: (AP) Eighteen and pregnant, Sycloria Williams went to an abortion clinic outside Miami and paid $1,200 for Dr. Pierre Jean-Jacque Renelique to terminate her 23-week pregnancy.
Three days later, she sat in a reclining chair, medicated to dilate her cervix and otherwise get her ready for the procedure.
Only Renelique didn't arrive in time. According to Williams and the Florida Department of Health, she went into labor and delivered a live baby girl.
What Williams and the Health Department say happened next has shocked people on both sides of the abortion debate: One of the clinic's owners, who has no medical license, cut the infant's umbilical cord. Williams says the woman placed the baby in a plastic biohazard bag and threw it out.
Police recovered the decomposing remains in a cardboard box a week later after getting anonymous tips.
"I don't care what your politics are, what your morals are, this should not be happening in our community," said Tom Pennekamp, a Miami attorney representing Williams in her lawsuit against Renelique (ren-uh-LEEK') and the clinic owners.
The state Board of Medicine is to hear Renelique's case in Tampa on Friday and determine whether to strip his license. The state attorney's homicide division is investigating, though no charges have been filed. Terry Chavez, a spokeswoman with the Miami-Dade County State Attorney's Office, said this week that prosecutors were nearing a decision.
Renelique's attorney, Joseph Harrison, called the allegations at best "misguided and incomplete" in an e-mail to The Associated Press. He didn't provide details.
The case has riled the anti-abortion community, which contends the clinic's actions constitute murder.
"The baby was just treated as a piece of garbage," said Tom Brejcha, president of The Thomas More Society, a law firm that is also representing Williams. "People all over the country are just aghast."
Even those who support abortion rights are concerned about the allegations.
"It really disturbed me," said Joanne Sterner, president of the Broward County chapter of the National Organization for Women, after reviewing the administrative complaint against Renelique. "I know that there are clinics out there like this. And I hope that we can keep (women) from going to these types of clinics."
According to state records, Renelique received his medical training at the State University of Haiti. In 1991, he completed a four-year residency in obstetrics and gynecology at Interfaith Medical Center in New York.
New York records show that Renelique has made at least five medical malpractice payments in the past decade, the circumstances of which were not detailed in the filings.
Several attempts to reach Renelique were unsuccessful. Some of his office numbers were disconnected, no home number could be found and he did not return messages left with his attorney.
Williams struggled with the decision to have an abortion, Pennekamp said. She declined an interview request made through him.
She concluded she didn't have the resources or maturity to raise a child, he said, and went to the Miramar Women's Center on July 17, 2006. Sonograms indicated she was 23 weeks pregnant, according to the Department of Health. She met Renelique at a second clinic two days later.
Renelique gave Williams laminaria, a drug that dilates the cervix, and prescribed three other medications, according to the administrative complaint filed by the Health Department. She was told to go to yet another clinic, A Gyn Diagnostic Center in Hialeah, where the procedure would be performed the next day, on July 20, 2006.
Williams arrived in the morning and was given more medication.
The Department of Health account continues as follows: Just before noon she began to feel ill. The clinic contacted Renelique. Two hours later, he still hadn't shown up. Williams went into labor and delivered the baby.
"She came face to face with a human being," Pennekamp said. "And that changed everything."
The complaint says one of the clinic owners, Belkis Gonzalez came in and cut the umbilical cord with scissors, then placed the baby in a plastic bag, and the bag in a trash can.
Williams' lawsuit offers a cruder account: She says Gonzalez knocked the baby off the recliner chair where she had given birth, onto the floor. The baby's umbilical cord was not clamped, allowing her to bleed out. Gonzalez scooped the baby, placenta and afterbirth into a red plastic biohazard bag and threw it out.
No working telephone number could be found for Gonzalez, and an attorney who has represented the clinic in the past did not return a message.
At 23 weeks, an otherwise healthy fetus would have a slim but legitimate chance of survival. Quadruplets born at 23 weeks last year at The Nebraska Medical Center survived.
An autopsy determined Williams' baby - she named her Shanice - had filled her lungs with air, meaning she had been born alive, according to the Department of Health. The cause of death was listed as extreme prematurity.
The Department of Health believes Renelique committed malpractice by failing to ensure that licensed personnel would be present when Williams was there, among other missteps.
The department wants the Board of Medicine, a separate agency, to permanently revoke Renelique's license, among other penalties. His license is currently restricted, permitting him to only perform abortions when another licensed physician is present and can review his medical records.
Should prosecutors file murder charges, they'd have to prove the baby was born alive, said Robert Batey, a professor of criminal law at Stetson University College of Law in Gulfport. The defense might contend that the child would have died anyway, but most courts would not allow that argument, he said.
"Hastening the death of an individual who is terminally ill is still considered causing the death of that individual," Batey said. "And I think a court would rule similarly in this type of case."
THAT'S JUST SAD...BUT SOMEONE SHOULD WHOOP THE MAMA'S A** B/C SHE KNEW SHE WAS PREGNANT 23 WEEKS PRIOR...IF NOT 23 WEEKS ATLEAST 10 OUTTA 23...WHY EVEN WAIT THAT LONG TO ABORT YOUR CHILD? I'M AN RN IN THE NICU AND I'VE SEEN BABIES BORN AT 23 WEEKS...SOME LIVE AND HAVE MEANINGFUL LIVES...OTHERS GO HOME TO GLORY...BUT WHY WILLINGLY KILL YOUR CHILD AFTER THE FACT...THIS SICKENS ME...THERE ARE THOUSANDS OF COUPLES WHO HAVE TO COME TO TERMS OF NEVER BEING ABLE TO CONCEIVE FOR WHATEVER REASONS...AND THEN THERE ARE THE DUMMIES WHO DON'T NEED OR WANT A BABY AND THEY CAN GET PREGNANT BY SAYING THE WORD "***"...LET ME STOP...(THIS IS A PARAGRAPH VIOLATION)
There *** be a lawsuit! She made her *** bed, and she should lay in it! What a sick mother, she *** be upset because its her fault. With the money she wasted destroying somebody elses life, she could have used it to buy formula and pampers. There really aint no excuses, and I dont condone abortion, same thing with the death penalty. They make murder of a human life legal. What makes the PIGS any better for killin a killer? Just like this mom aint no better, just because she felt she wasnt mature enough. There are places, and people who LOVE childern. I mean did the baby atleast have a fighting chance at life???
It's cases like this that get pro-lifers picketing all the time. I can't fathom this incident. This is down right murder!
I'm pro-choice but this baby was killed. For one thing I don't believe in abortion over a few weeks along. The baby's heartbeat is pumping by day 25-30!!
The pro-lifers are nuts too. I'm surprised someone hasn't been stalking this doctor. A few years ago a doctor who performed abortions was *** right thru his kitchen window.
she was mature enough to *** but wasnt' mature enough to take care of a baby? get the *** out of here.
this is the problem in this socity. abortion or killing babies is now the new birth control. folks want to act irresponsible but aren't willing to deal with the consequences of their irresponsible behavior.
The doctor SHOULD HAVE KILLED HER INSTEAD!!! Let the baby live, give a child life, dont take it away. I mean, "What if your mother had of aborted you?" Everyone should experience life, its not to be taken away and destroyed like that. Now the hoe wants to sue like she didnt dig her own ditch. They love aborting young Black babies! Thats what they want for us, to die, and here people on here are riding with this GENOCIDE.
i can't come to a conclusion on this. she did not want the baby her point was to KILL the baby now because she saw her baby she want's to sue the doctor for malpratice are you kidding me. it may have been done the wrong way maybe she was all drugged up who knows what really happened but it seems weird to me. maybe the baby had died and they tried to hurry and get the baby away from her so that she won't see the child. not only that she could have spoken up insisting that she wanted to keep the child after she seen her. point blank if she wanted the child after the fact she should have done everything in her young *** ignorant mind to keep her child from being thrown in the trash. i have kids and this makes me mad looks like she was looking for a free hand out stupid b*tch
sorry, Ima gonna say it, This *** should have never had an abortion that far along. That is freakin sick. That is nearly 6 months pregnant. Also hearing this *** say "Oh I didn't have no money to raise the child" Yeah OK, you had 1200 to pay to have an abortion. Besides, she could have had the abortion at a more reasonable time, like 4 months ago. She needs to go pray,b/c as wrong as the doc was, well so was she
why would she even try to get an abortion at 23 weeks? they say its only legal if the baby is less then 3 months...wtf is wrong w/ppl? if u dont wanna have a baby, eitha wear a condom or dont have *** at all! if u do this, then it won't be a problem, what it so hard bout wearing a condom? or not havin *** period? man ppl need direction!
I blame the stupid *** mom!
Who the f ucks gets an abortion at 23weeks!
12 weeks is the cut off and those f ucking *** should have told her she couldn't get it done!
She should have continued the pregnancy and then gave the baby up for adoption.
What a heartless ***! Now she wants to sue?
They need to charge her with murder for wanting an abortion at 23weeks and actually going through with it!
THIS DUMB *** WAITED 23 WEEKS TO GET A *** ABORTION HOW DUMB IS SHE AND THEN HAD THE NERVE TO NAME HER BABY AFTER THEY THREW HER OUT WITH THE TRASH *** R U STUPID. I HATE DUMB *** IF YOU DIDNT WANT THE BABY GET RID OF IT B4 3 MONTHS NOT WHEN UR ALMOST 6 MONTHS PREGNANT. IM ABOUT TO BE 23 WEEKS ON TUESDAY AND I'LL BE DAMNED AND THIS IS REALLY UPSETTING. I UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S A WOMAN'S CHOICE BUT *** 23 WEEKS GETTING A ABORTION THAT *** EVEN BE ALLOWED.
My thing is she was gonna get an abortion anyway..you were killing your child now your upset at the method that was used..suffocation is way worst than havin a tube suck your child out of you piece by piece i guess...wow...there all gonna rot in hell...if ur preggo deal with it and own up. ppl always want the easy route..I feel so sad for this innocent Baby!!!!
This just isn't right! The mother and doctor are dead wrong and hope this haunt them both. My kids hug, kiss, and tell me how wonderful I am everyday. Two of them are teenagers and we know they don't like to be seen giving Mama love! Florida and their childprotection laws, politics, social issues are a disgrace, period!
I am pro choice 100%, but after the child was born, killing it means MURDER. And 23 weeks?? Like I said, I am pro choice, but at 23 weeks it's too *** late to be having an abortion. the baby is no longer an embrio, it is a fetus. It has eyes and a heart and lungs both arms and legs, its *** is already determind, it is basically an underdeveloped child, And that I DO NOT agree with. An embrio is still in its egg form with little to no developement. If you wanna terminate a pregnancy, do it then. Don't wait untill the baby can actually live outside the womb before you get an abortoin.
When a female arrives at the conclusion she wants to terminate the pregnancy, she needs to get her @ss down to Roto-Rooter, Trouble-*** WAY BEFORE 23 weeks.
The last time I had a female terminate, her @ss was there within the first 30 days! She *** and moaned about it, but her @ss went anyway. The last thing I wanted was a crumb-snatcher with her and I'd have stuck my arm up her cooze and yanked that *** out my *** self if she had refused.
After 90 days termination is NOT an option.
Fellaz: if you find out the stunt you been knockin' boots with is knocked the fcuck up, get her to a qualified Roto-Rooter, Trouble-*** shop ASAP!
I hope your reading this Sycloria Williams.
Sycloria Williams -I DO NOT FEEL SORRY FOR YOU - you dumb *** you brought this *** upon yourself and now you wanna sue - you have got to be kidding me - I DO NOT FEEL SORRY FOR YOU.
23 weeks serious 23 weeks are you kidding me 23 weeks you dumb *** that’s already a formed fetus that has - a heart - a brain - kidney and some have lungs at 23 weeks. Let alone their fully developed limps and other body parts.
This is why YOU should have stayed in school and paid attention so when your teacher was teaching you about development you could have been aware of your actions.
HOW could you not KNOW that 23 weeks is a 5 month fetus inside you that is capable of living even if delivered - you are pitiful you discuss me and I hope you get nothing ($) just a haunted memory of your actions and continued wishes of you wishing you should have never let this happen.
Do you know how many other folks wish they could even get to 23 weeks or even adopt that child.
As for the clinic they didn't care they got their money and was carrying out their mission abort, destroy and murder. They got caught and they too must pay. Can u imagine how many other *** ups they've done.
I'm 1000% pro choice. I mean, I've worked with girls that are contemplating abortion and just because they decide to get one doesn't mean that they are ***/hoes/***. So the "keep you legs closed" && "don't have ***" && the ignorant "they should have killed the mother" comments can burn iin hell. Half of you females on here have probably had *** 3 times as much as some women that chose to have an abortion. Have you thought about the women that were raped? What about when the condom breaks? Sexual abuse? Failed birth control pills, injections, patches?! It *** happens, people, so quit judging these women. I don't condone the usage of abortion as a regular means of birth control, but people have to understand what must be going through some of these females' minds. Regardless of this woman's lifestyle decisions, she has a right to take this so called "doctor" to court. I pray that she wins, because this was not abortion, it was indeed murder.
I am hell-of-va-MAD
She didn't have the resources or the maturity to raise a child but at 18 she came up with $1,200 to get this procedure done.
Not in America is she gonna run with this excuse and feel no shame in her actions for causing this upon her stupid self.
I DO NOT FEEL SORRY FOR YOU.
NOT IN AMERICA
HOW DID YOU COME UP WITH $1.200.
I AM SCREAMING AND THIS SH!T HAPPEN IN AMERICA IN 2006. NO F~*** *** WAY
THE MOTHER SHOULD NOT BE TRYING TO BRINGING A LAWSUIT NOW CAUSE SHE IS JUST AS AT FAULT AS THE ABORTIONIST!! AT 23 WEEKS SHE KNEW THAT BABY WAS A LIVE AND VIABLE BEING BY THE MOVEMENTS I'M SURE SHE FELT DAILY. YET SHE STILL OPTED TO GO AHEAD WITH THE PROCEDURE. THAT'S LIKE HIRING A HITMAN AND THEN ASKING FOR YOUR MONEY BACK CAUSE HE DIDN'T GET AWAY WITH THE CRIME. WISE UP FOOL
*** 1 IS JUDGING HER OR THE YOUNG FOR THEIR ACTIONS AT LEAST NOT ME BUT AT HER AGE AND IN THESE DAYS AND TIMES - A WISER DECISSION COULD HAVE BEEN MADE.
I HOPE SHE GETS NOTHING CUS HER ATTEMPT WAS TO GET AN ABORTION EVEN AFTER SHE HAD BEEN TO Miramar Women's Center on July 17, 2006. Sonograms indicated she was 23 weeks pregnant, SHE MET THIS DOCTOR TWO DAYS LATER. DURING A SONOGRAM YOU SEE YOUR FETUS YOU SEE MOVEMENT YOU SEE YOU SEE YOU SEE *** YOU FEEL SHE SAW YAH SAW HER FETUS - HER ACTIONS HER ACTIONS WAS HER FAULT
AT 18 YOU KNOW YOUR CONSIQUENCES
THIS DAY AND AGE
KNOWLEDGE IS THE KEY
@ LoveMeLynn - *** 1 IS JUDGING HER OR THE YOUNG FOR THEIR ACTIONS AT LEAST NOT ME BUT AT HER AGE AND IN THESE DAYS AND TIMES - A WISER DECISSION COULD HAVE BEEN MADE.
I HOPE SHE GETS NOTHING CUS HER ATTEMPT WAS TO GET AN ABORTION EVEN AFTER SHE HAD BEEN TO Miramar Women's Center on July 17, 2006. Sonograms indicated she was 23 weeks pregnant, SHE MET THIS DOCTOR TWO DAYS LATER. DURING A SONOGRAM YOU SEE YOUR FETUS YOU SEE MOVEMENT YOU SEE YOU SEE YOU SEE *** YOU FEEL SHE SAW YAH SAW HER FETUS - HER ACTIONS HER ACTIONS WAS HER FAULT
AT 18 YOU KNOW YOUR CONSIQUENCES
THIS DAY AND AGE
KNOWLEDGE IS THE KEY
I am a pro-choice gal; however, this disturbs me as well. The baby was born alive....breathing and they did not call 911. They put a breathing, living person into a garbage bag and allowed it to suffocate.
Please please please if a person decides to terminate don't wait until those cells start to divide and grow eyes, arms, legs, a heart, brain etc. Decide early. I don't feel the girl is at fault b/c once the baby was born alive maybe she changed her mind. She has a right to change her mind and that is the meaning of pro-choice. Now the baby is born although not what she had intended it was born none the less, but those people at the hospital did not giver her that opportunity when the murdered the baby after she gave birth.
THEY ARE ALL GOING TO HELL!!!!!!! USE CONDOMS AND USE THE MORNING AFTER PILL IT DOES WONDERS...THIS IS JUST PLAIN OLD IRRESPONSIBLE...THIS STORY MADE ME SO MAD!!! THIS DOCTOR SHOULD BE CHARGED WITH MURDER AND THE GIRL WHO HAD THE BABY SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF HERSELF FOR DELIVERING A LIVE BABY AND ALLOWING THE CLINIC TO THROW IT AWAY LIKE TRASH!!! SMH
Sycloria! Karma is a Bytch I'm all for abortion and a woman's right to do whatever with her body but to try to abort a fetus a 23 weeks is horrific that's why it is commonly accepted for 3 months and under 12 weeks not 23 weeks or 6 months People like this should never have the ability to reproduce ever again
Not to sound rude or harsh but that *** deserved to go through pain like that. Why would you wait until you are 23 weeks to get an abortion. Like it took you all that time to make your decision. *** probably went wrong with her and the father and she said *** it. Tragic but it's only Karma...Sad but that is one of the effects that can happen from having an abortion...they warn you about all of that
Aren't babies fully developed at 5 and 6 months? I've heard of women giving birth at 5/6 months. That's sick! Why is she suing them?! She *** have went down there at all. She had a whole baby inside of her, but she paid 1200 dollars to get it killed.
America arrests and kills murderers, but women are allowed to kill their babies. SICK, SICK, SICK! I would never associate with someone who had an abortion. Any friend who did that would get disowned.
@lovemelynn, keep your legs closed and blame should be put on the mother IS CORRECT. EVERYONE WHO WAS TAUGHT CORRECTLY SHOULD KNOW THAT THERE ARE RISK WHEN YOU HAVE *** SUCH AS PREGANANCT,STD'S ETC. SO SAYING THAT THESE COMMENTS DON'T MAKE SENSE IS A HEAD SCRATCHER. THIS BEHAVIOR IS NOT OK AS OTHERS HAVE STATED.
MizzCutie2011 <<<<< You have got to be the SMARTEST person in here!!
"I am pro choice BUT..." <<<<< WTH?????
There are no BUTs about it (no pun intended)
Aren't you pro-choicers aware of the irony in your statements? Even YOU know abortion is murder but you only complain when the baby is murdered in AIR rather than in the womb?????
Pro-Choice = Pro-abortion (NO DIFFERENCE)
This is Sickening!!!
If are not married or can not take care of a child KEEP YOUR LEGS CLOSED! (Abortions due to rape make up less than 3% of ALL abortions... That means 97% is the result of birth control <<<<< ridiculous!!!)
The choice SHOULD start with the choice to have ***, NOT the choice to abort your child!
Its TIME to take responsibility people! ITs Time!!!
WHAT DISCUSTS ME IS THIS DUMB BIRD ABORTING A 5 MONTH OLD FETUS AND IN THIS DAY AND AGE IT'S MORE THAN LIKLY VIABLE OUTSIDE THE WOMB, OK SHE HAD MONEY FOR AN ABORTION BUT DIDNT HAVE MONEY FOR THE MORNING AFTER PILL, OR PLAN B WTF IS THIS WORLD COMIN 2??? 1ST YOU WANNA ABORT, NOW YOU WANNA SUE BECAUSE THE POOR BABY WAS BORN ALIVE BECAUSE YOU WAITED TOO LATE TO GET BACK TO THE CLINIC TO HAVE THE PROCEDURE DONE IN THE ALOTTED TIME?? AGAIN WTF??? YEAH THIS DUMB ARSE BROAD WOULDA BEEN A HORRIBLE MOTHER, BUT THIS $HIT IS JUST WRONG PLAIN *** SIMPLE, THE WHOLE INCIDENT LEFT A BAD FEELING IN MY STOMACH, I WISH I WOULDA NEVER READ THIS $HIT.
STILL SCREAMING -- HOW DID SHE COME UP WITH $1,200.
HOW COME AT HER AGE SHE DIDN'T KNOW BETTER.
I GUESS SHE'LL BE SUEING THE CLINIC THAT GAVE HER THE SONOGRHAM TOO.
*** BECAUSE THE DOCTOR WAS LATE A PERSON WITH NO MEDICAL LICENCE TOO OVER - One of the clinic's owners, who has no medical license, cut the infant's umbilical cord.
AGAIN WILLIAMS HOW - HOW DID YOU COME UP WITH $1,200 AND WHAT MADE YOU MAKE THIS TYPE OF DECISSION THIS LATE INTO THE PREGNANCY.
I WANT MORE ANSWERS OUT OF YOU.
This is the craziest *** I heard in a long time. The mother is at fault for murder as well because she waited until she was 5/6 months (I believe the law is up to 3 months to abort) to make a *** decision about the baby? Where did she get the $1,200 from? and now she wants to sue probably to get more money???
The place is at fault for murder because the baby was clearly BORN ALIVE and then they KILLED IT instead of the baby being taken to hospital where it could received medical care by a doctor and later if it survived be put up for adoption.
The doctor had his license revoked and who knows how many illegal procedures he has done because he was making malpractice payments. This is shameful and should make ppl think about the decisions you make in life.
@ purpleladee... ii diidn't say those comments didn't make sense. I said that they should burn in hell, or otherwise are unnecessary. They do make sense, but not in all cases. This girl could have been raped, abused, or could have made a stupid decision. The point is, we don't know her situation so those comments *** be made about this woman. I mean waiting 23 weeks into the pregnancy wasn't a very good idea on her part, but like I said. I'm a college freshman and I work with females in a support group on personal issues such as these. A lot of women (a VERY large majority) contemplating an abortion took almost every precaution out there from condoms to Plan-B (the morning after pill)to prevent pregnancy and promote safe ***, but they still ended up pregnant. All I'm saying is comments like those cause a lot of young women unneeded pressure. They already have to deal with the emotional effects not to mention the painful physical effects they experience as well.
I'm PRO-LIFE
Do not beleive in it!
Its call MURDER!
I do believe if a woman has been rape or incest then that's her choice...
Killing babies like allot of FEMALES do on a daily basic is not whats up!
I hear women talk about abortions like its nothing ..Girl this like my 6 or 7th time ...SICK!
There was a special on Oprah in the 90's about "Women and Abortions" they showed clips of babies in trash cans after having abortions...It made my stomach turn so sad!
This right here happens allot in all races....It just so happen the Latino population has surpass the black population in having children....
I'm of mix race however! The Latino side of my family so many children its crazy!
Listen I believe abortion is up to the individual but when you use the excuse of being young with no money etc. then you *** be having ***. This is a horrible story and I can't believe that a woman would do something like that. Why would you throw the baby in the trash? 23 weeks is to late to be getting an abortion. They should all be held responsible. She obviously went to a cheap clinic and a shady doctor.
IS THIS B!TCH SERIOUS?!?!
AND ARE U GUYS SERIOUS?
THIS IS FU.CKED UP BUT SHE WAS GONNA MURDER THE *** BABY ANYWAY! SHE WAS 6 MONTHS AND GETTING AN ABORTION--WHICH SHOULD BE ILLEGAL AFTER YOUR FIRST TRIMESTER/3 MONTHS!
THEY SAY SHE WAS UNSURE ABOUT HAVING THE ABORTION BUT UMM....ONCE UR LAYING THERE AND THEY PREPPED YOU UP FOR THE PROCEDURE, U ARE PRETTY *** SURE AT THAT MOMENT.
IT WAS MESSED UP INDEED, BUT FILING A LAWSUIT? MAN GET THE FU.CK OUTTA HERE!! THEY WERE GONNA YANK THE *** BABY OUT ANYWAY AND THROW IT IN THE GARBAGE...WHILE IT WAS STILL LIVING.
The people who start off saying, "I am pro-life but this is murder..." make me laugh.
So what is an abortion? Isn't that murder too? It's just called something else.
The baby is human at conception, carrying the baby at 8 weeks and getting an abortion or aborting it at 23 weeks gives you the same result ---> no baby.
Anyone who has an abortion knows that they are stopping a life.
If you have had an abortion, remember that Jesus still loves you. Repent and He will forgive you.
Turn to Project Rachel for healing ( w w w . h o p e a f t e r a b o r t i o *** . c o m ) remove spaces
I'm PRO-LIFE. I honestly don't see why any mother would want to abort her baby. We all have choices in life but that doesn't mean every choice we make is right. There is nothing right about aborting a baby. I understand that people sometimes have unfortunate *** but it also doesn't mean ur situation is permanent, whateva it may be. In time wounds will heal but some women do not give themselves or their child a chance. Usually tough situations make a person better and stronger, that's a good thing. My things is, don't abort ur baby because you don't want it right now. Everyone on this earth is capable of making an impact. Think about if some of great leaders, athletes scientist were aborted, I’m sure every mother of some of these people were placed in difficult situations or was not ready for a child but their children turned out to be who many of us admire today.
I don't like reading stuff like this. I'm totally against abortions. Their are so many people out there that want a baby and can't have one. I don't understand what's so hard about giving the baby up for adoption. Why would you kill a innocent baby.she knew the consequences when she laid her behind down and had ***. I'm just tierd of people treating babies like their a piece of meat, they are human being and I feel like she should be charged and the doctor should be charged
This is the tricky part to the war on abortion rights. I think that there clearly should be a limit...to how many weeks a mother can be...before an abortion is performed. 23 weeks is about 6 months full term, and a live and kicking baby with a brain and working organs.
The mother is also a murderer.
This story makes me sick.. I'am Pro-Life..and I agree with all of you people who think the same as me..that if you don't think you can take care of a baby than you need to keep your pants on both males and females. I mean didn't the mother learn in her health classes that *** can lead to a baby.. so when she was having *** she was telling herself that " I'm ready to have a baby and I can raise it!!!!" Cause I think the minute you give into having *** weather you are married or not you are telling yourself Im ready to have a baby and I can rasie one. And Yrs I do think that what they did was murder!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And Babies can live at 23 weeks it's a hard battle cause their so little but they can live and a nice loving family can adopt the baby..Cause there are always people who can't have babies and who would love to have a baby that has been aborted. KEEP YOUR PANTS ON IF YOU CAN'T FREAKIN RAISE A BABY!
THAT'S JUST SAD...BUT SOMEONE SHOULD WHOOP THE MAMA'S A** B/C SHE KNEW SHE WAS PREGNANT 23 WEEKS PRIOR...IF NOT 23 WEEKS ATLEAST 10 OUTTA 23...WHY EVEN WAIT THAT LONG TO ABORT YOUR CHILD? ------ I agree, she and the doctor should be held responsible! I knew many people who had late term abortions, but this here is extremly LONG!
cont....I don't want to seem harsh. I am not telling her what to do with her body, because it is her choice. I know MANY adults and children that are in foster care or have gone through foster care. They tell me they wouldn't wish that on anyone, they have SERIOUS isuues, and psychiatric help couldn't help them. Many of them I know that grew up in foster care are lost souls. When they had kids, they repeated the cycle, and din't want their kids, or gave them up. So, I don't want to judge anyone's decision, because I am not god. But, I just wish she would have gone about it differently!
The mother should be held responsible yes but the doctor, being a "trained professional" should have advised against aborting a baby at that stage of development. Its so sad. She might as well had carried the child to full term and placed it for adoption or at least have the abortion earlier.
@clara, you have some serious issues. You may need to get some counseling boo.
It is a woman's right to decide whether or not she wants to have a child or not.
You women kill me with that nonsense about abortion being wrong. No! What's wrong is bringing a child into this world and not being able to provide for it properly or hating the child and treating it like sh!t, because the father isn't around and you're miserable. It's always the ghetto, hoodrat a$$, loudmouth, welfare receiving b!tches screaming the loudest about aborting a child being wrong. They're the one's constantly spitting out children that they know that they can't take care of, leaving US tax paying citizens to support their child with our hard earned money. PUH-LEASE.
What this doctor did was inhumane and despicable. I hope to see him at LEAST die a slow, painful death--by castration or stragulation. He will pay for doing what he did to this poor baby.
BUT I do not agree with people who say that the mother should be held liable. It was her decision and she did not get any type of forewarning that she would be receiving an abortion from the devil himself. Cut this young girl some slack here. It wasn't her fault- it was, however, this piece of sh!t's fault.
somebody should put ALLLLL they *** in a biohazard bag and throw they *** away! cause clearly they are the HAZARDS to babies!!!!!! it so many kinds of contraception! i hate people like this....no heart at all. how can u live with urself. i hope that baby haunt they ***. BUNCH OF IDIOTS when they go to heaven what the hell they gon tell that baby? (thats if they dont go to hell!) ADOPTION ADOPTION ADOPTION!!!!!!!!!!! CONTRACEPTION CONTRACEPTION CONTRACEPTION!!!!!!!!! people cannot stress these things enough!
RIGHT...IT IS A WOMANS RIGHT TO DO WHAT SHE WANTS WITH HER "BODY" NOT SOMEONES "LIFE!" HER STUPID *** PAID A GRAND TO GET AN ABORTION WHEN SHE COULD HAVE PAID 30 DAM DOLLARS FOR BIRTH CONTROL! OR EVEN BETTER IT COULDA BEEN FREE FOR ADOPTION!!!!! IT WAS GODS WILL FOR THAT BABY TO BE BORN ALIVE AND THEY STILL WENT THROUGH WITH THAT SLAUGHTER PROCEDURE!
