in mainstream clinical settings yet.
The only good news with this type of cancer is that the tumors are highly sensitive to radiation and chemotherapy.
Nussenbaum says that even with stage 3 and 4 HPV cancer, the chance of living for three years is nearly 90 percent. For patients with non-HPV cancer, the survival rate is usually about 55 percent.
"The tumor cells of patients with HPV cancer are different at the gene level than those with non-HPV cancer," he says. "Even under a microscope, the tumor looks different. The shape and size of the cells are different."
Varvares notes how discovering HPV oral cancer has allowed experts to better understand the mechanics of managing it. Most major medical centers now treat it with chemotherapy and radiation and have had enough success that they're trying to determine the lowest doses they can use while maintaining that cure rate, he says.
"As clinicians, we don't like to pound patients with chemotherapy without any significant effect on the tumor. That's a nightmare for us," he says. High doses of radiation can cause permanent scarring and narrowing of the throat, problems with swallowing and dry mouth. Varvares estimates that about 30 percent of oral cancer patients must have permanent feeding tubes installed.
Experts are looking at different ways of preventing HPV oral cancer.
Varvares says experts are hoping to begin screening cervical cancer patients and their partners for oral HPV using the blood and saliva tests.
And Nussenbaum says experts are considering testing whether Gardasil can prime the immune system to fight the cancer. Typically, he notes, the vaccine is used preventively, so this could lead to a new way of using it.
Meanwhile, everyone agrees, practicing safe oral sex with condoms and dental dams is the best way to guard against oral HPV, which can lead to the cancer. So is getting the word out that it exists.
Nussenbaum recalls telling a patient that she had HPV oral cancer and that patient turning to her two teenage daughters, looking them right in the eyes and saying, "See. I told you sex can kill you."
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That true. It the same diease that gives women cervical cancer. And the bad thing is guy can't even get tested to see if they have HPV. Just another reason to practice safe ***. And if you have a girl that have hpv and you perform oral on her you have a possibility of getting throat cancer. And there is no symptoms for this STD
@DQC
haha clever! lol
yall this *** is true! mto jus got it from another site! come on now do u really think mto could make up such a literal article?! but yall need to stop sayin that its not true cuz oh yes it is! this stuff is no joke and some of yall are takin it as a joke! all the guys are in panic mode...well guys thats jus too bad! u'll be iight! not gettin yo dikk sukked is not the end of the world!
oh please.. and i suppose eatin *** will deteriorate your taste buds over time..lol. i understand the whole HPV thing and they say that 1 out of ever 4 women can live with it and not know it.. but to associate it specifically with oral *** seems rather odd..
ladies better get your hand job skills up and carry the trial size lotions.. =) i kiiiid, i kiiid, i joke, i joke..
have a good day yall..
I'm not surprised, everything kills! I don't know what's safe anymore! Eventually we all will die; So you can either live your life being very cautious or live you life and not worry about something that's going too happened regardless of how safe you are. $hit you can get hit by a car and die instantly so what's all the worrying about? Just live your life as if it was the last day. Nobody said tomorrow was promised!
tempertease said:whats about guys that toss women salads? does that mean they will have throat cancer too?
No sweetie, unless he's super freaky and "***" her and swallows it..wait that's nasty, huh? Sorry. But there are freaks out there that do that sort of thing...so I'm told. Truth be told, ain't nothin wrong tossin' a lil salad unless you're a SERIAL SALAD TOSSER, then you're really in some ***.:p
@ saintlewis Flag post THIS IS A GOT *** LIE, LADIES DONT READ THIS MESS ------------------------- LMAO
I MEAN YOU LEARN THIS *** IN HIGH SCHOOL *** EDUCATION THAT IF U EAT OR TAKE *** DOWN THE THROAT A LOT THAT IT CAN EAT AWAY IN YOUR THROAT AND CAUSE PROBLEMS LIKE THIS. NOT SAYING I'M TELLING LADIES TO STOP BUT I'VE SEEN PICTURES OF THROATS *** UP AND IT'S NOT A PRETTY SITE.
I dont no about throat cancer. Just be safe and protect yourself no matter what. Remember, when yu do give Brain make sure your mouth is like the other body part-hot,juicy and wet. Fellas gotta be careful too about going downtown because there is a lot of stuff down there thats good but will have you running to somebody trying to take it back!!
THIS IS THE TRUTH , I SAW THIS ON SOME NEWS CHANNEL. WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT WHAT WE ARE DOING AND TEACH OUR SONS AND DAUGHTER . GIVING MY HUSBAND HEAD IS NOT WORTH ME GETTING THROAT CANCER AND NOT HAVING A VOICE BOX ,I WORK IN A HOSPITAL THROAT CANCER IS NOT A PRETTY PICTURE .MY HUSBAN ALREADY KNOWS WHAT UP WE FIND OTHER WAYS TO PLEASE EACH OTHER AND GUESS WHAT HE IS SATIFIED TRRUST ME
B/U/L/L/S/H/I/T
*** has gone on since the beginning of time....Now it's dangerous? GTFOH...
I swear since Bush and his abstinence first *** got into office, there have been nothing but studies making *** of all types out to be "dangerous"...Whatever...
*** MTO why you got to post this ***...lol...Making it harder for Brothas to get "knowledge" from the ladies...knowing we ain't trying to give that up for nothin'
Sorry guys. THIS SH*T IS TRUE. ***, braind, head, whatever you wanna call it, CAN and DOES have negative implications...especially when *** with an "infected" parter.
You can get ORAL HERPES, GONNORHEA OF THE MOUTH and now...ta-dah! CANCER!
Look out for yourselves ladies. Making some n*gga holla between the *** aint worth your life.
STD's are real
its sad that these idiots at the top want to make jokes about it
THE HUMAN BODY is not TEXT BOOK at all
anything can happen... anything is possible
it wont be funny to these ignorant dudes when a female close to them ends up wit this sh..t
DO YOUR RESEARCH LADIES AND YOU SHOULD BE AFRAID OF STD's you should be afraid of every std out there
you would be stupid if you weren't afraid
PROTECT YOURSELVES and remember condoms do not stop everything
the only true way to protect yourself is to abstain from ***
and the other way is for you and the person you plan on being intimate with to go and get tested together
but be careful ladies because their is no test to see if a man has hpv (human papilloma virus)
but if you wanna be a statistic and be stupid then keep on thinking articles like this are false
you can be the one out of 10,000 that makes it true
men and women need to stop cheating how many times have we heard of a man cheating and then giving his wife/girlfriend something
about two years ago there was a story in the paper... this dude killed himself and his wife... the reason he killed his wife was cause she gave him hiv When she went out and CHEATED ON HIM
CHEATING IS NOT WORTH IT YOU CAN FK SOMEONES LIFE UP BY THE CHOICES YOU MAKE
and yes giving a woman oral can also hurt men
i know a dude who's eye is fk'd up cause a chick sprayed some bad bodily liquid in his eye
may sound funny but its far from not so you fellas who wanna think this is a joke you keep on eatin that fish... hopefully you eat the good fish and dont mess up and eat some bad one and end up with an eye lid that's half *** ALL DAY LONG
PEOPLE STOP FREAKING OUT!
You should be protecting yourself anyway when you engage in sexual activity! DUUUHH!
*** doesn't cause throat cancer, HPV does. So yall nasty men with HPV getting brain with NO PROTECTION, yall are the ones with the fatal dyck!
Ladies, and it did say women with more than 6 oral *** partners in their lifetime are at a higher risk. So hopefully that SHOULD ease your fears a little (or not for the hoes).
The moral of this story is WRAP IT UP!!
I KNOW THIS IS KINDA EARLY.. BUT *** IT.. ATTENTION CALL YOUR FRIENDS AGAIN AND TELL THEM TO TAKE A LOOKIE LOOKIE AT TXbestnanapudin SHE TALKING ABOUT LIL KIM.. NOW WE KNOW KIM HAD SURGERY BUT WTF. DID YOU HAVE? AND IF YOU GOT THE BEST NANAPUDIN IN TEXAS.. GUYS PLEASE OH PLEASE RUN.. OHYESIDID.. AND ILL DO IT AGAIN..
ImRtUrWrg Flag post PEOPLE STOP FREAKING OUT!
You should be protecting yourself anyway when you engage in sexual activity! DUUUHH!
*** doesn't cause throat cancer, HPV does. So yall nasty men with HPV getting brain with NO PROTECTION, yall are the ones with the fatal dyck!
Ladies, and it did say women with more than 6 oral *** partners in their lifetime are at a higher risk. So hopefully that SHOULD ease your fears a little (or not for the hoes).
The moral of this story is WRAP IT UP!! =========================================== The MORAL of the story is you *** be doing this to every *** partner you have and wrapping it up.
This was a good one MTO. My husband is sitting here saying that's not true. Knowing Johns Hopkins they put someone in a study and they did not know they were in. They were doing a study at one time where you can swab yourself and send it in to them. I have to say Hopkins probably got this one right. Just don't slob everybodies nob. ---------------- It's so lovely being ME!!!
what makes me even more scared is that i jus recently started doin it, but i dont swallow thats jus gross! you can die from anything in this world and its so *** scary! i jus will neva understand how somethin that feels so right can kill u! but if u can get throat cancer then *** u get cootchie cancer?
YOU KNOW SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO MAKE SACRIFICES!!!I WILL DEAL WITH WHATEVER COMES MY WAY. I LOVVVVVVVEEEE SUCKING MY MANS *** AND HE LOVES IT TO. LADIES LISTEN TO THIS *** IT YOU WANT TO HE WILL START LEAVING HOME MORE. THAT'S PROBABLY WHY MY DUDE GETS OFF WORK AND POSTS(HE ONLY GOES TO THE GYM AND BACK HOME) ITS THE COOKING, THE GOOD ***, HIS BEAUTIFUL LADY AND THE WONDERFUL MIND BLOWING HEAD.
Just know your status on STD's and HIV. I get tested every year and not ashamed to let others know that I do. My boyfirned and I talk about things of this nature openly and we know where each of us stand. He's encouraged to continue to get tested as he knows I do. There was a life before him and ya know you only have one life so take care of yourself.
ITS FUNNY BUT SAD
HOW ITS WAS OVER 400 COMMENTS
ABOUT RAVEN GETTING SPLASHED IN HER FACE(BY DA MAN)
SAYIN HOW DEGRADING AND DISRESPECTFUL THAT IS
BUT EVERY *** IN HERE
JOKIN ABOUT SWALLOWING
YA'LL SOME SAD AND PATHETIC *** IN HERE
GET A LIFE --------------------------------------
While I certainly do NOT agree with you calling black women "b*tches", I will have to concede that you have a point on this dude.
A TON of women claimed they felt sooo disrespected and yucked out with the Raven posts but yet are not taken this thread serious about catching a LIFE THREATENING DISEASE.
Now if some of the ladies want to dabble in the "oral arena" with their husbands or long-time boyfriends, I aint here to knock you...do YOU, by all means. But at the same time, don't be acting like this sh*t aint serious out here. Just keeping it 100%.
RAW *** = REAL RISK
Monica Lewinsky sucked Bill Clinton's (and a whole lotta others) dyck and she is healthy as a horse. I'm a medical student and even I know that story is a stretch because if it were true, why don't you see folks on Oprah and other tv shows talking about it. They need to show more proof before I believe this. Next thing you know, they will be saying tossing salads give you gas.
Can't debate wit the studies cause were at risk for anything when we have unprotected ***...Problem is.. I should have been diagnosed a long time ago.. The lump in my throat dayum show ain't cancer.Ask my man! You can walk out ur front door and get *** dead, so... Yall b itches stop if U wanna, an I'll take yo man. Keep in mind that if u don't theres always someone out dere willing. Have a good day ladies!
SEANBOOGIE Flag post ITS FUNNY BUT SAD
HOW ITS WAS OVER 400 COMMENTS
ABOUT RAVEN GETTING SPLASHED IN HER FACE(BY DA MAN)
SAYIN HOW DEGRADING AND DISRESPECTFUL THAT IS
BUT EVERY *** IN HERE
JOKIN ABOUT SWALLOWING
YA'LL SOME SAD AND PATHETIC *** IN HERE
GET A LIFE ====================================
I didn't read the article itself. I went straight to the comments because I knew they'd be off the chain. The men were saying to keep on sukking. Wasn't everyone speaking about ***? I know a few threw salad tossing out there but from what I read, they understood the article to mean "*** sukking" is bad. The men on here weren't saying, "That's a lie. Keep swallowing."
Let me go read again. I admit, I wasn't pay attention but I could've sworn...
@SEANBOOGIE,
You should read more carefully as I just went back and did. The women and men were commenting about giving head to THEIR man/husband, NOT joking about swallowing. Swallowing isn't a necessary part of that. We were disgusted with Raven because she had cream of soup all over her FACE. Secondly, she got that way by having RANDOM strangers skeet on her. Add the biggest shock of all, which was the racism, you get the UPROAR. Also, keep in mind, a good amount of the comments were about her tacky blonde weave.
Here's what you do, go back to that thread and take down the names of all those who said SWALLOWING is nasty. You have one person right here (Conscious1). Then come in here and take down the names of those SAME posters who are in here admitting to SWALLOWING.
If you want to take it a step further, take down the names of all the females who've admitted to giving brains in here. If another time comes they act like they don't...POUNCE.
There is nothing contradictory here. You're reaching.
@ SystemVII
I was surprised as well.
But it just somethings a lot of women on here should ot say that is there own sexual! life not only we know what you like to do but you also exposed your face. and posted your myspace adress at the bottom! they should have more respect for them selfs! if a female like doing they like doing but don't air your own dirty laundry! out there!.
Uhhh makes sense.... But just think it can go both ways. I would suspect it's not the actual object or organ but what may be dwelling in the johnson or who ha or body... Yea I said it and I can admit my names sound lame but you get the gist! So for instance if you are messing with someone that may have a disease (a-symptomatic or not) and you decide to make their eyes roll to the back of their heads you may one day get oral cancer. Makes perfect sense to me!!!!
I don't post too much on this site, BUT, I will add this.
There is definitely some truth to this story. Although I've not had a extreme number of partners, STD's via oral *** is possible.
These are what lead to strep throat. Gonnorhea in the throat is a leading cause to strep and other mouth, tongue and throat problems.
Don't get it twisted. It's not the ONLY cause, but one of them. I fought my battle for years with repeated strep and one ER visit the doc asked, have you had oral *** in the last week. I was appalled that he would ask me that. Then, he explained to me why he asked.
Fortunately, I was tested and did not have an oral STD. However, the repeated bouts thru the years led to me having to have my tonsils removed in 2005. And, the meds they give you for strep can permanently damage your kidneys. I was walking round sick and didn't know til a doggone DENTIST appointment revealed my throat illness.
People practice SAFE ***! The info is out there for you! TAKE HEED!