: MediaTakeOut.com got it’s hands on the list of 2009’s most deadly cities – courtesy of the new book - City Crime Rankings 2008-2009 by Kathleen O'Leary Morgan, Scott Morgan, and Dr. Rachel Boba.
Without futher ado …
1 New Orleans, LA 2 Camden, NJ 3 Detroit, MI 4 St. Louis, MO 5 Oakland, CA 6 Flint, MI 7 Gary, IN 8 Birmingham, AL 9 Richmond, CA 10 North Charleston, SC 11 Cleveland, OH 12 Baltimore, MD 13 Miami Gardens, FL 14 Memphis, TN 15 Youngstown, OH 16 Atlanta, GA 17 Compton, CA 18 Orlando, FL 19 Little Rock, AR 20 Minneapolis, MN 21 Washington, DC 22 Philadelphia, PA 23 Jackson, MS 24 Newark, NJ 25 Milwaukee, WI
This article is flawed, where are the sources and is this based on? Homicides? Murders? Theft? Violence? There are no citation sources whatsoever.
What if one city has a higher murder rate than the other but another one has a higher violence rate? Why does your headline say most dangerous city but the book is called "deadliest"? Once again, more flawed journalism from MTO.
Bmore....we gots ta do better!!! "BmoreBelieves," remember that?
But how is it that Chi-town aint on the list? And why is DC and Philly so low on the list? Bmore beats Compton??? Stop it!!
However, I am proud that Bmore has slipped to #12, we were holding steady in the top 5 for a minute, so there is a MINOR improvement, but improvement nonetheless...
I cannot believe that Chicago is not on that list. Do you know how many kids are being killed on a daily.. For a city that still *** hard, its makes me wonder. Are the killings here being over looked?.. That is scary. What does our city have to do to get attention about these dangerous South,West,East,and Northside streets?
SMH, this topic is evident of black people's mentality today. Whether it's a joke or not.
It's better to be proud of the negative traits in your city. "Hey, my city is up there" or "why isn't my city up there."
Whether you're being sarcastic or not, it's a sad reflection on our community today. Not all black people, but many.
Fu cking idiots.
This list should have CHICAGO somewhere in the top five according to the media I'm sure that it has been reported in "WORLD NEWS" that we have an unusually high number of murdered BLACK TEENAGE CHICAGO PUBLIC SCHOOL CHILDREN AND YOUNG ADULT BLACK MEN HAPPENING ON CHICAGO'S SOUTH SIDE AND OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY THAT ARE PREDOMINANTLY BLACK AND HISPANIC. People are unemployed and unable to provide for their basic needs,BUT ALL MAYOR DALEY CARES ABOUT IS BEAUTIFYING CERTAIN PARTS OF THE CITY FOR TOURISTS AND LANDING THE BID FOR THE 2016 OLYMPICS. MEANWHILE YOUNG BLACKS CONTINUE TO DIE AT ALARMING RATES!!!! SO UNFORTUNATELY CHICAGO ILLINOIS SHOULD BE ON THAT LIST TO....... PLEASE INCREASE THE PEACE 4U2.COM
I use to live in Atlanta, that ish felt dangerous. Every time I turned the news on they had some depressing stories, if you wasn't from their it made you nervous to go outside sometimes. MIA been their so many times and yes it's dangerous almost like a third world country LOL just kidding (no I'm serious)! Orlando like 45mins away from me I don't think it's dangerous!
rjp57 Flag post @ Tika you gotta be proud of where you come from whether it’s positive or not. ------------------------------------------ Why do we have to be proud of where we come from if it doesn't benefit us as in a good way???? What's the purpose.....? That's a really silly way of thinking.....Should our ancestors be proud of "masters" neighborhood, because that's where they were residing at the time???
I'm from Chicago but I currently live in Milwaukee and I know *** well that Chicago is 10 times worse than Milwaukee but Milwaukee is definitely getting out of control without a doubt. I hate these dumb *** lists anyway we need not have these cities out of control like this because the reason these lists even exists is because of the problems in the black community. Sh*t doesn't have to be this way but this is the way they want it.
***Only the DUMB N*GGAS will use this SAD statistic as a "validation" of "how real their life is". . .name another race of people that brag of how awful their surroundings are?
I'm not using "n*ggas" as a term for ALL black people, but we know who they are. . .
Obama won't mail a book to your house to show you how to improve your mentality, it's take a BLESSED child that breaks the cycle, unfortunatly, MANY are not, therefore the N*GGA GENERATION will continue.
Good, decent, respectful BLACK PEOPLE are tired of you.
No one should be fckin " REPRESENTIN" their dangerous city. That is NOTHING to be PROUD OF. Thanks to you degenerates, kids can't even play outside anymore. You have slave mentality. Obviously, you want Black people to continue to die.
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Well said. This is sadly what our culture have reduced many kids in our race to. To be proud of the fact their city has a higher murder/crime rate. Meaning that their city must be 'tougher' or 'grimier' than the next "***!ggas". SMH
It truly is disgusting and the post in this thread personifies that exact ignorance. However, as I said in a prior post, I'm still wary as to how these statistics were complied together to produce this list. I'm sure there are alot of murders/thefts/type activity that is rampant in other cities that never gets reported. MTO say dangerous in the title and then 'deadliest' in the topic. Which one is it?
WHY ARE BLACK PEOPLE SO VIOLENT? Thanks to the absent FATHERS and the SKANKY mothers, this trend will continue to happen. MTO posts articles every now and then to depict a mother "teaching" their kids how to dance like the skanky girls in rap videos. Wow, that is a good parent!! Now, there are people who AREN'T even RESPONSIBLE over these children who are trying to help THEIR wellbeings. It's sad. Black people, EXCLUDING the ones who actual respect themselves and the people around them, are embarrassing sometimes. This is not a good look.
@HandsomeStallion,
I think I've verbally attack your *** in the past but I have to agree with you 100% on that sh*t. There ain't sh*t funny, cute, or anything about representing the violence in a city, that sh*t absolutely fuggin insane and ***. Any n*gga who takes pride because their city is dangerous should be a vicim of the danger that they represent and let's see how their *** represents that bullsh*t once it happens to them.
***LOOK AT THESE DUMB N*GGA COMMENTS, THESE ARE DEAD PEOPLE IDIOTS! NOT SCHOLARSHIPS!
"Once again, we are #1
*** out to the realest city in the world (NEW ORLEANS)"
"Come on Baltimore let's get lower than #12!"
"No. 14
I'M FROM MEMPHIS ***!"
"minneapolis yay yay"
"17 all day baby! lol"
"Hell nawl, Chicago, IL isn't on there. They must have forgotten the Hudson murder, and all those other crimes.....I guess I should be proud of my city since it's not on the list... Let me stop hatin....Yea right"
"20 Minneapolis, MN
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Over DC???
Really???
I don't know about all that!!!"
----CR@CKERS MAKE THSES LIST, AND DUMB N*GGAS TREAT THEM LIKE COLLEGE TOP 25 POLLS! FOOLS!
So, Black People. How are we going to improve these statistics? How are we going to improve the Black community. I feel bad for Black children. They will NEVER live a decent childhood. Instead of play hopscotch, they have to worry about dodging ***. Wow, what great childhood memories! For family reunions, they might as well go to jail! That is where half their family is! Wow, children have such great people to look up to. I'm tired of having people be proud of these statistics when they AREN'T THINKING ABOUT THE PEOPLE IT'S TRULY AFFECTING THE MOST. So..
It makes me sick to my stomach,to always see my city at #1, for issues such as this. Yes, my city does have it's issues, but, the media helps to bolster these issues as well. A lot of these young people who commit these crimes enjoy ther "15 mins of fame". Grant it, a lot of it is retaliation, or lack of respect for themselves, their community and most importantly, it's the way they were brought up in their home. Yet instead, if the media keeps bringing attention to these issues, then of course all these cities that are on this list (and probably on another list out there), will always be. MTO please don't help to be a part of the problem, but, please help to be a part of the soulution. We needed help for Katrina,and every city in the United States, (even the ones on this list)gave us a helping hand and showed us love. Now at this time, it's not funds that we need, but a solution to end the violence here.
MsUndeniable..
Then you need to gather a group of people and start marching. I see Al *** and Jesse Jackson marching when they hear someone say the "***" word, yet they can't seem to march when BLACK PEOPLE ARE HURTING OTHER BLACK PEOPLE. I don't live in a dangerous city, THANK GOSH, but many people do. You brilliant, talented and intelligent ones need to take part to help decline this violence. I don't think any innocent person needs to live in an environment where they feel like they are going to get harmed wherever they go.
the reason you don't see any Texas cities on this list is because law enforcement make their presence felt...that sign you see when you come into Texas is literal...DON'T MESS WITH TEXAS! People from ***.O. that came to Houston had to find this out the hard way. ---------------
Its just that John Q Law has you Texans trained. You all don't move unless they say so. Yall are still shell-shocked from slavery and still afraid of master, considering yall were the last to find out(6years later) that slavery was over.
NO didnt find out the hard way, TEXAS did!
Almost five years later and yall still blaming NO
SMH
I don't get why there is still so much violence in areas where there is a higher concentration of Black people. I think it is mostly parenting. It just has to be. I've seen other minorities who experience the same hardships as some Black people do and the other minorities never have their areas turn out as chaotic as the areas containing Black people. I don't get it. I just don't get it. It just doesn't seem right. No wonder everyone is scared of Black people.
@MSUNDENIABLE
There ain't no help for yo *** city (New Orleans). Houston opened up our homes and hearts to help the evacuees and in return we got screwed. I even got robbed by one of these low life *** from the ***.O. Even with half the population in ***.O. and they still are no. 1! That says something about the people in the city as well as a corrupt law enforcement agency.
~MTO didnt tell us how they determined what makes a city the most dangerous. I live in Milwaukee and like last year we had the same crime rate as Philadephia which is almost three times bigger. Milwaukee is small as hell and with Racine, they both like Chicago's backyard. Plenty people who live here from Chicago or from down south. Milwaukee is random as hell and people do get killed alot for it to be a small random city in Wisconsin. But the crime rate has gone down alot within the last year tho~
And until the recent event that happened with OPD our crime rate was down 50%. And after this incident it's been pretty quiet around here. So glad about that...regardless of what people think about Oakland...there's a lot of decent people who work hard and love life. Sad that we have this stigma on our city.
@ClassyButterfly- Co-sign sister. I don't get it either. But it is as it is possibly for a number of factors i.e. bad parenting, single parenting, lack of father figure, rampart drugs use/recreational abuse, a HEAVY concentration of liquor stores in majorly populated black areas, institutionalized racism, maginalized society, ignorance, etc, etc....... Girl we are a hot mess.
There ain't no help for yo *** city (New Orleans). Houston opened up our homes and hearts to help the evacuees and in return we got screwed. I even got robbed by one of these low life *** from the ***.O. Even with half the population in ***.O. and they still are no. 1! That says something about the people in the city as well as a corrupt law enforcement agency. ---------------
Low life ***? I was robbed during Superbowl in Houston(PRE-KATRINA)
There are unsavory characters EVERYWHERE
and btw, MOTHERF*CK you and the rest of the mofos that "opened their hearts and homes" and keeps telling anyone who will listen.. THATS NOT CHARITY IF YOU HAVE TO GLOAT ABOUT IT
Why the f*ck does HOUSTON think they were the only city that was hospitable during the storm?
GTFOH!!!!!
What you mofos DON'T mention is all the "gubbament" money that the state received as a result and the money people received for taking people in...Charity? My ***!!
And stop acting like raggedy asss HOUSTON is so sanctified, do you watch the news?
So many *** children are molested or abducted in HOUSTON, a bunch of *** PERVS!! I just read about two young HOUSTON guys found dead in a trunk(drug related), guess the NO people did that too...
GTFOH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Crime is EVERYWHERE, people are broke in this recession and a mofo will bust heads if they got to eat, I dont give an eff WHICH city they are in...
grownnsexybruh Flag post @MSUNDENIABLE
There ain't no help for yo *** city (New Orleans). Houston opened up our homes and hearts to help the evacuees and in return we got screwed. I even got robbed by one of these low life *** from the ***.O. Even with half the population in ***.O. and they still are no. 1! That says something about the people in the city as well as a corrupt law enforcement agency. --------------- yo attitude is what describes you
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- WOW!!!!! That's horrible....Dont stay mad though, that could have happened to you by anyone, they just happened to be from ***.Orleans... If they were from New York still could have happened, hell, depending on the type of family you have too!!!! lol Desperate is desperate.
Imma a Youngstown boi.. We had down year in crime which was great. So im kinda surprise we're still in the top 15. Robberies have gone up and theres a handful of ruthless dudes in the YO.. Stay away from the drug game or doin dirt.Then you dont have to worry bout retaliation or some n***a runnin up in ya crib, wantin some of your supply. Stay in your lane.. Do you.. you straight.
PEOPLE SO STUPID BIGGIN UP THEIR CITY FOR THE MURDER RATE LIKE THAT *** IS COOL IT HAS TO BE PEOPLE WITH NO KIDS...AND IF YOU HAVE KIDS AND REPPIN THAT *** YOUR EVEN DUMBER..YALL AINT KILLIN NO ONE BUT YOURSELVES JACKASSES AND EVERY ONE PROUD OF THAT *** NEEDS TO INFORM THEIR LOCAL HOOD THAT IT NEEDS TO STOP..YALL AINT GANGSTA *** AT INNOCENT PEOPLE...IF SOMEONE LIVES IN YOUR HOOD TRUST ME HE IS JUST AS BROKE AS YOU
IM FROM DETROIT ALL DAY WEST SIDE BABY!!! SERIOUSLY THOUGH, IT REALLY DOESNT MATTER WHAT CITY IS OR IS NOT ON THE LIST. AS LONG AS WE WAKE UP, WE ARE SECONDS AWAY FROM CRIME VIOLENCE OR ANY OTHER MISHAP THAT CAN HAPPEN. THE WORLD IS NOT SAFE SO ANYONE THINKING OTHERWISE REALLY SHOULD WAKE UP AND BRACE YOURSELF FOR A RUDE AWAKENING.
@CLassyButterfly- I think eliminating the number of Liquor stores is a HUGE one as well. This will be difficult considering most of these stores are operated by non-black people (Arabs, somalis, koreans, Chinese), who aren't about to *** their businesses for the BENEFIT of BLACK FOLKS (even though they have no qualms with taking our MOney lol).
I think the more affluent black folks aren't doing their part. Some of them could easily buy out some liquor stores and replace them with dollar stores or local 711's. It's sad but thats the reality of our situation.
@The_Truth
If you were SMART you would know that my comment was simply stating that Baltimore must do better! Bad or good I still love my City, maybe you don't love your city enough to represent it, but I do represent mine. I was born and raised here and no I don't like the fact that Baltimore is ALWAYS on theses list, but it ALWAYS is. Baltimore has dropped from the top 5 to #12, that's a cause for small celebration in my book!
Over DC???
Really???
I don't know about all that!!!"
----CR@CKERS MAKE THSES LIST, AND DUMB N*GGAS TREAT THEM LIKE COLLEGE TOP 25 POLLS! FOOLS! *****************************************
LOOK YOU *** I WAS SAYING HOW IN THE HELL IN MINNEAPOLIS MORE VIOLENT THAN DC (CONSIDERING DC IS *** UP PLACE) BECAUSE I USED TO LIVE IN MINNEAPOLIS. FROM MY EXPERIENCE MINNEAPOLIS WASN'T VIOLENT AT ALL AND I DIDN'T THINK IT BELONGED ON THIS LIST PERIOD. I MOVED FROM CHICAGO TO MINNEAPOLIS WHEN I WAS YOUNGER BECAUSE OF THE VIOLENCE SO *** *** UP AND KEEP CUTTING AND PASTING YOU LAME, NO READING ***!!!
FUNNY HOW PPL KEEP SAYIN GLAD MY CITY OR STATE AINT ON THAT LIST. SHOULD THAT MAKE YOU FEEL ANY MORE SAFE WHEN YOU KNOW HOW YOUR CITY REALLY IS. ITS VIOLENCE EVERYWHERE HAPPENING EVERY SECOND. YEAH IT MAY BE WORSE IN OTHER AREAS MORE THAN OTHERS, BUT AS A FAMOUS SONG ONCW SAID, THE WHOLE WORLD IS A GHETTO. AS LONG AS THE ALMIGHTY DOLLAR IS A ROOT TO ALL SORTS OF INJURIOUS THINGS, GREED, SELFISHNESS AND WHATEVER OTHER EVIL THAT COMES ABOUT FROM IT WILL PREVAIL, NOT TO MENTION WE LYING IN THE POWER OF THE WICKED ONE.
@TJTRAE1 Come on baby it's me and you "REAL TALK" you live on the WESTSIDE I'm chillin on the SOTHSIDE you know we got some issues going on in the streets. And this summer unfortunately it's gonna be more of the same, but I'm just gonna do like I always do and have some fun and try to avoid ***.I.G.G.A.S whenever possible and you be sure to do the same....... 4u2.com
FROM ANOTHER PERSPECTIVE, YEAH IT IS NOT SURPRISING THAT WHOS WHO ON THE LIST. ALL OF THESE ARE MAJOR CITIES WHERE IT IS PREDOMINANTLY BLACK. AND IT IT IS NO SECRET THAT BLACK PPL CAN BE F8CKED UP TOWARDE ONE ANOTHER. BUT ALL THE BLAME IS NOT ON THE RESIDENTS, BECAUSE NOT EVERYBODY IN THOSE CITIES IS ABOUT ALL THAT FOOLISHNESS. CONSIDER THE LEADERS OR GOVERNMENT OOFICIALS OF THOSE CITIES AND STATES. IS IT ANY COINCIDENCE THAT THESE MAJOR MINORITY CITIES ARE SO JACKED UP, COME ON NOW. IM NOT A CONSPIRACY THEORIST BUT IF A ANIMAL WALK LIKE A DUCK AND QUACK LIKE A DUCK, GUESS WHAT? YEAH ITS A DUCK.
I am confused about why ya'll so angry about this. I live in DC and I am not shocked or appalled! It has gotten better, but wit the economy and folks not hiring it's going to get worst all over the country. An with the Mexican's not letting us get drugs crack heads bout to be going crazy too!!! I am scared for my Daughter and am looking to move ASAP, if you want to be gutter all your life then fine. Do u but MTO list the safest cities so I can move to one of them to raise my little one! Bmore, I am real proud ya'll falling down the list some, cuz ya'll off da hook up there! Whatever NY is doing they need to spread the news to the other police cuz they should have been on there somewehere too!
***! I think they put NOLA on the top of the list just because! I was born and raised there, and can walk the city at ***, in ANY ward, with no problems! People just don't know how to act when they get "in a situation" (ie: witnessing someone selling drugs, a murder, etc.) JUST MIND YOUR OWN *** BUSINESS! And that's one less murder, ya heard?
*** out to the 7th Ward/Downtown: Black folks that know how to act (sometimes)
I was born and raised in a small town 45 min. away from New Orleans, I used to love to visit ***.O. growing up. It doesn't surprise me to see ***.O. at the top of the list because 1 or more murders happens in that city everyday. I have been living in ATL since 1993 and yes it has it's share of crimes. For the person or person's that keep bringing up the crime stats in Houston after Katrina you'll need to get your facts straight. I'm in noway defending these thugs who did go to Houston and commit crimes but Houston had it's share of crime way before Katrina. My friends brother went to Houston to attend a friends wedding,turned up missing and was found dead in his car weeks later.And this by the way happened way before Katrina. All states have crime.
I'm a native St. Louisan (I grew up on the predominantly African-American North Side), and while I'm disappointed that we ended up at #4, I wasn't exactly surprised. Property crimes (burglaries, smash-and-grab car robberies, etc.) are a particular nuisance these days.
However, I'm an optimistic guy, and I try to find silver linings in clouds. And I see a lot of potential for our city, particularly in the downtown area.
Here in St. Louis, African-American entrepreneurs and brothers Mike and Steve Roberts are making their presence felt. Their company, The Roberts Companies, owns several radio and TV stations across the country, as well as a variety of residential properties in the U.S. and the Caribbean.
And by the end of this year, their 25-story Roberts Tower - the first new residential construction in downtown St. Louis in over 40 years - is on schedule to be completed by the end of 2009:
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The Roberts Brothers were VERY fortunate to get their financial ducks in a row before the economy went down the tubes. Several other downtown redevelopment projects - including another tower - are either on hold, or have been scrapped altogether.
Because of the Roberts' downtown presence (they have two loft developments, two hotels, and a theater), they managed to convince one of our major grocery chains, Schnucks, to return to downtown St. Louis.
And I believe that other retailers will soon follow. The number of people living in downtown St. Louis has actually increased to roughly 12,000. I see lots of folks walking their dogs, so it would stand to reason that a retailer like PetSmart would want to come to downtown St. Louis.
It's just a matter of time before things turn around. :)
@Hotbunny when you come to Chicago,Illinois you can find some good House CD's on the the street if you just ask around, there are always people hustling CD's that they make and put together themselves. I know a guy who puts together custom made CD's of your choice or will put together something he feels you will enjoy. Also there is a Club on the South side called the Family Den 8940 South,Stony Island. It's a nice club and they play great house music on certain *** and the DJ also puts together his own house music as well. When you come to Chicago if you want to just get in touch with me or ask me a question through M.T.O I will help you with information if I can. 4u2.com
The murder rate is usually determined by the number of murders per capita, thats why these lists aren't entirely accurate
If the city is smaller and has poverty issues, of course its going to seem like an exorbant amount of murders
Not to make light of the situations, all of these cties need serious community upheavals, but the method used is not a fair one
@MONEYHUNGRY
No *** yo city! Many people in Houston got killed and robbed after we reached out to yo *** city. How ungrateful can you biatches be??? If someone opened their homes and heart to me you best believe I will be grateful and repay them. All i heard from people from ***.O. while they were in houston were complaints and this not how we do it in the ***.O. Yall brought so much bloodshed with yall. But hey, karma is a *** because yo city is no. 1 in crime with half of the population. SO ONCE AGAIN, *** YO *** F U *** K I *** CITY!!!
CALL ME CRAZY but I am a Camdenite, born & raised. I've been considering movin to Baltimore, MD. Still, I don't think Camden should have been in the top 10. There are cities more dangerous that i would not dare go to...chicago, new orleans, compton, and more. AND ATL is nuthn @ b scard of unless your scard of ***'s.
To hotbunny:
I will concede that the condos at Roberts Tower won't be cheap (I think they'll start at $500,000). But once the tower is finished, those condos will sell like hotcakes.
What works to the Roberts Brothers' advantage is that they're capitalizing on a green building technology trend in this country. Roberts Tower will be the first green-certified tower in the Midwest. Environmentally-conscious home buyers will be drawn to it.
BTW, on a recent downtown loft tour, I saw a Roberts Tower display unit. Simply beautiful. :)
@SPICYLADY3
guess what lady, Houston ain't on the list and we have over 4 million people in the metro area, of course there is crime in Houston but the law enforcement here makes their presence felt unlike the corrupt police dept, in ***.O. Houston is tough on crime and inroads have been made to curb that crime by mayor Bill White.
@grownsexybruh
I should cut open my vein and bleed in a cup and give to you open-hearted, generous, self-less SAINTS that helped the poor, needy REFUGEES in their time of need
Peep this: I'm grateful to anyone that sincerely helps me(IN WHATEVER SITUATION) and someone that SINCERELY(being the operative word)helps someone, forgets that they did it...so it doesn't bear repeating(over and over and over again) OR reimbursement from the government
How do you explain the bloodshed in Houston before and after Katrina? I don't get it...
This whole "took in" thing bothers me. Last time I checked, I was free to relocate to anyone of the 50 states that I choose, with or without Bill White's approval
How ignorant to taunt me b/c NO is #1 Do you realize that NO is still in America? The country that you live in?
KARMA....you TOO, my friend will soon learn the definition of the word. Ike was a warning. Judging from your posts, you seem to need a cookie for helping "those poor downtrodden folks from NO that didn't have anything until they came to Houston and found a better life(GTFOH!)", ala Barbra Bush...But..wait for it...you never know when the next cyclone will come thru and you lose everything you own in the blink of an eye, like those same people and God knows who may have to take YOU in...thats Karma for your asss...
And the irony in you alluding to the notion that people from NO are ignorant and uncivilized while Houstonians are somehow "righteous". Read you post and read mines...Nuff said
@grownsexybruh
Didn't the Houston police dept recently *** a young black male that was the son of a baseball player b/c he was driving a nice car they assumed was stolen? He was also a pro baseball player and can never play again
Didn't they taser a Houston Texan on the freeway for nothing? I think he's suing...
Yep, they definitely make their presence felt
These statistics are grossly over exaggerated
Social researchers don't count every homicide that occurred in a given year that would take an inordinate amount of time and money to execute. Don't forget that many crimes go UNREPORTED or face backlog due to understaffed police departments. Thus an exact number of crimes that occurred cannot be determined very easily.
Basically, these researchers use statistical formulas, demographics, and probability to INFER and APPROXIMATE how much crime a given location will generate under certain socioeconomic conditions and demographics.
For example, statistics show that low income neighborhoods are more likely to generate more crime that higher income neighborhoods. Therefore, researchers select cities and locations with a large proportion of low income communities and APPROXIMATE that it is more PROBABLE for that city to experience more crime due to its demographical makeup.
Similarly, communities with a large proportion of minorities (African American, Hispanic, Asian) are more probable to generate crime.
Although many people will say that the facts don't lie but in reality that a multitude of variables that statisticians and researchers acknowledge and clearly are aware of. These variables can greatly influence the end data. However, in order to make the data presentable and understandable to the average American public, those who publish and present these reports ignore the confounding variables.
Basically, what the public is given is a watered down, layman's term and brief report stating that communities with predominantly African American or Hispanic populations are more likely to generate crime...
But you have to realize that what is presented to YOU is only a THIRD of the data actually uncovered by these research institutes.
Not all predominantly black or Hispanic communities mathematically more probable to generate crime. Many of these communities are quite stable and filled with working class, blue collar minorities. Take for example Portland Oregon, or Bakersfield California.
Moreover, you have to consider the economic trend of those regions. Michigan is facing tough economic times, therefore it is more likely to see crime occur in it's cities compared to someplace else like Virginia which is economically better off than Michigan because it is supplanted with a generous pool of government jobs and military installations and overall employment.
Say 10 years ago before GM and Ford where relatively stable, these communities were somewhat less likely to generate crime.
Sometimes you can't take everything at face value
@ Classybuttafly, Thanks for the positive message, I will inquire about that. This world needs more positive people like you.
@ myxy, Have you ever lived in Detroit or New Orleans? I have lived in New Orleans, practically my whole life, and I've turned out fine. I attended and graduated from exceptional schools here. Most of my family and friends as well. No matter what community, city, or state you raise your kids in, they are going to come in contact with a bad seed or a few bad seeds. That's one of the problems, cities, nor states should be raising our kids. We as parents need to raise our kids. This in no way,form or fashion, an attack on the way you raise your kids (if you have any), it's just speaking in general. I don't know anything about you, or your way of life. I just want you to know and understand that " Detroit and New Orleans are ghetto rats' nests". Let's go back into history, without Detroit, there would be no Motown, or If i'm not mistaken, General Motors( makers of several different vehicles, one we or more than one of our family members have purchased). New Orleans, a city best known for there food, jazz, and wonderful hearted people, Essence, Jazz Fest, Bayou Classic,etc. and I bet you rushed here to get to one of those functions or another. A rat I am not, and when I send my payment off to the mortgage company, I don't send it off for payment for a ghetto rats' nests, but for my beautiful brick home.
@moneyhungry
that was in the city of Bellaire, which is a city inside Houston. Ok yes, police depts have a few renegade cops, but you can't generalize them all in one category. I have encountered cops who are cool people. The problem is we think that the cops are the bad guys which is why the relationship is strained with the black community. I say come out of your comfort zone and have open dialogue with the police in your city and I bet you that you will see an improvement in crime. Yes the cops make their presence felt in Houston and I don't want it any other the way. Crime effects a city economically. If your city is ridden with crime then businesses will leave and then your city becomes a hellhole to live in. IF YOU FEEL THE COP IS THE BAD GUY THEN YOU AIN'T DOING RIGHT TO BEGIN WITH. I'm through with it...
Dumb ***.I.G.G.A.S. gotta destroy everything. I am not racist but there is a difference between a ***.i.g.g.a. and a black person. The ***.i.g.g.a. is the one who I have absolutely no respect for. They treat their kids like sh*t. I have seen those types of mothers who smoke weed and drink and still take care of their children under the influence and their kids see them do it every day. The same ***.i.g.g.a. "parent" is unmarried, waits for her welfare check, yells at the child like its an adult, brings a string of different dudes around her kids, of course drinks/smokes and will destroy something rather than try to build it up or make themselves better.
I live down south in NC and the neighborhood I bought my house is in a Historically black neighborhood that was going through "renovations." The cheap price is what attracted me not to mention the free money from the city to do restoration. Well, needless to say the sh*t got old. My block was fine but the areas around it and the foot traffic was horrible. I would see crackhead prostitutes and drunks walking down the street. One crackhead knocked at my door and tried to come in, I called the police on his azz, they were there literally a minute or two after I called 911 and then took his azz to jail. I forgot to mention all of the noise pollution with young black men dressed like clowns acting like fools driving their cars blasting some ignorant ghetto rap through the neighborhood. How can black people if you are so "proud" let your people degrade and sink themselves into the lowest depths of society and still allow them to infest and do their disgusting business in your neighborhoods?
YES!!! Thank god I don't live in any of thoses cities. WAIT WAIT... I Love NYC... I know the Bronx borough is not perfect and has it's kinks but come on... why isn't Brooklyn on there? Not for nothing, when i turn on the evening news, 6 or 7 out of the 10 reports that are mentioned happen in Brooklyn. Anywho, this comes to show that NYC is not a bad place to be in. All the other cities, *** damn ***!!!
Naah, they got this all messed up. Miami Gardens is not a dangerous place to live at all, its actually a bit on the upscale side of Miami. And so is Orlando, this list is so wrong. Orlando is where Disney World is, i use to live there with those clean paved streets and quiet boring neightborhoods. Now the real dangerous places are Overtown, the Poke *** Beans, Lil Haiti for sure, and they are deep in Miami. At least in Overtown and the Poke *** Beans you have to worry about getting *** while you standing outside your porch, but in lil haiti, you have to worry about getting ***, and bout someone putting vodoo on you. If you don't get *** or stabbed, for shur someone will try to do an expedition on yo but. I would rather know someone fight me like a man than go do some supernatural ish. So i would have to say lil haiti for sure.
that was in the city of Bellaire, which is a city inside Houston. Ok yes, police depts have a few renegade cops, but you can't generalize them all in one category. ********************************************** You're asking ME not to make a generalization? Refer back to all of your previous posts, where you said people from NO were low-life *** and such
That's a BROAD generalization if I've ever heard one
Now I'm DONE with it!
Enjoy the rest of your day!
Jacktown is not that bad to be on the list, I mean dont get me wrong we have our share of homicides and burglaries and stuff but we're not that bad.
At the guy that's talking smack about people from ***.O. he needs to grow the heck up and move on. People can say whatever they want to say about them but u can beileve they wont walk the streets of ***.O. saying that b.s. nor would he go up to the people from Katrina that were in Houston and say what he's saying right now.
My husband's from New Orleans (UPTOWN) so I really took offense to some of the things that he said. OMG!! Houston was bad before Katrina, as a mattter of fact I had family in Houston that moved back to the Sipp cause the violence was so bad there.
Violence happens in EVERY city in America, just some cities more often than others. People need to stop puttin these places down b/c the people that you're puttin down and calling hood and ghetto will end up hiring your broke *** 1 day. Not all ghetto people are criminals ya know.
Terrytown, LA (like 10 minutes outside of ***.O) Should be on this list though, they ratched as hell over there some dudes just killed a 23 month old baby and its sibling. Thats crazy.
And I'm not reppin' Oakland for it's crime rate....because yes it's not a good statistic but everytime you mention to an out-of-towner where you are from and I say "OAKLAND"...most folks cringe....I hate that *** for real. It's stupid because crime is everywhere you go..some cities may be higher than others but it's what you make it out to be. Glad my life is good and I'll will continue to make it better.
@ moneyhungry,
Go ahead, I'm Lol so hard right now! Obviously he feels to believe everyone, in New Orleans is worthless, and beneath him. Sounds like we need to call him massa, because he sounds a lot like the people back in the days of slavery. Well anyway, he's the one with the poor thinking process not us. Do you remember recently when Ike and Gustave hit, all though some people left from here, as soon as people in New Orleans heard that the storms where going towards Houston, Texas, we felt so bad, and a lot of people that stayed open there homes up to the people of Houston. How about how when the Mayor Ray Nagin asked for hotels to put the people of Houston up before allowing the people of New Orleans. How about New Orleanians going out there to help assist people in Houston rebuild. How quickly we forget. There was a storms years ago we assisted them as well. When grownsexybruh writes something just laugh it off. The best medicine is laughter.
@ Tygalily The truth hurts what movie did you steal that from because I'm sure you're not smart enough to think of that yourself. Anyways...
Yes worse things happen in other countries around the world but you would expect people to behave differently since here in America they have access to healthcare, education, transportation, clean water and food. But its not surprising that many black people still have slave mentalities. White people really have screwed up minorities.
And guess what the common denominator is with all of these cities? They're predominantly black or Hispanic. That speaks volumes!!!
These towns wouldn't want me as mayor. I'd have a tough police chief, get rid of corrupt cops and patrol, patrol, patrol. They would be scared to deal drugs in my town. Children could walk home from school with out the fear of being assaulted and I'd start a large volunteer force for the schools, bus stops, cross walks, you name it.
@grownsexybruh I LMAO at you cause you really are trying to sound hard, like 1 of those internet thugs. You told some of the New Orleanians how you felt about their *** huh?? And not 1 swung on your ***?? LOL. You would've had some hot lead for them huh??? That's a mighty VIOLENT statement coming from someone from Houston, I thought yall werent violent over there?? You just contridicted yourself on sooo many levels boo.
Its cool though, every1 is entitled to their own opinion but let me drop some knowledge on ya,.... everyone is NOT a product of their environment, some people actually rise up above where they're from and go on to make a difference in the world but they never forget where they come from.
Have a nice day sir and may God bless you.
@faseforeal1: No, you're missing the picture here. It shows the epidemic mind set of the criminal element in black/hispanic communities. This has nothing to do with racial degradation.
It also shows the subculture of many inner city people. You may be black, but where did you grow up, what kind of parents did you have and what are your values? It's profoundly sad if you ask me.
As a black person who didn't grow up around this type of criminal environment, it makes me wonder who are breeding these people to a life of crime? Poverty has nothing to do with it. Show me someone stealing food for their children and then I'll take another look at the poverty issue.
It also makes other ethnicities wonder why there's so much crime in black/Hispanic communities too. Why?
@grown sexybruh who said There ain't no help for yo *** city (New Orleans). Houston opened up our homes and hearts to help the evacuees and in return we got screwed. I even got robbed by one of these low life *** from the ***.O. Even with half the population in ***.O. and they still are no. 1! That says something about the people in the city as well as a corrupt law enforcement agency. ------------------------------------------------ your little subtitle says your attitude reflects you...and your attitude is the perfect example of your spirit and the spirits of "some" houstonians towards new orleanians. While "some" Houstonians did open their homes and hearts most did their best to make New Orleanians feel unwelcomed as if they were invading what you call "your" city when your too foolish to see THE MEXICANS OWN TEXAS!!!!! As someone WHO RESIDES IN HOUSTON we both know crime always has been and is still a problem in houston even after most residents of Louisiana have returned home. Texas is plaqued with gang violence,robbery,car break ins and theft, home invasion, drunk driving, and rape!! (trust me i know my car was broken into 3x!!!) Other cities had evacuees also!!!! ATLANTA, NEW YORK, FLORIDA just to name a few and the only city that has all theses complaints and caused all kinds of division with this Texas vs New Orleans *** IS TEXAS!!! You sound like a puppet to the red neck media of Texas! Don't MESS WITH TEXAS should be turned around to say TEXAS IS A MESS!!!! HATERED OF ANY KIND IS VILE ESPECIALLY WHEN ITS TOWARD YOUR OWN KIND!!!! p.s- to get respect you give it
@ grownnsexybruh,
How is it that your story changed so fast about the police. In your previous message to me you put the police down here in New Orleans. Have you met every police officer here. I don't recall meeting you. If so please make me remeber you. There's crooked police officers in every state just as well as New Orleans. I don't see you fussing about the people at fast food places that drop your food on the floor then prepare it for you, or even spit on it. Or what about the bagger at the check out stand that fills your shopping bag on purpose so it can bust when you or your eggs fall. how about the nurse who sticks you hard on purpose, when giving you a ***. In ***, there's bad peopleall over the world in every state and walk of life. Why add to the number, by being a negative person? Just like we found some good in Houston Texas, trust me there's good in the people in New Orleans and all these other states and cities located on this list. Versus people going against each other on this list, we all need to find away to better our cities and states and most of all ourselves. I know we can't change everyone, but, we can try and start with this website. I'll start hi, how are you doing? Good I'm from New Orleans, I love my city, it's a little cloudy out here, but it's still a beautiful day. I hope you have a wonderful day there in your city. and i hope that all is well.
@Dame_Kelz I know the Bronx borough is not perfect and has it's kinks but come on... why isn't Brooklyn on there? Not for nothing, when i turn on the evening news, 6 or 7 out of the 10 reports that are mentioned happen in Brooklyn.
Bytch u sound as if you are disappointed. I guess that makes NYC "soft" because they didn't make this atrocious list. Wanna be ghetto hoe. That's the worst kind: the wannabes. Real ppl from the hood do NOT like it one bit and while some allow the hood to swallow them whole some ppl keep their eyes on tha prize and get tha hell out. The exceptional one build businesses in that very same ghetto.
Hotbunny that was pretty funny...come on now...*** ain't flying every ***..LOL. It can happen anywhere.
Yes we gotz talent too but we also have good paying jobs and educated folks who work them, most of the suburbians come to Oakland and Frisco to work cause you can make a decent living out here.
Come on out here and let me know how many *** you've dodged.
@ Just_sum_blogger
I understand where grownsexybruh is coming from. It sucks when you get robbed. You work so hard for everything you have only to have some fool whose never worked a day in his life, has never had anything and probably will never have anything, someone who appreciates nothing because they've never had anything, take something that is yours. This lowlife just happened to be from NO. When the evacuees scattered they brought along their way of life which was hustle and steal which only added to crime mix of whatever city they were in. Oh and I'm tired of the lets feel sorry for the Hurricane victims when they definitely knew a deadly hurricane was coming, they should have left!! Not expect the government to be their daddy and take care of them.
NOPE! Sure don't.
And I don't see how ppl serve the Lord in New Orleans with all the voodoo and hoodoo that goes on there!!!
That hurricane was a blessing. God don't like ugly and the ones who DESERVED His rewards are living better than they've EVER lived after moving away from the BIG EASY!!
@tupace4ever...yes, there is crime everywhere, but there are certain places that aren't as bad b/c of morale. If you live in a bad neighborhood that isn't progressive and don't try to get out or change it, then I guess you fit in or you're just complacent.
Ceelie Flag post @ Dingbat...I mean Tygalily
Flavor? Oh yes you mean the flavor of "red" Kool aid and chitterlings. Yawn. Scram you tape worm. ###########################################
Awwwh, the blue-blood wannabe is RED FACED! LMHO. For real this time ... Adios! Abientot! Arrivederci! Ciao! Sayonara! BYE.
FYI, the majority of the people on welfare are white and Hispanic women, if you didn't know.....as a matter of fact even rich people get welfare (food stamps) because they don't want to spend there green on food....I've witness plenty of rich folks on food stamps...If I were able to get stamps without *** up papers and lying I would definitely get them.......The government cheat you, they take a substantial amount of money out your check bi-weekly and give you less when income tax rolls around, so basically there getting over on you.
mofo's killen me.....Especially the surbanites...when them the biggest ho's first off...Secondly the biggest baseheads in the burbs from the parents to the kids...I dont see no 12yr old BLACK kids *** dope...sellin yeah... And the surburbanites the biggest idenity theft mofo's out here... Dont even get me started on the daddy *** they oWn kids and ***...cuttin up the wives and *** and eatin em...
And yall mofo's a smoke anything...crack, meth, paint, bleach, gas. aLL BLACKS fOLKS SMOKEIN IS dem treez... The next time ya house gets broken into ya need to go next door to Bobby's!!! He in the basement smokein up flat screen T.V...
Whats crazy is how you all are saying "my city is better than yours, yada, yada, yada"
Do you all realize that we live in ONE nation?
So that means EVENTUALLY crime in Detroit will affect me in Memphis, crime in NY will ultimately affect me in Miami, either directly or indirectly. Crime has SOOOOOO many repercussions. I can do a crime here and serve time in YOUR state. Crimes that are commited in other states are the reason for some of YOUR state laws. I can go on and on.
How stupid to think that crime is only indigenous to the cities that some assh*le has deemed "dangerous"
Crime exists EVERYWHERE and if there are 400 murders in Philly, as an AMERICAN citizen, I should be concerned
Thats the purpose of these lists and comparisons. To create dissention. And people take the bait each time.
For all yall that think your city is better or somehow exempt from crime, I'm here to tell you, its the same sh*t, different day in your hood and mines
@KWILLIAMS
WE ARE ON THE SAME PAGE!!! THEY SAY NEW ORLEANS IS THE WORST CITY. IF A BLACK MAN WALKED IN NEW ORLEANS WITH ALL RED OR ALL BLUE ON IN ANY OF THE "BAD AREAS" IN NEW ORLEANS, DUDES WOULD BE LIKE, WHY DOES HE HAVE ON ALL RED OR ALL BLUE?!? BUT IF THE GUY WENT TO LOS ANGELES WITH ANY OF THOSE COLORS ON IN THE WRONG NEIGHBORHOOD, HE WOULD GET ***....BUT NEW ORLEANS IS THE WORST CITY!!! GIVE ME A BREAK!!!!!
And I don't see how ppl serve the Lord in New Orleans with all the voodoo and hoodoo that goes on there!!!
************************************************* Do you live under a rock? Do you really believe that sh*t? Voodoo? You believe everything you see on tv, huh?
If I *** on your leg and tell you its raining, will you believe me?
More evil goes on in Hollywood & DC than in NO You need to be more concerned with your own salvation b/c it has to be a sin to be this *** DUMB
AGH!I live by Mlwaukee.Very close.LOL!
Anyway Y'all get a f*cking grip y'all know New Orleans is probably bad as sh*t and how do y'all know they're talking about JUST crimes?
They might be talking about natural disasters.
For those who are really wishing their city was higher shame on you.Lol.
For those who are denying this list because their city is bad as hell this list makes the most sense to me.And all the other lists are most likely either the same or very close. New orleans will probably still be #1.LOL!But I think Detroit should've been number one or Compton/LA.
Now this is sad. Black people only make up about 12% of the US population yet majority, if not all the cities on the list are predominantly black. What does this say about our race?! If the US was a predominantly black country, the US would probably be consider a dangerous country since it seems wherever there are a large number of African Americans, the crime rate increases. Basically this is what the list is saying to me. Then we get upset when other races don't want us living around them. Hell after seeing this, I can't blame them now. I pray to God this list is biased cause this is messed up. And I really don't think the shid is cute or funny at all.
@MONEYHUNGRY
TELL ME HOW MANY PEOPLE YOU KNOW FROM NEW ORLEANS WHO PRACTICE VOODOO?!?!? DON'T MAKE STATEMENTS BASED ON WHAT YOU SEE OR HEAR OR HAVE READ.....THE REASON VOODOO WAS PRACTICED IN NEW ORLEANS WAS BECAUSE SEVERAL HAITIAN SLAVES CAME TO THE CITY OVER 200 YEARS AGO. THEY PRACTICED VOODOO BECAUSE THAT IS ONE OF THEIR NATIONAL RELIGIONS. NEW ORLEANS IS A MAJORITY CATHOLIC CITY!!!! LESS THAN 1% PRACTICE VOODOO IN THE CITY NOWADAYS!!!
for grownsexybruh -
I'll tell you why it happens in Milwaukee... unemployment rate for Black males LAPS unemployment for non-Black
MPS, Milwaukee Public Schools is garbage.
We have one of the highest teen pregnancy rates in the country. Moms = dropouts; their chidren ??? (psssst...endn up on the street slangin' and bangin')
Of course there are exceptions to the rule, but the trend is perverse.
grownnsexybruh Flag post DOES ANYONE HAVE A THEORY AS TO WHY CRIME RUNS RAMPANT IN CITIES WITH LARGE BLACK POPULATONS AS OPPOSED TO CITIES WITH MAJORITY WHITE POPULATIONS? INSIGHT PLEASE
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Well, being that I'm in Oakland I can tell you for a fact that there are not enough positive influences or job opportunities for the black youth that there are of the white youth in white areas. So crime, for the most part, is all that the black youth know; i.e. selling drugs, robbing/stealing, etc.
And what's sad is that they can get locked up, do their time and rehabilitate themselves. But, once they get back out into society, employers are not trying to give them a chance.
Black man+criminal record=No job
At this point, there is no other choice but to slip back into crime again. They have to survive somehow. It doesn't make things right, but nowadays in the inner cities that's how it goes unfortunately.
It's a never ending cycle.
OMG PEOPLE CHILL-F*CKING-AX!
These are the most dangerous mostly due to previous events and other news.
Detroit and LA are known for riots. New Orleans...Have you already forgotten Katrina? And when it's ALL cleaned up (if it's not already cleaned I don't stay with these news.) people are probably plotting to riot it.
Compton is very well known for it's gang violence.Can we please play a track of NWA when they actually described it?
ATL now y'all know with all these rappers and singers living in the A there are people who are trying to kill them.
And I can definitely look at the list (especially Minneapolis,Gary,and Milwaukee) and can tell that these are some dangerous cities telling by who's from there and news on what happened there.
They might be cooling off now yes but they still had some memorable events that were dangerous.This list is definitely believeable and y'all should stop being in f*cking denial because y'all are embarrassed.
Y'all might be used to the violence and crimes and maybe live in a certain area that it doesn't happen in but just because Y'ALL are used to it doesn't mean it's not DANGEROUS.It's just not uncommon and I think y'all got that confused!
Other than that I'm surprised Chicago and nothing from New York is up there...
SHE- SO- FLY, YOU ARE SOOO CORRECT. BUT I BROKE THAT CYCLE QUICK. AND ONE THING ABOUT THE BAY, THEM BLACK BOYS WILL PUT OUT A SONG QUICK AND IT BE KNOCKIN OR DANCE OR GET ON SOME OTHER BAY ***, SOME POSITIVE THINGS BUT MOSTLY AIMED AT THE WHITE KIDS.
I DO MISS IT. I FELT MOST CREATIVE OUT THERE.
PEACE TO U SO FLY
NYC isnt on the list thank God and to everyone that's saying Brooklyn should be up there, we're not that bad, its getting better, its ghetto in some places lol but we got some good neighborhoods
lol @ people reppin' their cities for being on the list, this isnt a compliment its a sign that we need to do better!
@She_so_fly
"Well, being that I'm in Oakland I can tell you for a fact that there are not enough positive influences or job opportunities for the black youth that there are of the white youth in white areas."
Positive influences for black children? The only positive influence for any child should be their parent(s). You *** have to look outside of the household for that. Quit treating black men like babies and maybe one day they'll quit acting like them. Do the crime to the time and face the consequences
I'm sorry antidumb but you're right.
We are the "loser" race.
Dumb *** continue to big up their cities' crime rate as if it's a crowning achievement worthy of the Nobel Prize.
*** NEW ORLEANS: MOST OF THOSE EVACUEES WAITED UNTIL THE CHECK FINALLY RAN OUT TO DO SOMETHING WITH THEMSELVES. THESE PPL ARE HUMAN ANIMALS FOR REAL.
*** THE STATE OF MICHIGAN: THE WASTELAND NUFF SAID.
EVEN THOUGH OBAMA IS IN OFFICE THE NYGGAS STILL OUTNUMBER BLACK PPL.
Antidumb-I overlooked you for so long with your holier than thou diatribes, I give it to you though you really bleed the keyboard with characters taking up *** near the whole post to make a point for alignment for your imaginary podium in which you position yourself; Certified talk though...If you never been to Brooklyn then I suggest you keep our borough characters away from your fingers along your keyboard...True Say-True Talk.Brooklyn Lives-Born,Bred and Raised..Early...
@iluvbilloreilly
Die a slow painful death(stabbing,drowning).
@Ceelie Anotha cracka on here spittin that ***. As a man you either work for it or take it. If the heads of companies have a vendetta against black men as it relates to hiring then what else is there for a black man? I'm not makin excuse but the environ sometimes causes you to think about now and not your future ***.
I am from New Orleans and I just want to say this aint nothing new. We been murder capital and always will. Get it how you live. All these people saying all this *** about you should be asumed f**k that we been living like this all our life like it or not we going to do us. Just dont come to our city with that *** holing and you can leave our city alive.
Like Wayne say" If you aint from Uptown dont go Uptown"
Ceelie
I agree with you. However, let's face the facts:
Every child is not going to grow up in a supportive household.
In a lot of cases, the parents are just as bad as the kids.
And then there are babies with the hood mentality continuously having babies.
And there are those who likely did grow up in a positive household with positive parents, yet still get caught up in the hood life and crime; likely due to peer pressure.
So the fact of the matter is a lot of kids are looking beyond parents for influence (whether good or bad), especially if the parents and household are not right. It's sad.
Ceelie Says: Positive influences for black children? The only positive influence for any child should be their parent(s). You *** have to look outside of the household for that. Quit treating black men like babies and maybe one day they'll quit acting like them. Do the crime to the time and face the consequences
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You're right.But really even the parent(s) nowadays are acting a fool.Such as doing drugs,prostituting,drinking alcohol,etc.
So kids is like ok,my parent do it so why can't I?So they go off with other people who introduce them to more bad things.
Now I'm not really someone who've experienced it but this is common sense.
I lived in 2.... Richmond, CA and Oakland, CA (Now I live in the Los Angeles area)
This saddens me.... But given a choice, I would much rather live in Oakland than Richmond. Negroes in Richmond are more "country" than Oakland. Richmind is much smaller than Oakland, but just as dangerous. My mother went to Richmond H.S. (Coach Carter). Oakland does have really nice areas to live (mostly in the hills)...
I still have family living in both cities.
1-This list is a vary narrow view made by two caucasians who sat behind a desk and compiled NUMBERs. They dont tell you that newark(where I live) carjacks..joyrides and ditches and or chops cars and nothing is ever found out....or in camden drug dealers avoid being caught by driving atv's to evade police and the way camden is laid out it allows this...in detroit bodies are left in empty houses in the dead of winter and arent found..TOO many variables to compile a list of what city is most dangerous
2-yall are killin me with this *** about how good it is to be on the list...like its a badge of honor...yall are really confused individuals. I would challenge MTO to actually do something positive and maybe construct a list of cities with the TOP black businesses...Or showcase some neighborhoods with black folks in a clean community that takes care of eachother...would that be too hard to do? We have other peoples constantly coming in and controlling our neighborhoods...why not take some of those guns and start and unofficial citizens police force. I mean comon
@grownnsexybruh
LIKE I SAID CRIME IS EVERYWHERE...IN WHITE NEIGHBORHOODS IT'S WORST, SUCH AS RAPE, THEFT, CHILD MOLESTATION, MURDER...BUT YET NO ONE POST THAT, THEY ONLY POST CRIME IN BLACK NEIGHBORHOODS SO YOU CAN THINK THAT IS WHERE THE MAJORITY OF CRIME IS...POLICE OFFICERS CREATE CRIME IN THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS...I LIVED IN RICHMOND CA, BUFFALO NY, ST LOUIS,HOUSTON,OKLAHOMA,DALLAS,OAKLAND CA, ORANGE COUNTY, SAN DIEGO, LONDON........NEIGHBORHOODS ARE SOMEWHAT SIMILAR BUT DIFFERENT CRIMES. I LIVE IN MARIN COUNTY NOW AND IT'S 98 % WHITE, AND YES IT'S CRIME HERE BUT DIFFERENT. A WOMAN WAS JUST MURDERED TWO DAYS AGO IN A PARK HERE, BUT THE FUNNY THING IS THAT IT WASN'T *** , IT WAS NOT ON THE NEWS, IT WAS ONLY IN THE LOCAL PAPER, JUST BECAUSE YOU DON'T HERE ABOUT IT DOESN'T MEAN IT'S NOT GOING ON.
