: What a sign of the times... MediaTakeOut.com has learned that Disney is releasing a set of dolls for it's new movie The Frog Princess.
Very interesting .... You know what, this kinda stuff affected us a lot more BEFORE Obama was in office. Now ... NOT SO MUCH ....
Why are you complaining Fred or should I say Lisa. The disney black princess name is Maddy who was brought out in 1992. The frog princess movie will based around New Orleans who lives in the french quarter. Atleast give them some type of acknowledgment that the doll color is correct compare to some other black dolls out here.
"Very interesting .... You know what, this kinda stuff affected us a lot more BEFORE Obama was in office. Now ... NOT SO MUCH .... "
Normally I don't get in to topics like this but this really makes me sick. Disney should have made a Black princess at least 20 YEARS AGO!! It's not like the revenue wasn't there. Our daughters have been looking for a mainstream character that looked like them for years. They have purposefully tried to perpetuate SELF-HATE in the Black community for YEARS!! It's no secret that OLD WALT WAS A RACIST. They didn't want our dollars before and they *** sure don't deserve them now. It might not seem like a big issue to some, but self-hate is RAMPANT in the Black community. Not only because of this, but things like this play a major part.
disney is so racist.......like bush...lol But seriously I am not buying my daughter and disney princess dolls or disney movies. They don't show the beauty of being black.....In pocahontas I know it should have been black people in that movie but they did not put them in it because they were slaves at that time
Walt disney was a racist fuq up hope he's burning in hell right now but this *** is suppose to make us proud like yourgoodhair said they should of came out with something like this a looong time ago theres always a deeper motive/ marketing plan with white people and self hate been part of alot of races not just the black yet you do see a whole lot of Eurocentric beauty in the media but darker skin people of other races have experienced it as well
If disney was really trying to create a black doll...they would create something that the average black lil girl can relate to! my lil girl has curly thick hair! not relaxed bone straight hair! Im sooo freakin tired of all this *** sh!t brainwashing that has continued to ruin our black women and children. Assimilation is a crippling disease.
I would have preferred that the prince not been so ethnically vague. You know, little black boys play with dolls too and we (um...I mean "they") want to see themselves represented as well. Where's the Caesar cut, broad nose and thick lipped princes at. Sh!t I wanna know!
Also I co-sign with the above poster - He does look like Punk LOL
First of all, the male doll is a black man and second, Pocahontas took place at a time where that colony was not bringing in slaves. Education, please is a must. Oh and one more thing, it would be great to see a doll with some curly gems however, that does not translate well to a small Barbie doll. The point of the hair being straight is that little girls want to play with the hair. If it's curly the synthetic fibers will not respond well for hair playing. If the doll is not one you can easily play with the hair being the main money maker, that will not translate into good business for the company. But the doll does seem to have curly hair but loose curls. So, where is the beef?
THIS is TRULY TRULY TRULY ridiculous. WHY are we using this as a FASHION statement.
I hate the taste of SWEATY *** early in the morning. OUR black YOUTH will use this a reason to wear BROWN sandals in the SHOWER.
We should not SUPPORT this if we did not buy a JOCK strap from foot locker. WAKE UP people this is not going to end UNLESS we hold hands and MASTURBATE side by side with CAN openers.
"If disney was really trying to create a black doll...they would create something that the average black lil girl can relate to! my lil girl has curly thick hair! not relaxed bone straight hair!"
@ Joelleen, Tis true the saying, if you want others to accept you, you must first accept yourself. We really cant expect them to make a doll with kinky, coiled hair when most of us actually DONT relate to that. There are so many of us wearing wigs, perms and getting bone straight weaves when it doesnt match our hair genetic or texture at all. Lets be honest, some of us would be complaining that they were making a mockery out of us by making a doll with nappy hair. We still have a long way to go to repair issues in our community with self hate, skin tone and physical features thats needs to be done by us, so we cant expect others to embrace the beauty of our race if we dont own it first and then demand it.
OK MTO this is what u posted:
You know what, this kinda stuff affected us a lot more BEFORE Obama was in office. Now ... NOT SO MUCH ....
NOW WHY WOULD YOU HAVE BEEN EFFECTED WHAT IS WRONG WITH THEM MAKING A BLACK PRINCESS DOLLL? BLACK PEOPLE ARE KINGS AND QUEENS ACTUALLY!!
AND THE PRINCE ISNT WHITE HE LOOKS MIXED TO ME WITH GOOD HAIR AND IF ITS BASED IN NEW ORLEANS THAT HOW THEIR HAIR LOOKS MY DADDY'S GRANDPARENTS WERE FROM THERE AND MY DADDY HAS HAIR LIKE THAT AND COMPLEXION A LITTLE DARKER THAT THE PRINCE SO WHAT IS THE BIG DEAL
RACISM ISNT GOING TO END BECAUSE OF THIS KIND OF JOURNALISM
@missgrownazz
I feel ya... but there are def a lot of woman out there who embrace themselves and love their natural beauty... its taking some time but a lot of woman are waking up and transitioning to natural.... I just wish we as a race could overcome these issues and just learn to love ourselves and each other for the way GOD made us. I teach my lil girl everyday to love her curls.... that way i dont add to the problem
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Im sorry but He dont look white to me!!! HE LOOK LIGHT SKINNED....BUT I GOT A QUESTION....DONT HATE ME FOR THIS(OR DO I DONT CARE) BUT WHY DO BLACK PEOPLE ON THIS SITE SIT HERE *** ACT LIKE U CANT GO TO ANY STORE AND BUY A BLACK DOLL????? CONSIDERING THAT LATINOS ARE THE BIGGEST MINORITY GROUP IN THIS COUNTRY...YOU THINK WE WOULD BE MAD CUZ I CANT FIND A DOLL THAT LOOK LIKE MY KID AT ALL!!! I GOTTA BUT LIGHT SKINNED BLACK DOLLS-THEY DONT HAVE HARDLY ANY HISPANIC TOYS EXCEPT STUPID MEXICAN A$$ DORA &DIEGO!!!!
From www.comingsoon.net, This what one guy had to say!
Posted by: Djones on June 18, 2008 at 18:07:45
I have been a supporter of Disney movies for a while, but was very unpleased in how they never had any african american or blacks in their movies. The Lion King was THE best selling animated move they had and most of the characters in that film were black, but disguised as animals. While i'm happy that The Frog Princess will have a black princess, im displeased that the prince has to be Caucasian...when most of the other princess mates in other movies were of the same ethnicity. (with the exception of Pocahontas) To me I'm offended as a black male because Disney failed to put a black male in a heroic role in this film. The Villian is black male and the Cook (princess father) is black and here comes this "White *** shinning armour" prince to the rescue. I can 100% guarantee you that Disney didnt think ONCE to make Beast a Black male at the end of Beauty and the Beast....do you get my point now? It may seem as if i'm making more of it than it really is, but I think young black kids should see good representation of themselves FROM a company such as Disney and we deserve to see it for as long as many blacks has supported this company. WE DESERVE TO HAVE A BLACK PRINCE AS WELL!
I am literally SICK of everything being as simple as black and white. This is another Racist stupid idea. If you child wants a black doll or a white doll - *** make any difference. Let them choose - because they are choosing for fun purposes, not racial. But to persaude them to buy a black princess with a white prince is just as racist as telling them to buy the black princess that can only be matched with the black prince. See my confusion. Isn't it easier to let them pick out what they want and not associate it with any color at all.
" feel ya... but there are def a lot of woman out there who embrace themselves and love their natural beauty... its taking some time but a lot of woman are waking up and transitioning to natural.... I just wish we as a race could overcome these issues and just learn to love ourselves and each other for the way GOD made us. I teach my lil girl everyday to love her curls.... that way i dont add to the problem"
@ Joelleen, You are right. There are some women who do embrace their natural hair and I love that! But sadly, its not the majority. I feel ya right back girl, I do wish we could overcome our issues as well and wake up and realize how EFFIN BEAUTIFULK BLACK IS!! You are just like me, I tell my daughter how beautiful she is everyday so she will never be ashamed of her color or think that she's unattractive. I am proud to be black, regardless of all of the negative stigma associated with being a black person. I could NEVER wish to be or look like any other race.:)
@***, Whats up girl! *** out to KY!! I'm in Lexington, right next door to ya! And why do you look like you could be Lauryn London's sister in that pic?
Listen up people! The male love interest IS NOT BLACK. Just because the doll looks brown does not mean he is Black.
For those who don't know, the original love interest in this movie was a blond hair, blue eyed [white] prince from New Orleans. However, because of backlash and claims of racism, the male love interest was changed to a Arab prince. Get it already? He's still not Black. Disney, just like other entertainment producers, have absolutely no intent of showing Black love; i.e. a Black male and female together in a healthy and loving relationship. They want to promote this idea that Blacks *need* to be with someone else.
As many Black men (and women) dog Black females on this website, I wouldn't care if this was an actual person. But this is cartoon. How hard is it to make the male character as dark as the female and call him Black? I guess it's easier to concoct a (although not impossible, but HIGHLY unlikely) story about an Arab Prince in New Orleans falling in love with a poor Black girl.
MTO, this film has been in the making since before Obama decided to run. Don't even try to connect him (even vaguely) to this BS. Just because the man is in office DOES NOT mean that somehow America is less racist. Just because the stove ain't red, doesn't mean it's not hot. You believe that "post-racial" America BS and you will get your @zz burned!
And all people of color (brown) do not have to be black in the way that most of us think of black (afro american). There are other races that are of color, and who are considered and treated just as the afro americans, but in their country. So the bottomline is.... no matter what race... brown is brown, it's not white that's for sure, and I don't care what race this prince is, he's brown and an Arab. That's double diss. Black American's do not have a monopoly of the brown skin color.
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For those who don't know, the original love interest in this movie was a blond hair, blue eyed [white] prince from New Orleans. However, because of backlash and claims of racism, the male love interest was changed to a Arab prince. Get it already? -------------------- I see now....
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I have been a supporter of Disney movies for a while, but was very unpleased in how they never had any african american or blacks in their movies. The Lion King was THE best selling animated move they had and most of the characters in that film were black, but disguised as animals. While i'm happy that The Frog Princess will have a black princess, im displeased that the prince has to be Caucasian...when most of the other princess mates in other movies were of the same ethnicity. (with the exception of Pocahontas) To me I'm offended as a black male because Disney failed to put a black male in a heroic role in this film. The Villian is black male and the Cook (princess father) is black and here comes this "White *** shinning armour" prince to the rescue. I can 100% guarantee you that Disney didnt think ONCE to make Beast a Black male at the end of Beauty and the Beast....do you get my point now? It may seem as if i'm making more of it than it really is, but I think young black kids should see good representation of themselves FROM a company such as Disney and we deserve to see it for as long as many blacks has supported this company. WE DESERVE TO HAVE A BLACK PRINCE AS WELL! ***** so what - why can't little black girls find their opposites, black men,attractive as their partners? Is this a subconscious way to fade us out? wtf, read between the lines PEOPLE, AMERICA DOES NOT WANT TO SEE BLACK COUPLES TOGETHER!
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For those who don't know, the original love interest in this movie was a blond hair, blue eyed [white] prince from New Orleans. However, because of backlash and claims of racism, the male love interest was changed to a Arab prince. Get it already? He's still not Black. Disney, just like other entertainment producers, have absolutely no intent of showing Black love; i.e. a Black male and female together in a healthy and loving relationship. They want to promote this idea that Blacks *need* to be with someone else. ***
TEACHTEACHTEACHTEACH. sigh. Black thought is alive and well. Keep hope alive.
CharmedArts1, I LOVE UR POST AND I AGREE WITH IT ONLY 95%, BECAUSE THOUGH IT MAY BE AN ARAB PRINCE THAT DOESN'T MEAN HE'S NOT BLACK. ARABS MY DEAR ARE ALSO BLACK AND FOR THOSE OF THEM WHO WANT TO DISPUTE IT, THEY SHOULD DO A LITTLE RESEARCH. NEVERTHELESS, ALOT OF ARABS ALSO HAVE THEIR OWN RACISM GOING ON AMOUGST EACH OTHER, LIGHTER ONES ARE ARABS, DARKER ONES ARE BLACK. GO FIGURE. EVERYBODY ACTS LIKE EBING BLACK IS HORRIBLE. SAD WORLD WE LIVE IN
ecuasionz Flag post Walt Disney was a very powerful WIZARD. You should see the *** on how he built Disney world. Wizardry at it's finest(or most evil, depending how you look at it) Don't let his movies curse your kids.WORD!! ----------- I haven't seen the *** but I have seen how they put those tricks to enter your childs subconcious, sexual perversion./ you always coming with the deal, where can I find that ***?
People are saying it doesn't matter but it does matter. What message are we sending to black little boys?! That as men they won't be wanted?! That another race would be desired and fit for royalty by the black woman?!
That saddens my heart, our young men are already in trouble because how the system works out.:(
That is not acceptable.
I don't have a problem with interracial dating when you are dealing with adults who are MATURE enough to make their own decisions. When it comes to children HELL NO, excluding a gender of a race is not acceptable.
Children simulating interracial dating is cool, be we as adults need to send the message that black love is great to our girls and boys.
===== People stop letting your children watch Hannah Montana. It's poisonous when she is brown hair and blue eyes she is like everyone else but when she has a blonde wig on she's a ***! Get the fcuk out of here! *smh*
So what if he were white? It's like like brothers care who we date/marry anymore. Besides alot of you are sleeping on WHITE men. They're sexual prowess, romantic gestures, flirtatious talk, etc is ON POINT and killing that of any black man (AT least the ONES I WAS INVOLVED WITH) anyway. She's pretty and her Prince is too cute.
GuessJeans...so sad. You seem to have attracted only black bums and think they are a representation of MOST Black men. You are sadly mistaken. Don't give up on the brothers.
THANK YOU to joellen,msgrownazz, and tiff2fresh!! You hit the nail right on the head. I will not be going to this *** movie or buying any of the products related to it. It cracks me up how threated yt's are concerning Black on Black love. THEY HATE IT. Why? I am sooo indifferent to them getting together so why are they so concerned about Blacks being together. Better yet why was it all good when they were in the business of breeding slaves but as soon as that was abolished the tables turned and they never want to see us on TV, Movie screen, plays, books etc. loving each other? Is it because they feel threatened by our unions? Our offspring? Our united minds? Think about it.
And could one of you who has used the term SO MUCH please explain to me what good hair is? This is the stupidest term I have ever heard. I mean is there a type of hair that mugs people and doesn't pay it's child support? I don't get it.
Almadesouls Flag post First of all, the male doll is a black man and second, Pocahontas took place at a time where that colony was not bringing in slaves. Education, please is a must. Oh and one more thing, it would be great to see a doll with some curly gems however, that does not translate well to a small Barbie doll. The point of the hair being straight is that little girls want to play with the hair. If it's curly the synthetic fibers will not respond well for hair playing. If the doll is not one you can easily play with the hair being the main money maker, that will not translate into good business for the company. But the doll does seem to have curly hair but loose curls. So, where is the beef? [SPAM][SPAM]_____________
Actually Black people were living in America prior to the first Black slave being introduced here so that is no excuse to not have Blacks depicted in the movie.
Also maybe curly nappy hair doesn't translate well to YOU as a consumer but why not those who love that hair type? Give me a break. Naps are tight curls and I love playing in it. When i was little I used to chop off my dollies hair or never comb it so it would dread up like my beautiful aunty. So speak for yourself when you make the statement "The point of the hair being straight is that little girls want to play with the hair." Because little Black girls have been braiding and playing in each other's nappy thick healthy hair for CENTURIES!
He's not white.
Anyway,
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Whites know that prejudiced white men will never take their daughter to see a black prince because it puts black men in a positive, powerful light.
They brainwash their women and our women and every race of women into believing anything is better than a black man from the time these women are babies.
suprsoul Flag post IT'S FUNNY HOW THE BLACK WOMEN GET SO FIRED UP ABOUT BLACK MEN & WHITE WOMEN, BUT TURN THE TABLE & IT'S "OK". IT'S JUST SOCIETY "CHANGING".LOL Y'ALL FUNNY! [SPAM][SPAM]_____________
idiot have you even been reading the comments??? BLACK WOMEN AND MEN ALIKE ARE NOT FEELING THIS ***. You sound like one of them white chicks with jealousy issues related to the Black woman...with your selective reading. Wow.
Bitter women need to *** the fcuk up downing the black man when it comes to this post. IT AIN'T ABOUT YOU, how "black men don't want us" (which means you, dont put me into this). It's about what they are trying to mentally feed our CHILDREN more importantly our sons, but you are so caught up in your *** that you don't see it.
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STAYPOPPIN01 Flag post Whites know that prejudiced white men will never take their daughter to see a black prince because it puts black men in a positive, powerful light.
They brainwash their women and our women and every race of women into believing anything is better than a black man from the time these women are babies. ---------------
Staypoppin why do you realize this only when it pertains to the brothers? lmao
@realwoman- I see your point. However, I'm not sad girl. I'm happy and at peace with my choice in who I married. Anyway back to the topic. I think Disney may have paired this princess with a non-black man because they are concerned about ratings and attracting a diverse audience. Let's face it. We are a minority and Disney (their movies anyway) draws a prodominantly white audience. In order to make more of a profit from this film, they chose to pair the princess with a non-black prince so that all little girls and boys could identify with the character.
But do you know what's really bothering? Why is it that we ALWAYS DEMAND more diversity from WHITE OWNED WALT DISNEY and other WHITE owned franchaises? Why we can never CREATE our own PRODUCT that is a REPRESENTATION of ourselves?
We're always so quick to DEMEAN and BELITTLE the white man for NOT having US play a part in HIS BUSINESS YET we aren't so DEMANDING of our OWN BLACK producers/directors.
HELLO. The last time I checked DISNEY was a WHITE man, with a WHITE business, with WHITE employees, and had a predominantly WHITE audience. Who is he suppose to represent? US??? Yeah right give me a break. It's like watching a BOLLYWOOD movie (Indian Hollywood movies/films production) and COMPLAINING when we see a majority of INDIANS/Pakistanis nabbing acting roles rather than US. It's absurd.
I'm so sick of us always LOOKING UP to the WHITE man for some *** HAND OUT! Why aren't we AS DEMANDING of our POWERFUL blacks in Hollywierd. Demand Spike or Singleton to create a children's film that will represent us in a favorable light. Let's demand Tyler Perry or Oprah to promote more black owned businesses in their shows.
We have been here in this country for FAR TOO LONG to NOT have ANYTHING. Let's quit being so dependent on WHITE MEN for every *** thing. We got the resources, money, time, etc at our feet but we don't know how to bring it about to further ourselves.
So QUIT bashing on DISNEY or SPEILBERG or any other WHITE man about how he wants to run HIS company. If we created our OWN ENTERTAINMENT enterprises we wouldn't be having these problems.
The White man are ALWAYS, ALWAYS, ALWAYS going to do for THEIR PEOPLE FIRST, SECOND, THIRD, and just maybe someone else will come a distant fourth. So let's stop judging and asking "why he won't do this or that". ***. It's 2009. We got to start making THINGS happen FOR OURSELVES!!!!
I'm sorry ya'll for the long rant but these comments are making me extremely upset. We always looking for a *** hand-out from the white man . We have lived here toooo *** long to KNOW he isn't about to give us s h i t. No reparations, no I.O.U's, no apoligies for slavery, etc.
We got to start doing for ourselves. Ya'll sat there yesterday Dogging the *** out of Tyler Perry for creating his own sit-coms the way he saw fit. Instead of congratulating a brother, some of you were complaining then:
"oh he so ghetto",
"oh he bamboozling us",
"oh he need to stop the coonery". It's like what the hell do ya'll want. Can't we as black americans congratulate a BROTHER who OPENED the FIRST BLACK OWNED MOVIE studio?! ***. Successful Black folks can't win for nothing with some of ya'll. I'm sick of the negativity. This is why we can never go from A to B. We always complaining and bickering. Meanwhile we quick to look up to Massa and wonder why he "isn't showing us love through representing our image". Get out of here with that nonsense.
If they are so concerned about ratings than why did they put out aladdin RIGHT after the persian gulf war. WHY DID THEY PUT OUT ALADDIN AT ALL CUZ THERE WERE NO PALE PEOPLE IN THAT MOVIE?!! Yes aladdin is a arab but most don't know the difference between an arab and a persian they all see middle eastern.
We DID HAVE OUR OWN THINGS but they went away with integration instead of supporting our own we went to caucasian neighborhoods and supported them because we could finally got to shop there so there went the black business.
The reason why people are not out going for business for themselves is because education to get a good job is pushed and favored not owning your own business or getting an education then owning your own business.
People are so happy when they have a "good" job and everyone appluads them but when people start talking about owning their own business people look at them like their crazy.
the_misses Flag post @realwoman
I couldn't disagree more. I think now a days its blacks giving blacks a bad name. yes there are racist white people out there but I think you will find the same amount of racist black people.
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As defined by WHITE people...blacks in America can't be racist, so what are you talking about??? The definition of racism clearly states that the prejudicial behavior based on race has to be performed by a MAJORITY in order for it to be considered racist. Yes you would say you 'think' instead of you know because you are pulling this stuff out of the air. Show me an instance where Blacks have initiated mass genocide, poison, deliberate restrictions on education, salary, transportation, dining, restroom usage etc. on another group based solely on their RACE. Puhleeze...
The misses
FYI Blacks have to deal with job discrimination. Harvard did a study and came to the conclusion that havivng black skin is equivalent to havibg a felony when looking for a job.
You think that might fall under HOLDING US BACK?? White men have a high number of fatherless kids as well. It's not just our problem, ours is just publicized, that's all.
Explain all of those child molestations in you race!!! Whites kill me with this "Whites are perfect BS!!! LOL!!!
I think the Prince is going to be a white Spainard but they should have made the doll pale white, with blue eyes and blonde hair. Why do a half azz job of making the first black Disney princess be realistic in who she would date? And how many brothers actually have a preference for women the color of this Princess? Disney is no fool.
Just the mere fact that white men feel the need to constantly attack and minimize other races of men turns me off to them. STAYPOPPIN01 your take on white men was right on the mark.
They do the same thing with Asian men and their women. Look at video done by a WHITE BOY entitled,"Why Asian Girls Go For White Guys". The Asian women are so brainwashed against their own men it's sad and I see major similarity between them and some of our sisters.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SI3lPLsbwjw
STAYPOPPIN01 Flag post Real Woman
For one, you have a black woman doll as a princess?? Where is her black prince???? [SPAM][SPAM]_____________
No I agree about that...just saying that I recognize the problem for BOTH sides. It's no different than how they are always pairing Black men with non Black women on television and movies. Save the Last Dance, O, Step up 2 the Streets, In the Mix, every tv show Taye Diggs has been on, Grey's Anatomy, ER etc....don't you notice the only time they seem to have a functioning relationship is when there is no black woman involved?
FOR THE PEOPLE ARE SAYING THAT BLACK PEOPLE NEED TO STOP CRYING ABOUT THE CAUCASIAN MAN
The government sets black people up against each other from slavery until now. The slave can not get freedom from the slave owner they have to liberate themselves. After slavery people we were STILL enslaved in the mind and were passing that down generation to generation. THEN we started to do our own research about our history and started to feel good about our selves with the BLACK POWER and our men WERE CALLING US QUEENS. Then the women liberation movement put us against men BUT THAT AIN'T THE ICING!! The welfare programs did and still do a job on our people SECTION 8 FOR EXAMPLE A MAN CAN'T BE PRESENT LIVING IN THE HOME. So there goes the FATHER FIGURE, women saw that they were doing it by themselves and LET WELFARE BREAK AWAY OUR FAMILIES.
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I've never liked Disney, Warner Bros, Hanna-Barbara and all those other racist cartoon corporations. They indoctrinate their sick ideas into impressionable young kid's mind from a young age with subliminal filth. Makes me sick.
On a slightly different tagent, did you ever notice how racist the cartoon Wiylie Coyote and The Road Runner was? A the Coyote represented a black anorexic man on weed (hence the yellow eyes) chasing an anorexic chicken (roadrunner). And instead of the Coyote using the money to feed himself or liberate his brothers he uses his money to buy all those useless weapons to catch that chicken. Pure racist filth.
@realwoman I have noticed the black man with a non black woman in movies. It is heavily supported by mainstream media. When it comes to black love portrayed in movies if it's not a historical movie than black media ends up supporting the movie by themselves without the budgets of a black man with a non black woman. Then when it comes out to for the movie to be promoted we don't know about it till the week of compared to months in advance of the sneak peeks they have on these tabloid shows.
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"they should have made the doll pale white, with blue eyes and blonde hair. Why do a half azz job of making the first black Disney princess be realistic in who she would date? "
OH HOW SAD! Pale white?!? Is that a step up for you? Disgusting!! Many brothers DO appreciate the color of this Princess but it's YOU that probably have the issue not Black men.I don't see white men rushing to give Gabby Union acting roles but yet I see many brothers checking for her . Even video women like Buffie and Melyssa Ford owe their notoriety to Black men. White men aren't doing them any favors. Problem is when our men praise our beauty, some sisters minimize it and say, "oh well a Black man will *** anything with a big ***" or "Black men are too aggressive. " If you want a white man go for yours but don't blame Black men for not wanting you,just admit YOU don't want them.
GuessJeans Flag post @realwoman- I see your point. However, I'm not sad girl. I'm happy and at peace with my choice in who I married. Anyway back to the topic. I think Disney may have paired this princess with a non-black man because they are concerned about ratings and attracting a diverse audience. Let's face it. We are a minority and Disney (their movies anyway) draws a prodominantly white audience. In order to make more of a profit from this film, they chose to pair the princess with a non-black prince so that all little girls and boys could identify with the character.
But do you know what's really bothering? Why is it that we ALWAYS DEMAND more diversity from WHITE OWNED WALT DISNEY and other WHITE owned franchaises? Why we can never CREATE our own PRODUCT that is a REPRESENTATION of ourselves?
I AGREE WITH THIS...but I do not agree that we are always beggin for handouts. Please with that...
WHITES were the ones who enslaved people BASED ON THEIR RACE. They were the ones who came to this country begging the indians for a place to stay and food to eat. Then they begged Blacks to help them build up a country they wrongfully claimed as their own. THEN they begged to send everyone back once they weren't able to use and abuse as please. Don't give me this *** about Blacks being beggars and crybabies as if this country has always been fair to us. Keep it real. Racism is alive and kicking today and it is affecting MORE than just Black people. If it weren't for Blacks DEMANDING (not begging) for equal rights via the civil rights movement none of the other disadvantaged groups (white women, asians, irish, hispanic) would have come so far WITH us.
Remember Black women are being educated at higher rates than EVER. Black men and women are also becoming business owners or obtaining careers at a higher rate. Don't even get me started on the increase of GRADUATE degrees as well. As a people we are doing pretty *** well considering the centuries of unfair treatment and roadblocks put in our way and I am PROUD TO BE A BLACK WOMAN and descendant of these people with all their strength! We are not perfect but we sure are survivors.
@allahuakbar
The video was deep! I never realize how some Asian women look down upon their own men and they way they were cheesing for the white boy behind the camera. You also notice none of the Asian males the white boy interview were strong looking ones. They have some and I'm sure the white boy avoided them.
How true about west virginia and other parts of the south. Some of our people need to read more at least if they can't travel. Listen to conservative talk radio just to see what the other side is saying about us. These "we are the world" types are sleep walkers and now with Obama in the White House their even more complacent.
Superwoman Flag post Just the mere fact that white men feel the need to constantly attack and minimize other races of men turns me off to them. STAYPOPPIN01 your take on white men was right on the mark.
They do the same thing with Asian men and their women. Look at video done by a WHITE BOY entitled,"Why Asian Girls Go For White Guys". The Asian women are so brainwashed against their own men it's sad and I see major similarity between them and some of our sisters.
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You make some good points but I see the similarity moreso amongst them and our BLACK MEN. Think about it. Black women are not ditching their men for white men like Asian women are. We also aren't going thru plastic surgery to emulate their look (maybe the hair though)nor are we even close in percentages when it comes to their numbers and interracial dating and procreation. As weird as this is going to sound our brainwashing still allows us to want and be with men of our own race...the numbers don't lie. What we do is because of the desires of some brainwashed Black men.
@superwoman
it's women like you who when I wonder is it worth being the way I am , a Defender of Black Women, Family,Love, worth it, always give me new life because when I read a lot of these sistas comments on this blog, and I know it's for entertainment purposes, but the things they say/ the men also, make me want to just let them rot from within. Elijah Muhammad said that the last weapon to destroy us would be intermixing and intergration and they fell for it!
@realwoman- me,too! lol..
People are really deluded on this post it's not just toys. When it comes to marketing, there are people that are so smart they can make anything look appealing and sell it. For example soulja boy's crank that soulja boy when MOST first heard that they were like that's dumb as fcuk then it was played so *** much that we got used to and started to like it. The surprising thing about that song that when it was first released they played it on pop radio stations that caucasians listen to when in kansas city it usually have to be popular on hip hop stations before it is played on the pop stations ESPECIALLY when it comes to HIP HOP newbies. Another point when it comes to interracial movies if they keep putting movies out like those of course people are going think it's the norm and the thing to do. MOST WANT TO BE ACCEPTED by the majority rather they are aware of it or not. MOST people are followers. There are actually people out there who uses movies as references as if they are fact, LMAO. I'm not knocking interracial couples at all but when it comes to MEDIA and what they put out their is always a bigger picture than what is perceived.
the_misses there is a difference between thinking for yourself and just making up your own definition for stuff. One is admirable and the other is just foolish. You *** have gotten mad at me correcting you. I didn't have to google the definition because I KNEW IT ALREADY but suggested you do a google before you start spewing off at the mouth, that is all. Hey some people are blissful in their ignorance...so moving along.
The FACT of the matter is that there are some Blacks who are in denial about what is going on in this country and only feel good when they are blaming themselves for the messed up state of race relations in this country. READ RETAIN EDUCATE MUSE and stop making *** up... THEN make up your mind on how you feel about the FACTS.
GODFAV
The welfare programs did and still do a job on our people SECTION 8 FOR EXAMPLE A MAN CAN'T BE PRESENT LIVING IN THE HOME. So there goes the FATHER FIGURE, women saw that they were doing it by themselves and LET WELFARE BREAK AWAY OUR FAMILIES. - - - - - - - - - - -
Excellent point! I wrote something similar the other day. Btw that fruity looking prince does not look like Obama. The President doesn't have animal hair on his head like prince fruit cake up top.
@the_misses
YOU SAD EXCUSE FOR A HUMAN BEING *** THE FCUK UP.
HAVE YOU EVER HEARD OF THE *** MOORS YOU DUMB BROAD?!
Not everyone that looks like they are from africa are from africa SOME OF US WERE ALREADY HERE. You low self esteem piece of ***. Why don't you start loving yourself instead of using all you're energy to try and put down a group.
GET THE FCUK OF THIS POST AND QUIT TRYING TO START ***, YOU ARE AN EXAMPLE OF HOW SOMETHING SO BEAUTIFUL AS THE MIND IS HARDLY USED.
I won't be replying to your ignorant response ( no i'm not psychic you are just predictable.)
When it comes to Hollywood's fixation with pairing a white woman with a Black man on screen,ironically enough it's the white man's agenda. His technique of watering down darker races as well as dividing and conquering them along *** lines goes back thousands of years. A white woman would never have the guts to stand up to her white male counterparts in Hollywood and demand a Black male lead. NO MATTER HOW MUCH HER VAGINA CRAVES THEM!! White women LIKE MOST FEMALES are spineless when it comes to calling a white man what he is.This is why Black women who get upset with Black men for their absence as love interest in Hollywood movies are fools. BLAME YOUR MASA!!! Now since the white female benefits the most from her white male's deviltry, she most be considered equally as heinous and criminal. Do you think the white girl friend of the MURDERED Mississippi football player, Billey Joe Johnson,will speak out on his behalf? Will she fight to bring his REAL KILLER OR KILLERS to justice? Don't hold your breath and that's precisely why I don't give a fck about a white b!tch.
*** WHERE ALL THE BLACK WOMEN PRSING WHITE MEN? THEY SOHOULD BE GLAD THAT DISNEY IS PAIRING A BLACK PRINCESS WITH A WHITE PRINCE! WHY? ( BECAUSE IT PROVES THAT THE WHITE MAN IS GOD TO THE BLACKWOMEN AND HE ALWAYS HAS BEEN WELL SINCE SLAVERY) BUT GUESS WHAT THAT BLACK MAN DOESNT YOU NEED US! YOU AND YOUR WHITE MAN CAN HAVE EACH OTHER THE BLACK MAN IS BETTER THE WHITE MAN THATS WHY THEY OPPRESS THE BLACK MAN THEY WANNA BE US DEEP DOWN INSIDE AND THE BLACK WOMEN IS NOTHING AND WILL NEVER BEING ANYTHING WITHOUT A BLACK MAN BLACK MAN CREATED SO MANY THINGS ON THIS PLANET WHAT DID BLACK WOMEN DO? NOT A *** THING SO AS FAR AS IM CONCERNED IF ANY OF YOU BLACK WOMEN WHAT A WHITE MAN GO FOR IT BESIDES THE BLACK MAN IS ABOUT TO *** OVER MOST YOU UNGRATEFUL BEOUCHES ANYWAY
@EVERYONE WHO IS FOR LOVING OUR RACE.
People who are for black people and making us better as a people plz ignore all these ignorant and bitter *** posters who wait on mto to get a chance to put down our women and/or our men. Which is pathetic because instead of working on themselves and uplifting our fallen brothers and sisters they use their energy to separate us and put us against each other (rather they realize it or not) to justify their bitterness. Some of our own are white supremacists and don't even realize it. YES one can be noncaucasian and be a white supremacists because they make excuses and sometime support the system's plans of destruction, separation and to humiliation of our race, men and women (consciously or subconsciously they are still doing it).
See, Hollywood don't understand us minorities for the most part. They try to appease us by producing projects that are long overdue. However, we keep *** them down. All the time we *** something down. I have to tell you, it wears very thin on people who are really trying hard to put out a great product. It can come to a point where they don't want to touch ANYTHING that includes any black or Hispanic character. It's true. We don't find anything good about anything that plays to a mass audience. It doesn't bode well on our part and we really need to pick and choose our battles. First of all, Disney employs a lot of artists who run across the ethnic spectrum. Do you really believe for one second they do not have African-American artists working on this movie? Really? Do you think of yourself so badly that you don't believe a person of color can be hired at a huge company such as Disney to oversee projects? Think about it.
Yall know that quote "the greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he doesn't exist" For real, that really applies to all of you who are like, 'so what' and 'whatever'. The point is Disney could have made billions of dollars over the last 20 years by producing movies and all that comes with it that showcased Black love, Black princesses, and Black heroes. They CHOSE not to. There is a BIGGER AGENDA here that is standing right in front of your faces but its BLINDING YOU!
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@Almadesouls
Oh sure! Black people are hired BUT WHAT KIND OF BLACK PEOPLE?? That's the question! White people have studied us and know which ones of us serve their best interest. If I were in charge of that project,you best believe the male prince would not be designed to look like Julio "Fruit Cake" Hernandez up top.
i think it's beautiful to see a black doll and white man doll together...kudos to disney!!!!
and before any black dudes say a word ask yourself this-
did you have *** to say when will smith was in a movie with a white leading actress?
did you have *** to say when denzel played opposite a white woman in "devil in a blue dress"
exactly, so zip it
I'm gonna say this and I'm done. So what if the man looks lightskinned, biracial, multiracial, blah blah blah. If this were truly a movie to finally breakdown racial barriers of Disney, the male character would look like the MAJORITY of Blacks that live in this country, you know the ones that employers tend to throw their job applications in the garbage before reviewing because of prejudicial stereotypes.
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What about all the rap videos featuring dark skinned Black men and fair-skinned women. Diddy and AKon etc. use only white or fair-skinned women. Basically if she is dark only her *** is shown and if she is very fair-skinned in music videos she is the "trophy." Disney is coming out with this since everybody loves the Obama kids.
We should remember Malcolm X. Stop expecting/asking whites to do/create something for us. We have the resources to create our own dolls/toys for kids.
@BrAinsBeAutyandBo0ty
I peeped that too. What I found interesting was that his opposite was a caucasian female. He was defending her off of racists was beat up and lost his memory of who he was because of the *** whopping. When they meet back up she is with a caucasian male. He finds him self attracted to her. Later on he finds out who he is then moves away (noting that she is still with her husband even though they were supposed to be a pair)
Earlier in the movie he is told they are angels, gods... hmm... Gods so here you have a "god" who is acting out of his lower nature ( a point to make of the stereotype of black men being put on the pedestal of sexual superiority when it comes to size and skill) even when he accepts his past of who he is he still has a bit of that attitude which shown in the last scene then you have the caucasian female who is a "god" and she appears all squeaky clean and perfect.
That movies has alot of theories about it's symbolism that was just one of them.
Gawd damnit can't we just be happy for one second? Why does everything always gotta be a race issue? Disney finally made a black princess, and ya'll STILL finds somethin to b!tch about! We have a black PRESIDENT...again...STILL complaining! That sh!t is weak, just be happy for a moment, just one little second. AND maybe the prince isn't white...but he's not black. Who cares! Seriously, there are bigger issues in the world other than cartoons and dolls. Oh, one more thing...some people talkin trash about interracial couples...uh, hello, Obama? Did ya'll forget his mama's white? Ya'll quick to claim the black side, but convienently dismiss his the other 50% of him SMH...ya'll are a trip.
PEOPLE PLEASE UNDERSTAND THIS IS SHOULD NOT BE ABOUT WELL THERE ARE MOVIES ABOUT BLACK MEN WITH NON BLACK WOMEN SO BLACK WOMEN SHOULD HAVE NONBLACK MEN IN MOVIES TOO.
This is a movie GEARED towards our children, our younger sisters and brothers. Again:
What message are we sending to black little boys?! That as men they won't be wanted?! That another race would be desired and fit for royalty by the black woman?! MEANING that a black woman is a queen when she has a non-black man wtf?!!
Our male youth are already in deep trouble because of lack of fathers in the home, this gangster mentality that perpetuated in our movies and music and SO MUCH MORE. STOP MAKING THIS ABOUT YOURSELF AND "GETTING EVEN" open your eyes and see the bigger picture. THINK PEOPLE THINK!!!
Themisses
That's the point, you were a little boy I wasn't. They talked about that OJ case for years. On CNN, talk shows, sitcoms etc. If you read Johnnie Cochran's book, you'd laugh at the evidence Mark Furman planted. He didn't even do it right. A child could've done a better job. The prosecution never had a case.
You see how you call the man gulity without reviewing the evidence. Typical racist! FYI I just used OJ as an example.
POPPIN
Still busting heads I see. Don't even waste your breath. I can only take the, "I just don't get it." retorts for so long. They know but it benefits them to act as if they don't, so they throw out all these "exceptions" to try and make ish seem like it's equal.
You have to realize..even the most liberal white person won't ever admit certain things because there will never come a day they'll hand over the privileges white skin affords them.
@Conscious1
Have you heard of Tim Wise and his speeches?! The only reason I bring him up is that speaks REALITY and yet even some of his own people call him a race trader, n*gger lover accuse him of being against his own race. When he is not he see's the destruction of racism and white supremacy and how it affects all caucasians not excluded. How it in the material and physical world it benefits caucasians but it sickens them in the mind, and one is nothing without the mind.
milatanti@Man *** the hell up ypu dont really see no black women on here praising the *** the first thing i thought was why wasnt it a black women and a black man not some light as man but a brown or dark skin man yeah black men invented alot but black men raised and took care of yo *** you wouldnt be *** with out a strong black women every real man knows that they are only as strong as there women.black men stand up plesas
Yeah, this movie has been in the works for years but suddenly you get a black couple in office and now it's "upcoming..." As far as I'm concerned, people don't even care about Barbie like that anymore and still wouldn't if it weren't for Mattel suing the makers of Bratz dolls and everything...maybe this will be positive to somebody else, but it doesn't mean a *** thing to me.
govfav said.....
What message are we sending to black little boys?! That as men they won't be wanted?! That another race would be desired and fit for royalty by the black woman?! MEANING that a black woman is a queen when she has a non-black man wtf?!!
great point! its so much stuff that trys to make Black men feel like we are not worthy or not good enough as other men adn these dolls are one of them.
@ simply red: As usual folks blowing ish out of proportion before they know the facts. And that prince is NOT WHITE...get real MTO...starting drama...What no more CB and Ri-Ri mess to stir up. ========================== Exactly right! The Prince IS NOT White but a Mulatto/Creole! Duh???? Isn't this set in New Orleans? I thought ya'll we're smarter than that!
GODFAV Flag post @Conscious1
Have you heard of Tim Wise and his speeches?! The only reason I bring him up is that speaks REALITY and yet even some of his own people call him a race trader, n*gger lover accuse him of being against his own race. When he is not he see's the destruction of racism and white supremacy and how it affects all caucasians not excluded. How it in the material and physical world it benefits caucasians but it sickens them in the mind, and one is nothing without the mind. ===================================
That name does ring a bell. They'll try and silence him because he has the "inside" tip. You see, when "others" speak on it, we're easily disregarded and told we're using the "race card". What can you tell a WHITE man who speaks on the SAME racial inequality?
Kilikana and others with this 'just be happy da white man even paying attention to ah ***' mentality GO SOMEWHERE WITH YUH CRUMBS!
Why the hell should I be happy that white people decided to make a cartoon with a Black princess for the first time in decades and when they did decide to do that they made sure the man she is with doesn't look too too black? You all sound like some straight up uncle toms just happy to be getting attn from chez yt. Me? I am happy when I see a brother or sister making those moves and representing my people in the right way.
I am not going to jump for joy just because white people have decided to acknowledge us. I was already being acknowledged by those who care for me. I actually would LOVE it if they left the black interpretaion to Black people and it would be nice to see them support the venture of blacks entertainment made and performed BY BLACKS but IT IS DEFINITELY NOT NECESSARY or NEEDED.
Thanks again Staypoppin and Godfav....
clarkekent3000 Flag post @ simply red: As usual folks blowing ish out of proportion before they know the facts. And that prince is NOT WHITE...get real MTO...starting drama...What no more CB and Ri-Ri mess to stir up. ========================== Exactly right! The Prince IS NOT White but a Mulatto/Creole! Duh???? Isn't this set in New Orleans? I thought ya'll we're smarter than that! =============================================
Let's stop this.
DO YOU THINK THEIR TARGET AUDIENCE (little kids) know the difference? I mean really. Does a 4,5,6,7, year old know what "Creole" is? No. All they'll see is a *** near white person with a dark female and start to believe that's how it's supposed to be. We have been dealing with these people too long to act as if we don't know there's always a nefarious behavior behind anything they do...especially when they're masking it as helping think Native Americans *wink*)the people they HATE.
So Disney finally decides to give black people some shine by making black doll a princess and the best they could come up with is a man who doesn't look black (to the point where ADULTS can't even tell and are on here debating his ethnicity)?
Can someone answer me what's so wrong with people who look like each other being together? It used to be that blacks weren't good enough for their precious whites, now they're saying blacks aren't good enough for blacks!!!!
3am_girl Flag post i think it's beautiful to see a black doll and white man doll together...kudos to disney!!!!
and before any black dudes say a word ask yourself this-
did you have *** to say when will smith was in a movie with a white leading actress?
did you have *** to say when denzel played opposite a white woman in "devil in a blue dress"
exactly, so zip it - - - - - - - - -
AND WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT CASTING MORON??? You're probably white anyway. Again Black people you must be aware of the devilish nature of these C rackers. They ( Hollywood) purposely do this ( IR CASTING ) and then other C rackers who fully understand the game,come on MTO and pretend to be Black, attempting to assist in the divide and conquer strategy.
you know what @GODFAV..never could get into that movie long enough to finish it..It just makes me sick how it appears that not only the media but society has to make anything associated with African Americans...negative,poor,ignorant, or just makes our existance seem altogether unimportant or mediocre..I wish that some of our role models...actors..goverment officials would step up for us just a little bit more...show these PEOPLE we are not inferior !
DaisyDooks @realwoman - In Africa, we have been invaded, raped, enslaved, colonized and have whole nations of *** in the North (Libya, Egypt, Morocco) and have light skinned tribes (or members) scattered around the continent from interracial *** between Whites and Blacks that has occurred for over a thousand years…but we still are an overwhelming Black people possessing the crown that God put on our heads from the beginning of the earth. We have never been treated well by those small numbers of mulattoes and mixed race Africans who inhabit Africa—most of whom would kill you if you called them “black.” [SPAM][SPAM]____________
THANK YOU! and still we RISE. This is the type of stuff we need to focus our attention on. OUR STRENGTH through it all. The day that Black people realize what they have really been through and how they have made it, is the day that yt is most afraid of.
There are Blacks right here in this country who want to fight you if you refer to them as BLACK and insist they are Brown, mulatto, got indian in 'em, etc. ANYTHING BUT BLACK...to me they are just as dangerous as the white supremacist because they are wolves in sheeps clothing ready to sell out for the same wolves who are waiting to eat them up.
I am tired of arguing the same point you made above with Blacks who INSIST that Black people come in all shades and have since the dawn of time. IT IS NOT TRUE. Look to the continent of Africa and just do a little math. Please! Look at all the areas where there are lighter Africans and then trace on the map to where the nearest white land is or ask if that land was ever colonized by whites. It really is simple to see that those lighter Africans are that way because of race mixing. I appreciate the beauty of our welcoming hands but it is also a bittersweet part of our being...
@3am WTF? Who said we HAVE to hate anyone or even do? Since when is calling out the negative ways of SOME people within a race mean you hate them? When you correct your children or let them know that they are doing something that is wrong does that mean you hate them? I didn't think so...
Truth023 what is wrong with loving someone with the same complexion as you? That is the question most people are asking here. What is MOST pathetic is the need of the white *** run media to make a majority of their depictions of us WARPED. Think about it..if you were an alien who managed to get some Earthling tv reception and all you knew about Earth was what you saw on AMERICAN television or big screen..would you think it was the norm for Black people to date each other? This whole we are the world *** is really corny...that is not the world we live in right now. Being in denial doesn't it make it come faster either. We need to realize what we are dealing with and FIX IT not IGNORE IT.
@qweennique
Trying to take a mile would be asking for them to produce an interracial couple. Think about it. That's not the NORM. It's the EXCEPTION. They are going OUT OF THEIR WAY. Black is to black as white is to white. It should be instinctually that a black man would be to a black woman. *Ahem* let me rephrase for the tree huggers. A VISUALLY Afro (LOOKING) man would be to a VISUALLY Afro (LOOKING) woman.
Didn't Barbie have her Ken?
realwoman Flag post @3am WTF? Who said we HAVE to hate anyone or even do? Since when is calling out the negative ways of SOME people within a race mean you hate them? When you correct your children or let them know that they are doing something that is wrong does that mean you hate them? I didn't think so..
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i've never had a white person kill a member of my family or friends but somehow i know quite a few who are underground right now at the hands of other black men, my brother being one amongst them
LuMBerJACkPlaiD Flag post 3am_girl
SOME OF YALL ARE *** AND THE *** TEND TO BE HOES! NOT ALL, BUT JUST LIKE NOT ALL BLACK WOMEN ARE *** AND HOES, NOT ALL BLACK MEN WANT TO TREAT YOU AS SUCH.
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no one said all black men, i specifically referred to the ones who perpetuate the images seen in rap videos. here you are calling me a *** and you don't know me from adam...later for you losers.
But when does depicting a culture's attitudes and mannerisms turn into racism is the REAL question.
How would WE depict ourselves if we were the ones drawing the cartoons? Would we even know where to start? Everybody's not a rhode scholar and everyone is not Huggy bear but some people ARE so do we act like those parts of our society don't exist or do we SHINE light on them to bring self awareness and CHANGE???
@LuMBerJACkPlaiD
TRUE. I AGREE.
@Girlsluvgems
I JUST LOOKED AT THAT DISNEY LINK, THAT IS RACIST STEROTYPICAL ***.
THIS MOVIE BETTER NOT BE ANYTHING ALONG THE LINES OR I AM STARTING A STRONG BOYCOTT. I AM DEAD SERIOUS. BETTER BE NOTHING, I MEAN NOTHING IN IT THAT CAN BE TAKEN AS OFFENSIVE. EVEN IF IT'S MINOR.
THEY BETTER HAVE A TEAM OF AFRICAN AMERICAN WRITERS ON DECK.
Myself...I feel that Disney did an EXCELLENT job in researching and orchestrating the movie "The Lion King". It was representative of African tribes and even reminded me of "Roots" when Musafa lifted Simba in the air as if to give him back to God as we do in our Chritenings ceremonies. It was a very touching movie and I think Disney did a great job in bringing it together.
I want to believe that the same will happen in this movie. One thing about Disney, they are very detailed in their research when they do movies...thinking on the "Pirates of the Caribbean" trilogy. I thought it was going to be something that I wasn't going to like but that movies just draws you in...
...so I am crossing my fingers that this is something that we can be proud of as well...
@Girlsluvgems
I AGREE WITH YOU, I LOVED THE LION KING. IT WAS BEAUTIFULLY PUT TOGETHER. I WAS KIND OF DISAPPOINTED THAT WE HAD TO BE DEPICTED BY ANIMALS. SUCH A TALE COULD HAVE BEEN THE STORY OF A YOUNG AFRICAN PRINCE. BUT, I LIKED IT THOUGH.
I HOPE THEY PUT TOGETHER A EXCELLENT TEAM OF ARTISTS AND WRITERS AS WELL AS PUT TOGETHER A NICE CAST TO DO THE VOICES.
I HOPE FOR THEIR SAKE THAT THEY DON'T COME WITH ANYTHING FOUL AND BLATANTLY RACIST.
I AM STILL MAD ABOUT THAT NY POST CARTOON. DISNEY DOES NOT WANT IT WITH ME.
daisy dooks
i have a TREMENDOUS amount of respect for you. i have no issue at all admitting you are 10 times smarter than i. with that, i humbly will agree to disagree with you.
i'm not gonna blame the white man for what's happening in our community today. i'm not gonna do it. i have to deal with realities, and the reality of the situation is there have been PLENTY of white people who have helped me along the way. that is the reality. the question becomes do white men help black females in an effort to demise the black man as we see being decried by black males all to often? I SAY UNTO YOU NO, IN FACT HELL NO. i will not be belittled in that manner. in fact, i've seen more black men added by white men vs. black women and anyone who doubts that can check the labor department statistics. more than anything it has to do with positioning. i did not choose to sell drugs, i did not choose to implant babies in as many females as possible without taking responsibility, i did not choose to go our and front with cars i couldn't afford. instead i chose to grind...still in the grind.
so NO...HELL NO. the buck stops here for me. i'm getting off this train. no longer with the black man use me as a tool to enable them to continue in this manner
NOT ALL BLACK MALES. MANY ARE DOING THE DANG GONE THANG, FAR TOO MANY AREN'T
****CORRECTION**** @Girlsluvgems
I AGREE WITH YOU, I LOVED THE LION KING. IT WAS BEAUTIFULLY PUT TOGETHER. I WAS KIND OF DISAPPOINTED THAT WE HAD TO BE DEPICTED BY ANIMALS. SUCH A TALE COULD HAVE BEEN THE STORY OF A YOUNG AFRICAN PRINCE (HUMAN FORM). BUT, I LIKED IT THOUGH.
I HOPE THEY PUT TOGETHER A EXCELLENT TEAM OF ARTISTS AND WRITERS AS WELL AS PUT TOGETHER A NICE CAST TO DO THE VOICES.
I HOPE FOR THEIR SAKE THAT THEY DON'T COME WITH ANYTHING FOUL AND BLATANTLY RACIST.
I AM STILL MAD ABOUT THAT NY POST CARTOON. DISNEY DOES NOT WANT IT WITH ME.
awake
LOL I know Disney dont! lol
But I doubt if they will tread on disrespectful especially in this day and age BUT we have to ask ourselves truthfully
When does depicting a culture's attitudes and mannerisms turn into racism?
If she has a "sassy" sister or friend, will that friend be labeled "ghetto"?
Most Princesses are dirt poor until they meet RICH Prince Charming. Are we going to judge that by saying this looks like another gold digger looking for a lucky break?
I think if anybody goes into this movie with the intentions of "finding stereotypical stuff" then they probably WILL find it. lol
@Girlsluvgems
I AGREE, THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE TO BE EXTREMELY SENSITIVE. THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE SOME BLACK PEOPLE ON THE TEAM THAT KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING AND CAN ANTICIPATE EVERY FLAW THAT WILL SET THE BLACK COMMUNITY OFF. HAVING A STAR STUDDED TEAM OF CELEBRITIES TO ENDORSE IT AND DO VOICE OVERS MIGHT HELP. I CAN JUST SEE EVERYBODY UP IN ARMS BECAUSE BEYONCE IS DOING THE VOICE OF THE PRINCESS. LMAO
I AM GETTING OFF THIS COMPUTER NOW, HAVE A GOOD ONE.
aWaKe
Beyonce...please no LMAO!!
Im sure the cast will be empeccable AND I am also sure they are going to have some GREAT music/soundtrack like they always do...
Off topic: It was DreamWorks that made "The Prince of Egypt" but that song "When you believe" performed by Whitney and Mariah gets to me everytime I hear it!
BUT Disney knows we are watching them closely and not to come out of pocket!!
First off, I'm glad that people on here are recognizing that complexes actually DO still exist all over the place. But I find it really funny that this topic is essentially about IR relationships when it boils down to it (A black doll meant to be purchsed with a white<?> parter).
People can argue that it's all about "brainwashing the youth" which I'm not AT ALL denying as a likely possibility, but how is this "brainwashing" or "complex" ANY different than black youth CONSTANLY seeing, (from our OWN people) the majority of successful black males on TV, etc. (along with a lot of everyday BM) pretty much reaching to date, marry, etc. anything that's outside of their own race? Are people lacking that much in the self-awareness dept., coincidentally, right up until something leaves a bad taste in their mouth?
Now, I'm not downplaying the significance of the above "Black Disney doll" issue but, basically, in the end, it seems to all boil down to a black female living "happily ever after" with a (possibly) non-black male, which is what A LOT of ppl (esp. BM) claim that that's all IR relationships is about for them. Which, if that's true, then why not just take the doll and her parter as a reflection of real life?
I don't quite get it. What, after the age a kid stops playing with dolls and watching Disney movies, they're no longer influenced or impacted by what they see others do and their patterns??? Do you honestly believe that constant REAL LIFE examples of favoritism/complexes don't effect kids just as much, if not more than a DISNEY DOLL???
I guess what I'm trying to say is that probably some of the same people who complain (and if this is not you, then I'm not reffering to you) about BW just solely being "jealous", "bitter", "insecure", "haters", etc. when it comes to IR relationships with BM and WW (or non-BW) can SURE AS SH!T turn on the light bulb and conciousness when something rubs them the wrong way...when these comments are basically the EXACT same opinions and feelings that others (mainly BW) have been expressing on countless instances in a lot of IR dating threads etc., which is: "It's sending the message that you're not good enough and not wanted" And please correct me if I'm wrong about that being the general issue with this story's subject.
Kinda makes it look like people get it (duh), yet don't wanna admit to it at certain times because then, obviously, IR relationship "discussions" wouldn't be quite as amusing for them. JMHO.
Why is she called the "frog princess"? Does she kiss the frog and it turns into that prince in green? Anyway, the subliminal message here is something else. If Disney really want young black girls to believe in themselves, they will have a black princess and a black prince. I understand the revenue will not generate if they paired a black prince with a black princess on the big screen though. I'm sure they are all about the revenue.
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I have to disageee. White people are STILL very much intriged by our culture, skin tones and mannerisms so I don't think revenues would suffer if it was a Black Prince. There has to be a thought process behind the story line that ties these two together. I might be a Pocahontas (West Side Story/Romeo & Juliet) type theme where two people that *** be together fought cultural adversites and lived happy ever after who knows...
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AND ANYONE GOT SOMEONE TO SAY ABOUT SHOULD HAVE THE SAME PROBLEM WITH THE CUBA GOODINGS, KOBE'S, REGGIE BUSHES, WESLEY SNIPES, WANYE BRADYS, DENNIS RODMANS.... HOLD UP- NO BLACK WOMAN MAD AT THE DENNIS RODMAN ***, THAT NICCA FULY AS A ***
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precisely! look at these nba players, either they stringing around a light chick with a blonde weave (think beyonce) or they with a non-black women. yet we never hear them say a peep about that. all of a sudden it's a problem now when we consider the same thing...
thank God for michelle obama *smh*. president obama always looks like he's proud to have her at his side...highly doubt he goes around calling her *** and hoes
MILATANT1 Flag post *** WHERE ALL THE BLACK WOMEN PRSING WHITE MEN? THEY SOHOULD BE GLAD THAT DISNEY IS PAIRING A BLACK PRINCESS WITH A WHITE PRINCE! WHY? ( BECAUSE IT PROVES THAT THE WHITE MAN IS GOD TO THE BLACKWOMEN AND HE ALWAYS HAS BEEN WELL SINCE SLAVERY) BUT GUESS WHAT THAT BLACK MAN DOESNT YOU NEED US! YOU AND YOUR WHITE MAN CAN HAVE EACH OTHER THE BLACK MAN IS BETTER THE WHITE MAN THATS WHY THEY OPPRESS THE BLACK MAN THEY WANNA BE US DEEP DOWN INSIDE AND THE BLACK WOMEN IS NOTHING AND WILL NEVER BEING ANYTHING WITHOUT A BLACK MAN BLACK MAN CREATED SO MANY THINGS ON THIS PLANET WHAT DID BLACK WOMEN DO? NOT A *** THING SO AS FAR AS IM CONCERNED IF ANY OF YOU BLACK WOMEN WHAT A WHITE MAN GO FOR IT BESIDES THE BLACK MAN IS ABOUT TO [EXPLETIVE] OVER MOST YOU UNGRATEFUL BEOUCHES ANYWAY
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see this right here...some of us will blame the white man if it's raining...this guy is a clear example of what i was referring to, a black male with no respect for black women
ThisPicProvesImBlack
Don't give me any breaks. A *** like me don't deserve breaks....
What cracks me up is that you really think I am bothered by you. I am not in the least...
I have CAPTURED the majority of your time for months...not the other way around...
I have continued to carry on lengthy conversations with laughter and glee BUT you HAVE NOT! You haven't been able to focus on NO ONE BUT ME.
You ever heard the saying "To keep a person down, you have to stay down with them." I am holding you back from living your life but you somehow think it's the other way around....
how silly you are...
Roasting someone is NOT getting the best of them. The fact that I'm here with a smile will point the defeated (and wasted energy) finger at you EVERYTIME...
I MAY TYPE IN ALLLLLLL CAPS BUT KNOW I AM STILL HAVING FUN WITH YOU. Fighting with you relieves stress sometimes as we all do on here... It's a part of life so get used to it...lol
We can do this EVERYDAY if you like. Day after Day, Month after Month, Year after Year...
You just have to assess how much time of YOUR life that you are willing to devote to me because I don't mind you AT ALL....
I will continue to do so if you want to come along for the ride...then come on...
You don't get my point now because of stubborness and pride but years to come, you are going to wish you had focued more on yourself...trust me....
*** Disney. We need our own Disney to create our own characters. Walt Disney was a known racist, why do you expect him or his company to do blacks any justice? Some of you expect too much from whites!
This divide and conquer via integration is really working on some of you! The media has dogged black women for years, now we are finally getting some shine but all attention ain't good attention. Remember this is the same country who was doing syphilis testing on black men as early as last century, do you really trust that they wont try to brainwash your children? Drink some Folgers and wake the *** up. I stopped *** wit Disney a long time ago
If black women want to date outside their race or more specific (white men) let them. Any female that’s willing to *** down a race or portions of that race because of their poor choices is a POOR CHOICE FOR YOU
We have sisters that want to have a meeting of the minds and build strong relationships. We need a catalyst and this movement by some black women is it. Our relations are diluted by these women and other outside forces and we need to cut them all out…so let them go.
STAYPOPPIN01 Flag post 3AM
I agre neither *** hould abuse the other one. Do you agree with that?
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yes, i agree...fair is fair and just for the record i wasn't referring to good dudes like you. i know you didn't accuse me of that but i would just like to get that out there on the table. it's not right to mentally abuse men either
InfoWars Flag post If black women want to date outside their race or more specific (white men) let them. Any female that’s willing to *** down a race or portions of that race because of their poor choices is a POOR CHOICE FOR YOU
We have sisters that want to have a meeting of the minds and build strong relationships. We need a catalyst and this movement by some black women is it. Our relations are diluted by these women and other outside forces and we need to cut them all out…so let them go.
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thank you for accepting the inevitable. kudos to you!
A person is only as good as his/her actions. Your actions show me that you are lonely and hurting inside AND somehow bringing my demise will uplift you to another level of self worth.
You do not bother me in the least... but I am STEALING from you. I have STOLE whatever time you would for have for blogging, posting, commenting, responding etc.. even time away from other activities outside of MTO.
Instead you sit and wait for MY post, comments and responses...and that pretty much sums up the MAJORITY of your day...
...so who's really in control???
STAYPOPPIN01 Flag post 3AM
You never answered my question.
Do you actually believe white men don't the same thing as far as calling women out of their names?
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i'm calling foul on the play *throws flag on the field* you somehow managed to get my guard down before backing me up against the wall with a trick question...i have to think...give me a second
Virtual feelings mean NOTHING to me AND *** be such a big deal in your life either.
HATE...LOVE...who would form an emotion like that for someone they have never met. People may have differing opinions but to LOVE or HATE a person on the internet is beyond my scope of reasonable thinking...
Maybe you need to talk to a Preacher, counselor, family member or friend and tell them about your unhealthy obsession with me. REAL people in your life is what makes you who you are....not virtual ones. I wouldn't trust ANYTHING on the internet enough to give it such a POWERFUL emotion...you might get to a point where you can't tell virtuality from Reality....and that would be a true shame....
3am_girl Flag post STAYPOPPIN01 Flag post 3AM
You never answered my question.
Do you actually believe white men don't the same thing as far as calling women out of their names?
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i have an answer for you. yes, i'm sure there are times when white men call white women out of their names as well. the difference here being they don't commercialize degrading their women. i don't see them on white web sites nationalistically calling white females out of their names as if it's the latest trend. i don't see them using it as propaganda in the way we see it in rap videos. i don't see them impregnating any and everything that has a vagina but not sticking around to raise their child. as someone mentioned above over 70 percent of black households are missing the father. would you agree?
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I wouldn’t say that I accept it but I understand it. Some don’t respect history….I Do. I KNOW life is a cycle and with that said white men and other nationalities had their share of black women often through rape but hey they did what they were told to do. Today I see the off springs are just simply following tradition minus the “physical” raping.
3AM
Nope. I don't agree at all. White men started the porn industry long before rap music was born. When men are away from women, (AND I"VE LIVED WITH WHITE GUYS IN MY YOUTH) They called their women every name in the book.
White women are more free than black women when it comes to their sexuality, which means at the end of every *** party we threw they went from one white female "friend" to the next.
Heck yeah you have large numbers of white fatherless kids, are you kidding?
STAYPOPPIN01 Flag post 3AM
Nope. I don't agree at all. White men started the porn industry long before rap music was born. When men are away from women, (AND I"VE LIVED WITH WHITE GUYS IN MY YOUTH) They called their women every name in the book.
White women are more free than black women when it comes to their sexuality, which means at the end of every *** party we threw they went from one white female "friend" to the next.
Heck yeah you have large numbers of white fatherless kids, are you kidding? ---------------
you set me up for a trap *keeping my eye on you for now on*
Staypoppin said:
"White women are more free than black women when it comes to their sexuality, which means at the end of every *** party we threw they went from one white female "friend" to the next."
Now, if you're not guilty of this, then don't take this as being targeted toward you, but I've noticed that a lot of black men refer to non-black women as being "free", "fun" or "curious" etc. when ot comes to them being promiscuous, yet when a black female does it, she's considered "nasty" and a "ho", etc. Why are non-blacks considered more "fun-loving" when it comes to being sexually open and easy, but when BW do it, a lot of BM tend to refer to it as being just plain "ho-ish" and "nasty" and at best (sadly) "freaky"?
Another one is Latina's having the same stereo-type of being loud and demanding, but they're just "feisty" where as a black woman's supposed attitude is just...off-putting "attitude"?
When BM have this double-standared, isn't that a complex?
It's always adults who perpetuate this kinda stuff not the children. I neva see kids being offended by what color dolls are. Howeva I understand where minorities are coming from as well. If we're going to create dolls in the image of humans, we should represent all races of people. Truth is, the bigotry of white men then is responsible for the physiologic damage placed on society.
Flag post I wonder how did women come to the conclusion that dating a white male is the solution to there problems? Is there a logical explanation?
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Good Question! But the answer is simple...Power! When you have power, you can control people. Any race or person who has power, people are going to praise them.
