: MediaTakeOut.com learned that one of R&B singer Monica's biggest fans just put her ON BLAST on Twitter and on his blog. Here's what he said about her:
I think that this is a horrible lesson for people to go off, to live with a man have babies with a man have unprotected sex with a man, buy him a car and use the Bible to justify what you are doing. A man gives you a Gucci purse and you spread your legs *Tiny* . If he loved you so much why won’t he marry you, why does he continue to sleep around??? Why do you allow him to have kids with other women if you truly want his hear *Toya* why do you live with a man, have premarital sex, but wont marry him *Monica*Here’s Monica's response, via her Twitter page:This illegitimacy that's going around is ruining black families everywhere and that is the reality, like [someone] said to me, to those who are given much more is required. These girls talk about how they want to be role models and how they want people to look up to them, but are they not aware of the negative example they are setting?? And once again why is this the examples kids are supposed to look up to. I would be so proud and happy if Diddy married Kim Porter, if Monica married Rocko, if Tiny married TI instead of playing house.
If you want to live a life of sin that’s fine, but don’t be upset when people judge you and if they do, don’t throw out bible versus to justify what you do or don'tt. Because people could easily turn the next page and find something demeaning to you and your lifestyle.
Someone just brought to my attention that u are conversing with me & posting it on your site. I wouldn't mind had u been as open about that as u are your opinions about the way that different celebrities live.We're not sure exactly how we feel about this. On one hand, we think it was VERY FRESH for some man to tell Monica that she can't go quoting the Bible. Isn't that supposed to be a good thing??I actually respected the fact that you had your own opinions and stood by them but using our convo with the holes that people will log in is NOT an option. If u want to know why I quote scriptures, it's because they are what I read to help me to grow.
I am a role model, just not the type that pretends to be something she is not. Each day as I learn I share, the celebs who pretend they are without flaws I know and trust they are no better. These kids know when I speak now I speak from experience and can assist them in NOT making the same mistakes.
We all take different paths. My journey isn't just for me. In order to get to you must go thru. So until our paths cross face2face be blessed. (Editor’s Note - Uh Oh, what is that supposed to mean??)
What was read to me was degrading and unnecessary. Trust Charles, if I wanted to be married I would be, just like Halle Berry and many others this life was my choice. Hold no pity party for me. Don't stereotype or group me into categories. People didn't do it to Goldie Hawn or Madonna who had her first daughter on her own terms. I am very displeased that the label had to call and tell me it was up. I would have rather u told me & properly address my view.
Don't group me with others because all of our situations differ.
Also, ain't that SOOOO typical of a man. Blaming the women - who are holding down their families, and IGNORING the role that the MEN PLAY in the situation . . .
He got a pt....nt to judge them cuz that's not our job. And don't tell her to lose her faith *** God cuz she sins....we were all born sinners....BUT its the truth about their lives. And Mto right. How bout these no good men. That's prolly the real issue. Them ***!%%@ pop the question them women would accept. The saga of the black family...
People can't always know how a relationship will turn out or when a child may be conceived.
There is nothing in the bible that says a state issued *** & a molded band of metal & semi-precious stones is required for marriage. Those materials don't prove SH!T or prevent people from breaking up or cheating. Your heart & actions do, however.
People need to mind their own business.
I grew up in a home where they married, and the man in the relationship was never there. So do not scream about marriage like it is the best thing. My parents were married for 26 years and I still felt like I had a single parent household. The Bible never stated you had to get a legal *** to be together, and I see many parents who are not married who do a better job with their kids than those that are in an unsuccessful marriage. Just because you have kids does not mean you should get married.
@ZOLDCITE IF YOURE GONNA QUOTE THE BIBLE WHAT???.... F^CK THAT SHE HAS E VERY RIGHT TO QUOTE THE BIBLE .WTF . NONE OF US ARE PERFECT NONE OF US ARE WITHOUT SIN. WE WERE ALL BORN INTO SIN. I HATE WHEN A PERSON IN GENERAL SAYS THEYRE INTO JESUS AND OR A CHRISTIAN *** PEOPLE EXPECT THEM TO BE PERFECT *** NOT USE PROFANITY OR THIS THAT *** THE OTHER. B.S. LIKE I SAID THEE WHO IS NOT WITH OUT SIN ( WHO IS THEREFORE PERFECT?) THROW THE 1ST STONE. FOOLS. MONICA DO YOU. LAST TIME I CHECKED MARRIAGE = 2 PEOPLE IN A COMMITED, LOYAL RELATIONSHIP.
People should do exactly what makes them happy. Marriage isn't for everybody, not everyone wants to be married. Attempting to stand on any type of religion in order to make others feel bad or small is just as awful as what they accuse of other people are doing "wrong" in their lives.
Newsflash: It's THEIR life, not yours. Get over yourself.
Get married or stop quoting bible verses. Its hypocrisy and its the same hypocrisy that non every sunday church goers have been complaining against the churchs for yrs. And her defense is whack really Madonna and Halle did it? Come on that's something my son says when he's caught doing something he isn't supposed to be doing but (so and so did it too mommy) GTFOH
I DIDNT KNOW HAVING A RING ON THE FINGER AND/OR HAVING A CEROMONY FOR SOCIETY ACCOUNTED FOR BEING MARRIED. THERE ARE MUCH MORE PEOPLE WHO DONT HAVE THAT RING ON THE FINGER THAT ARE MORE COMMITED THAN THE ONES WHO DO. ITS WHATS IN YOUR HEART. FORGET ALL HYPROCRITES MONICA. BECAUSE MOST HUMAN BEINGS IF NOT ALL ARE JUST THAT. THATS Y I DONT CARE FOR PEOPLE EXCEPT MY KIDS. *** EVERY1 ELSE. *** IVE NEVER BEEN MARRIED IN ANY ASPECT. OMG STONE. IF WITHOUT SIN OF COURSE
at the end of the day her relationship with god should not be questioned! God has a plan for each individual person and judging is not welcomed anywhere in the bible.....i checked! no matter what the case people are human meaning they will make mistakes and in the process others will have opinions so whatever! I pray that us women start standing up for ourselves and stop acting like we just have to be with a man and change our last name before we die everyone is NOT meant to be married .
*** WHAT ABOUT PEOPLE WHO WANTED KIDS AND HAVE KIDS LIKE ME BUT DONT WANT TO GET MARRIED? IN AN IDEAL LIFE SURE IF I MET THE IDEAL PERSON YES I WOULDVE LIKED TO HAVE BEEN MARRIED. BUT I HAVENT DEALT WITH AND IM SURE IM NOT GONNA MEET ANY MAN FIT TO MARRY.ALL MEN ARE INTO *** LIKE THATS ALL IT IS IN LIFE. NO MATTER WHAT RACE *** NO MATTER WHAT ANY1 SAYS. MEN ARENT SERIOUS. SO ID RATHER BE SINGLE. *** NO IM NOT DATING DONT CARE TO GET WITH A MAN IN ANY FASHION. JUST KICK IT WITH MY KIDS
ITS NOT A BLACK ISSUE, ITS A HUMAN RACE ISSUE. BLACKSOR AFRICAN AMERICANS, OR WHATEVER ONE MAY CONSIDER THEMSELVES *** GROUP THEIR OWN PEOPLE AS NEGATIVE, ALL ETHNIC GROUPS ENGAGE IN THE SAME ACTS. NO ONE WILL EVER BE FREE FROM SIN, EEN IF YOU ARE MARRIED, FORNICATOR, ETC. TO SAY SOMEONE *** QUOTE A BIBLE SCRIPTURE BECAUSE TEHY LIVE IN SIN, INDIRECTLY IMPLIES SOMEONE WHO IS SELF RIGHTEOUS. I DO MANY THINGS RIGHT IN CORRELATION TO MY RELIGIOUS BELIEFS, HOWEVER I DO SOME THINGS THAT ARE NOT ETHICAL OR WRONG. lIKE FOR EXAMPLE,MY RELIGION TEACHES NOT TO GOSSIP, BUT I DO
Should he be judging. No! Because none are perfect. But if she believes in God and trusts the Lord's word then she KNOWS that what she is doing is wrong. Just like most of us do. Believing in God doesn't make sinning right. As long as she's able to sleep in the bed, she can make it up anyway she likes. That's the power of free will.
Both had good points... However, I feel that MEN should not judge the choices women, who hold families together, make.
MEN NEED TO GO HARD ON EACH OTHER ABOUT BEING BETTER MEN, FATHERS, ROLE MODELS TO THE YOUNGER GENERATION... AND STOP COMING DOWN ON THE SISTERS WHO ARE IN ESSENCE THE GLUE THAT HOLDS NOT ONLY FAMILIES BUT THE BLACK COMMUNITY TOGETHER.
The flesh sin everyday that we are on the face of this earth. We all do it everyday, so to put her on blast. Hmmm, what are you sin? Just bcuz she a celeb; that dont make her perfect. She's human! Monica is a child of God and keep quoting, Monica. There's always going to be someone who disagrees. LOVE MONICA!!!!
These women should respect themselves more and stop allowing men to misuse and abuse their bodies,pump them full of babies, and have the freedom to sleep around. Raise your standards baby, demand respect. But just like the old saying goes " why buy the cow, when you can get the milk free"...But stop putting God into everything until your ready to commit to him totally...He's a jealous God, he will have no other God before him....that's word right there....you can do it right when you get it right.....Get it right people and then talk about it....
It just amazes me how we as black people have become sooo JUDEGEMENTAL of each other over the years when we hv been judged so freely by others for millions of years....
Let Monica live HER life! She is happy. Her children are well taken care of & she is not on any government aide. Im sorry, would u rather her be married & unhappy?
Instead of worrying about the nxt man, sweep ya own front porch. get ur life 2gether! Nt to mention the mere fact this guy told her she cnt quote bible scriptures becuz she isnt married shows his intelligence. Im done. GET UR LIFE IN ORDER!
THIS IS SUCH A TOUCHY SUBJECT.ALL THAT MATTERS IS - IF MONICA & ANY ONE ELSE, "BELIEVES" GOD'S SON DIED ON THE CROSS 4 OUR "SINS" SO THAT "WE" WILL HAVE EVERLASTING LIFE.WITH THAT BEING SAID, I'M NOT SAYING THAT 2 SAY, OH YEAH I BELIEVE THAT, BUT I'M GONNA GO MURDER SOMEONE, I'M GONNA GO LIE OR STEAL, ETC....ALL I'M SAYING IS, IF WE TRULY BELIEVE THAT JESUS DIED ON THE CROSS 4 OUR SINS, WE WILL HAVE EVERLASTING LIFE. SIMPLY PUT, LIVE LIFE AS IF JESUS HIMSELF WERE SITTING RIGHT BESIDE U.WHEN YA SIN, TRULY REPENT & MOVE ON.ALL THIS OTHER BS DOESN'T REALLY MATTER.
How dare that *** try to come at Monica. Yes, I agree being married is better BUT being married is not gonna guarantee you're gonna be happy, or your husband is gonna stay faithful. Just look at Michael Jordan and his EX wife, hell look at a lot of these other couples who were married but it was just like they weren't. They still were unhappy, still got cheated on, had outside children, etc. I don't think it's far for people to tell another grown person what she or he should do. Some people don't believe in married. Just like some do. Times have changed my friend, unfortunately.
Yeah, why isn't anyone putting Rocko, or Diddy, or Wayne, or T.I. on blast for having kids all over the place and not being married? Until Black men learn to stop whining and take some responsibility for the ills of our community, we will never thrive as a people. It takes two to tango, and the Bible is not the domain of one group of people. It is for everyone. Judgement is the Lord's and the Lord's alone.
I agree 100% with whoever condoned Monica living this life. Sista's are in control of their bodies not men. Black women having babies out of wedlock is epidemic. It is one thing if it were because of rape, but they are laying down and having unprotected *** with a man that can just walk while the child has to have a lifetime with one parent. Wake up girls! I know we can do better and can exercise more control than we are doing.
I wrote this blog on my website Charleshater.blogspot.com and im surprised to find this on mediatake out today............
Ive been reading the comments and i stand by my ideology, i dont think my approach was as tactful as it should or couldn't been but my ideals will NOT CHANGE on this matter, women like tiny, toya etc..... Are terrible role models, in the black community less than 1/3 of our children our conceived in wedlock, because men and women PLAY HOUSE instead of getting married or are just abandoned all together. R
They both made very good points. But the most obvious matter which was completely skipped is the male's role in all of this. Have our expectations for black men playing the correct father/husband role sunk so low that we no longer look to men for answers and clarification? Hell yes. And its gonna effect the many generations to come.
Hate has nothing to do with it. All these wanna be famous again chicks on BET are doing the same thing; playing house. If that's what you want to do that's cool. By all means do you! But...You cannot throw out scripture to justify sin. If you don't live by it then you don't know it, so don't quote it.
UH OH.....Well uh he does have a valid point. As for Monica she definitely can do much better ......... MORE IMPORTANTLY WHAT "WOMAN" WOULD NOT WANT TO BE MARRIED TO A MAN ESP. IF SHE HAVN HIS BABIES & QUOTING BIBLE VERSES?---NOT BUYING IT!
*******A L S O, I DON'T RECALL HALLE, MADONNA OR GOLDIE RUNNING AROUND QUOTING BIBLE VERSES EITHER!
>>>>>MEN WHO LAY UP W/ WOMEN & CONTINUOUSLY IMPREGNATE THEM & THE WOMEN WHO CONTINUE 2 SPREAD THEIR LEGS 2 THESE MEN & HAVE NO RESPECT WHATSOEVER-----PERIOD!
Monica can live her life however she so pleases and that goes double for the rest of the adult human population. When we make wrong choices we hopefully live to learn a lesson that betters the choices we make next time around when the end result is not what we had hoped or planned for. Her response to those who judge her is easy to defend she's not emotionally attached to them and can easily dismiss them as HATERS, but when her son's start asking her why you and daddy not married? That question won't be so easy to brush off or answer..... 4u2.com
I was just SAYING this ***.
Monica keeps talkin about what a strong single mother she is, all the while, this "dad" is standing next to her.
This baby *** thing is gettin' out of hand. BET has been endorsing it all crazy and every black woman seems to think it's cute. I, for one, don't. Monica, GTFOH. Word.
From reading that response that Monica wrote she is clearly intelligent, I am impressed. But she needs to go somewhere with that I choose to live this life because by her stating that says either one of two things to me. #1 either she is ignorant, and she is clearly suffering with that Ms Independent/I don't need a man but will be a breeder Willie Lynch syndrome. Or #2 she is lying. What is sad is if you disect the Willie Lynch letter which most people have read and every significant word look it up in a dictionary so you can get the proper definiton and context. You would be floored.
Bravo! It's about time somebody called them all out! Monica does have a lot of nerve quoting the Bible when she lives like she does. To consider herself a "role model" is just irresponsible. Matter of fact Toya and Tiny and Monica don't belong on T.V. they are all ghetto hoodrats with money that don't represent affluent blacks. So I say take thier ghetto baby mamas as-ses off tv altogether.
I agree with both sides, now the Bible says not to Judge anyone, we don't have that right 2 do that but it still happens. However we are living in the flesh and we make mistakes, but the Bible also states that we must correct what we have done and turn away from wordly things, now once you have accepted Jesus into your life there will be a change that will tranform you into living the right way. Life is *** enjoy it but living this worldly life is not worth your soul going 2 HELL. I feel if your truely in love someone God sent to you then there should be no hesitation into marriage.
I like Monica! I'm not going to judge her on this because this WORLD is OUT OF CONTROL. There are wayyy more important issues to address! I will say this...I've NEVER read of a formal WEDDING ceremony in the bible. Just a wedding party which we now call a reception. In the bible, an agreement was made to marry then *** consecrated the marriage to CONFIRM the marriage agreement. AFTER...there was a marriage reception to celebrate the marriage! READ FOR YOURSELVES! LETS NOT MIX MANS LAWS AND TRADITIONS WITH WHAT GOD SAYS! ***?
I am not judging anyone because i am no saint either but if you are going to live a Christian life you have to do God's will not yours. people keep saying its her life and body but really its god's own. God said we should our bodies should be a living sacrifice for him not our own selfish desires. at the end of the day we will all have to give account for our lives and if it is not up to God's standard we will endure great pain and tribulations. trust me it will happen if we fail to obey God's words.
The females posting this should worry about doing them & that;s that! Yes,they make good points however Monica alongside many other celeb chicks or chicks that hooked up with male celebs or pro athletes have all the $$ to live a posh life & can make & take care of *** many kids they decide to have..Can the women that stated the above say the same? Just saying..do you & don't worry about the next person
The same God who said "that it is better to marry than to burn" is also the same God who said "He who is without sin, let him cast the first stone" We are not to judge. I don't understand why people want to convict others for sins that are different from the ones that they committ. We all sin, even Christians. No one is sinless, some just sin - less than others.
and people also looking at other Christians who are doing things that are not right and then using it has a excuse to not give their selves to the Lord we should pay less time focusing on them and focus on our own lives because when God comes we will have to give account for all the sins we have done. they themselves will also have to give account stop focusing on others and focus on your own lives.
Both have some good points. But, I do agree with what the fan is saying a bit more. No one should go around quoting the bible, if u are not living right. I think its ignorant to want to have babies with a man. But, not desire to marry him at all Monica. Please, every woman wants to be married at least once in her lifetime.
how dare this person use the lord and then try to judge monica.... no one is perfect no one no one but God himself. let monica leave her life and find salvation for herself we cant go to heaven or hell for her... she had an excellent point about goldie and madonna... why get held to a higher standard because we are black woman... people need to start doing better not just black people.... and the child is not a sin... the sexual act was... how precious and gracious is the lord to reward us with life when we do things that can cause death...woo god thank you
@ MamiSoooPrecious06... Well said! I totally agree. Our community no longer holds men accountable. They are supposed to be the leaders, but more and more as time goes on, they do not exemplify this.
@ allahuakbar... As far as the "Independent Woman" comment u made... more and more women within our community have to be this way because the MEN ARE NOT DOING THEIR JOBS!!! A LOT OF TIMES, THE WOMEN HAVE TO BECOME THE MAN OF THE HOUSE BECAUSE THE "REAL MEN"... FOR LACK OF BETTER WORDS, R NOT THERE, HOLDING IT DOWN!
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@ allahuakbar... IT'S A STATISTICAL FACT THAT WELL OVER 50% OF BLACK FAMILIES IN THIS COUNTRY DO NOT HAVE MALE FIGURES PRESENT IN THEM!... THEREFORE, THE WOMEN HAVE TO PICK UP THE SLACK AND BECOME THE "INDEPENDENT WOMEN" WHO "DON'T NEED A MAN"... CAUSE FOR THE MOST PART, THEY HAVE NO F*CKING CHOICE... THEY HAVE CHILDREN TO RAISE AND BILLS TO PAY! WOMEN CAN'T JUST WALK AWAY THE WAY A MAN CAN... IT'S A SHAME THAT IN OUR SOCIETY IT'S BECOME SO ACCEPTABLE FOR MEN TO JUST WALK AWAY FROM SITUATIONS WHILE WOMEN ARE BEING DOGGED ABOUT HOW THEY HANDLE SH*T WHEN THE MAN CHOOSES TO BOUNCE!
Just beacause you're Christian does not mean u r perfect. Everyone should try to grow and do the best they can everyday and let God handle the judging
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JUST BECAUSE YOU WANT TO BE AN INDEPENDENT WOMEN... THE CHILDREN SUFFER EMOTIONALLY, ETC...ETC.. THEN THEY GROW UP TO DO THE SAME THING.. HAVE CHILDREN ON THEIR OWN BY THEMSELVES.. YOU HAVE A GENERATION OR GENERATIONS OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE CREATED THEIR OWN DEMISE.. CHILDREN NEED THEIR PARENTS AND TO ME ESPECIALLY BLACK BOYS.. BLACK BOYS ARE BEING CHEATED !!!
WELL THERE ARE MANY SIDES TO THIS AND NONE OF THEM WIN:
YES I AGREE PEOPLE SHUD MARRY AND THEN HAVE KIDS (BUT THIS IS JUST MY OPINION).
I ALSO HAVE TO SAY THAT SOMETIMES IN FAMILIES THE PARENTS ARE TOGETHER BUT THE LIVING SITUATION IS SO DREADFUL THAT HOW ARE THEY REALLY HELPING THEIR KIDS???
WHAT ABOUT IF MONICA WAS MARRIED & THEN DIVORCED??? WOULD THE PERSON WHO SLAMMED HER STILL HAVE THE SAME OPINION?
At the end of the day people keep failing to realize that choosing to get married is the will of God we all know that many people cheat and abuse their partners who are married and the life doesn't guarantee happiness just like any other relationship between man and woman but God's will for couples is for us to get married we should not do want we want to do but follow God's will. Also not everyone are meant to be married and if so should live a celibate life because sat the end of the day we were placed on this earth to worship God and follow his word. if fail to do so we will
The bible is so deep and complex that even the best christian will fall very ***. We all have to remember that only God`s son was perfect everyone (and I mean everyone )else is a sinner! So to the gentelman who is judging these young celebrity moms you yourself have sinned in your judgement! Monica,Tiny,Toya,Rocko,T.I, and Wayne are all doing there best to go with god and do better. Not perfect but better. Plus there are a tons of married people who aren`t even trying the do better thing. So does that make them better christians just because they are married?
passing judgement is ungodly in istself so he too needs guidance...cant stand a person that wants to tell another adult what they should do when they are not perfect themselves...im sure if we knew his life story he too would have flaws that everyone would point out and suggest things he could do different!
Idk, why I have to come up on here and be sooo offended by wht was said in this post. Speaking from a somewht similar situtaion, (currently 8mo pregnant) and not married to the father of my child. I think it's always easier to judge the woman in the situation than it is to ask the man why HE is not accepting his responsibility. I would have never imagined that I would be a"single" unwed mother, after all why would I when I've been with the father of my child for 6 1/2 yrs prior. Talks and plans of marriage always in the air and everything, to my surprise I find out I'm pregnant. Now I want u
"if you want to live a life of sin thats fine, but dont be mad when ppl judge you......" okay its not ppl who are supposed to judge. its god who is supposed to do that, remember? and another thing monica is not a role model. none of these celebs are. ppl who love and uplift their communitity is. grandmothers and mothers are supposed to be role models. thats the problem yall are to *** lazy to raise your own *** kids. so you turn on the tv and expect celebs to teach your kids morals and values. then wanna be mad at the for raising your kids wrong. GTFO!!!!!!
BabyGirlMrs,
There is something serious that lies underneath the surface of all of our community ills. where we constantly as both men and women make excuse after excuse to live a life of immorality. I am not judging single mothers because as I stated either yesterday or the day before, if it wasn't for the single Black mothers having our babies then our population would ceast to exist. Do me a favor and read the willie lynch letter and every big word look it up in a dictionary and you will see that they did a number on our family unit. The majority of the white man's work revolves around the
You know the old saying when you point the finger at someone else, there are four fingers pointing back at you. Charles(I belive it is) look at yourself start with your change & judgements there first. Because thats all thats in your power you are not God. And shouldn`t try to speak for him. And for the rest of you guys who were comenting on single mothers you were right we do step up. But none of the woman Charles mentioned are single mothers the fathers are there and active so please don`t label these woman.
to answer me this, should I have aborted my child after he switched up and started actin brand new or should I have been a WOMAN 1st and keep, raise and nurture MY child like GOD intended? Ppl always wanna jump on the woman and blame her for the man's absece but the truth of the matter is, the bible States MAN finds WOMAN, WOMAN Does not FIND MAN so until these "MEN" start playing their roles women will continue to be overly independent...GOD gave us WOMEN the strength and patience to take care of our children with or without a man... Ya'll got a problem with single mothers than start
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Black female. The mother is the first teacher of us all and you look at the condition of the woman and you would see the condition of our communities. Ain't no other way around it. The Honorable Elijah Muhammad teaches us that 75% of our work is with the elevation of the Black woman. Because once she is resurrected then WE ALL will follow suit. Since she teaches us all. The Black woman is the factory that produces our future and the white man is doing everything to keep this Ms Independent but still be a breeder mentality alive. Peace sister.
Some people can be so *** judgemental! God's love is for everyone. So what Monica is not married! Some people don't choose to be married because of that she supposed to forgo her religion? And yeah Tiny is not married but she is in a committed relationship with a man that she loves and they will have a wedding soon. Toya can't control what Wayne does they are divorced! He can have babies because he has no obligation to her on some real ***. That *** that wrote that need to get off her high horse check her own invetory we all fall *** of the glory of God. None of us is perfect!
preaching and judging these men for being deadbeats. Im speaking from an independent get it on my own mindset, Im not one of these hoodrats who have kids for a check or who repeatedly have kids with different men, this is my 1st child and Despite wht society would deem "right" I will continue to be a *** good woman and a *** good mother... Talk all that sin *** to the father of my child if u wanna impose on some1's life... It seems as if the women who get abortions, just because of an unplanned pregnancy or cuz they're not married are seen in a more positive light, than those who accept the
responsibilities of their actions.... I dnt have toliv my life to no one's standards of living but GOD and when I make my mistakes HE is still an all-forgiving loving GOD...So monica and all the other WOMEN holdin *** down continue to do you and live your life because its no one's place to judge you.... To the "MEN" step it up and get your head out of the clouds because while ya'll are busy havin fun were out here doin your job...smdh
what we need is to start worrying about everyones problems and fix our own ***. to many people want to tell a person about themselves but dont want the same response thrown back in there face.
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Monica is a very beautiful and intelligent woman and mother. I love her show she has allot of class from what I see and style....She has a ring on her finger!
For many who may not know what the word of God truly say...When you sleep with someone you are married to that person....
Now Monica may not be legally married to him by paper but in God's eyes they are married (period). Tiny may not be married to TI by paper but again in God's eyes they are married..
Toya was married to nasty azz Lil' Wayne but had since divorce.......(What)!!!!
The dude's blog was right! The baby mama/daddy epidemic is out of hand. We had none of this prior to the 60's in the black community.
Western Culture (particularly America) is the only place on the planet where it's acceptable for women to run around birthing children out of wedlock.
And American Black women do it the most out of anyone! I would venture to say it's a productive practice if the community itself seemed to flourish under the practice - but it isn't.
Therefor it is a sign of regression!
And black people need to raise our standards and revisit traditional gender roles and
Monica... u r the realist in the industry.... I personally know powerful married in show business who are so called believers who have wife swapping sessions occasionally, then repent & go do the same thing... So married or not.. no ones perfect... the person who wrote that to monica is probably a closet hypocrite... let's research him & see how perfect their life is!
everyone running around behaving very selfishly, talking about "live your life" and "it's your business".
you cheapen yourself, your worth, and you cheapen the life that children (who didn't ask to be here) are entitled to.
bottom line ladies, if he doesn't love you enough to give you a ring before a he's willing to give you a child, then keep it moving!
and have enough discipline and resolve to keep your legs closed until you meet a man who is.
This site is filled with *** and ***! Proven by them co-signing such foolery!
And to the men, stop running around knocking broads up that YOU KNOW you're unsure whether or not you want to commit to for life! Y'all know y'all be doing that sh*t to cut her off from any potential suitors! It's like a dog marking his territory!
Man up and cut it out!
It's selfish of your part as well brothas!
Did the writer see his own sin in judging her and others initially?? Probably not because most "Christians" think that because they go to church three times a week and can quote scripture they can play God here on Earth and tell others how to live their lives. Meanwhile, they're the largest population of hypocrites. Fornicating, abortion, ***, adultery, coveting, wearing elaborate material (y'all didn't know Christians are NOT supposed to wear certain material...ITS IN THE BIBLE), judgement, theft. I can go on and on........
All the "sins" I listed are the ones "Chrsitians" like to focus on the most...however, I promise if they really wanted to live right and according to His word there would be some miserable people out here. So instead they pick and choose whats right and wrong. The next time one of you Holy Rolling females sit in the salon chair to get that touch up or track sewn in for Sunday's service ask yourself..."What would Jesus do?"
MONICA, TINY, & TOYA r not wrong or hypocrite. TINY& TI are common law married, they've been living together for over 7 years! beauty is in the eye of the beholder! as long as they know when they go to GOD their heart is pure. toya got married to wayne and it ended in divorce, so that tells you she can't get married until he's dead! (LOL) as for monica she's being a virtuous woman(proverbs 31) by allowing her kids father in their life instead of replacing him with tom, d*ck and harry!!!!!
If everyone that were born out of wedlock left the Earth tomorrow...the world would be practically EMPTY!.You think GOD doesn't know people are being born out of Wedlock?.....Why can't she quote the bible?..at least she reads it!...How many people actually KNOW where their Bibles are?..If they even HAVE one in their houses!...Nobody KNOWS how GOD judges,that won't come into effect until WE meet him...until then?.. Just DO the best you can, to BE the best you can, and leave the rest to him!...That's how I live.
I love Monica as an artist and I like her show. She has class unlike Nefee & Frankie & Keyshia Coles show or Vh1 reality shows. But, as a single mother of two children, the gentleman is correct when he says having children without being married isn't smart or something God condones. I would have loved to been a wife with my kids father. He was a *** in the end, so we never married. As a woman marriage is the right way and best way to raise children, if it's a very healthy union ONLY! It's hard on your own, and with fathers who aren't there is worse.
@chelle101
Nothing in life is certain! Not your career, your health, nothing! That doesn't keep one from committing or moving forward does it?
I'm tired of the excused from black MEN & WOMEN! I have not religious affiliation but it doesn't take a blind man to see that as a group we are moving backwards! REGRESSION!!! You know, the opposite of PROGRESS?!
There are terms used for people who run around having children by multiple partners outside of wedlock! They are called "breeders".
@ Coffeecolor
That's nonsense! You clearly don't observe global culture!
It is still common practice for men & women to marry before birthing children most places on the planet. Only in America and Europe is the practice of premarital child birth viewed as acceptable!
And it's a throwback to slavery when black men and women were forced to breed with different partners like livestock! Prior to the slave trade we did not conduct ourselves this way. Do you history and understand what works and what does not work!
There is nothing new under the sun!
God does not respect the union of any man or woman living together unmarried. Marriage is so sacred to God,it is everything good "when a man finds a wife he finds a good thing".When a woman finds he man she is better than blessed. It doesn't say anywhere in the bible about the blessing of "Shacking up" living together unmarried. What message are we as adults and the black community to our children about relationships?. God's word WILL NEVER EVER CHANGE FOR MANKIND! WE TRY AND CHANGE IT, IT WILL ALWAYS FAIL!. Monica can not truly be happy living a lie, and not this man's wife.
@ those who say people don't need to get married to suit "society".You are correct about that point! however I will say that if you quoting the bible then you should be married to suit god's law. nobody perfect and everyone makes mistakes but egads people!!! to be quoting the bible while deliberately flouting parts of it hypocritical.If she was saying "well i was living in sin but now im married and marriage is more inline with biblical teaching" then i would say quote on Monica. People who pick and choose the parts of the bible they believe in when it suits them get on my nerves
To all the young ladies out here on this site. Remember "If your good enough to lay with your man a year or more, your good enough to be his wife". Unless you are his wife, you'll never receive the full respect that a wife gets.It's just the reality, that you need to know.I can't wait to be blessed in marriage to a good man. I was a very good girlfriend, he was a *** and I am worth more than that. I deserve a man who values God and a good woman when it's in front of him. And so do you ladies, do not settle or be told "someday I'll marry you, don't rush me or worry about it!". BS all the way
The blogger is right. Monica is probably a good person but she is setting a wrong example. It is not hating, it is stating the truth. She needs to correct it by marrying the father. It is not fair to have thses children growing up in a broken home because you are afraid for whatever reason. It is too late now to say you are not sure about Rocko because you have 2 kids with him. It does say in the Bible that marriage is to come first and then be fruitful. Look at the world we live in today and you can clearly see with all of the craziness that no one is following that simple rule.
Black women always quoting the bible while fornicating, Living with men they are not married to and committing adultery. them same women can quote all the the verses about *** but can't quote nothing that speaks against what they are doing! If you doing dirt then that's your business just don't go around throwing bible verses at others. People can and should "testify" about the sins they used to commit not the ones they still committing!
1st of all no one is perfect only God is. So if she wants to qoute the bible she can she just better make sure she qouting it right, and learning 4rm it. 2nd everyone sins everyday so you ppl talking about how christians are hypocrites well just b/c they're christian doesn't mean there perfect that's why you repent. 3rd not all ppl are christians just b/c they attend church.
Wow, no wonder the Black community is continuing to deteriorate! You backwards thinking females are agreeing with Monica. While she may have the financial means to raise a child alone, most women do not, and seriously struggle. If you look at the wealthiest Black suburbs in Maryland, right outside of D.C. or Atlanta suburbs, most of the households are headed up by TWO parents. Children need to see that interaction between a married mother and father, so that they will have a template on how to raise their own children!
Okay I find this wrong. How do you quote bible scriptures/call yourself a Christian, etc and do the opposite of what's stated in the bible?
You can't pick and choose what's good for you and then forget the rest.
And the "marriage isn't forever" 'speeches' and mostly all the things people are saying who "oppose" getting married are lame. Find better points then that .. Living with a man you're in a relationship with and are not married to is a sin - you can't say we're wrong for thinking that when it's what we believe - we're Christians.
you can't go around judging others because remember that you're not perfect yourself. I personally am not going to let a man knock me up before he marries me. if he truly loves me, then he wouldn't be messing around with other females and he would put a ring on it. you can't blame the male or the female in the relationship because it takes TWO. they both laid down. we all need to set our standards higher.
@ SoSerious4life
Lol, it's funny how some of you are dogging out Monica but a bet money a lot of you all didn't save your virginity for your husband. Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that a sin as well? Having *** without being married? Um yea!
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yeah *** before marriage is a sin. I guilty of that myself but I don't go around calling myself a role model and quoting scriptures while still doing the same ish!!! The point is not the sin but the hypocrisy.
I know I am going to catch hell for saying this but the women on here defending unprotected, premarital *** are just undisciplined hoes who cannot keep their desires in check. I'm not quoting the bible, but to let a man that is not marrying you spew his seed inside you is just so devoid of self-respect! Period. I'm not a church going woman and I believe men should own up to their responsibility, but *** is not an equal playing field. Women have babies and have to be an example to children. I do believe that was a burden put on us by God.
its funny how everyone is saying leave Monica alone they can't stand ppl who judge God can only judge her he needs to mind his buisness
but let MTO post something about *** ppl everyone would be condemming them to hell lol
i can't stand christians they just like to pick what fits comfortable to them yall don't even suppose to be on this site lol
I like Monica and everything, but she's being a little bit of a hypocrite and so are most of you. A hypocrite is someone who contradicts his or her stated beliefs or feelings. If she's such a good Christian woman and reads the bible daily, she wouldn't be having children out of wedlock and she would know that what she was/is doing is wrong. Don't get me wrong, I am not a Christian and in my eyes, I see nothing wrong with her doing her and living her life. I just don't like when people say one thing and then do the opposite. And don't even get me started on the ignorant and arrogant ones.
SO *** WHAT MONICA AINT MARRIED..AND MOST OF YALL AZZES AINT EITHER AND IF YOU ARE MARRIED YOUR AZZ IN UNHAPPY OR YOUR HUSBAND OF WIFE IS CHEATING!! CUT THE ***!T!! MONICA LIVE YOUR LIFE THE WAY YOU WANT TO LIVE IT NOT THE WAY PEOPLE THINK U SHOULD LIVE IT!! YOU WOULD GO CRAZY TRYING TO PLEASE A *** IMPERFECT HUMAN!!! PEOPLE OUT HERE MARRIED AND UNHAPPY AS HELL TALKING ABOUT SOMEBODY WHO AINT MARRIED!! MARRIAGE IS A BIG HYPE TO ME! IT DONT GUARANTEE U NOTHING BUT A NEW LAST NAME!! GET A GRIP AND FACE REALITY PEOPLE!! SHE GOT TWO KIDS WITH ONE MAN AND THAT'S GOOD ENOUGH FOR ME!!!
If Monica is happy and she and her children are being loved and treated well by Rocko then leave her alone. It's so many other things that are wrong with relationships, such as physical & mental abuse. Her living HER life is what she's supposed to do and she is growing each day and sees her mistakes and tries to live her life right. No one is perfect and for us to think that since she is MONICA (the entertainer) that she has no flaws would be silly of us. I enjoy her show, she is a real woman with real problems and for someone looking in from the out judging her is REAL SILLY.
This is really, really dumb. I mean really dumb since yall want the bible it says in romans 8:28 the creature meaning us was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him Jesus who hath subjected the same in hope. None of us are prefect as human beings we can do whatever we want to only man condemns.My thing is we can get save & still struggle with sin why? Because the bible says in Romans 9 God is the one who choses which vessel he will harden vs the vessel he will honor. My thing is Monica has always been opened with her life. She has never hid anything from anybody.
@ Coffeecolor
So let me get this str8...EVERYBODY on here was born in Wedlock and are NOW married or married BEFORE they had their kids OR had ***?Yall the most perfect *** people I've ever seen in my life...Too bad we can't see the real deal through the computer
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No i don't think anyone on this blog is implying that they were all virgins til marriage and all were born or had kids in wedlock. What we are saying is don't be a hypocrite. Don't quote the bible verses and still deliberately committing sins. If you doin wrong thats yo business just keep the bible out of it.
And if she has its her life. The fact that I can see her making progress is entirely up to her. People dont have to look up to her if they dont want to. I mean she didnt abort those kids like most of yall did and @ least her life is not closed like some of yall who are even afraid to say some of the things u do in secret. Monica keep ya head up & keep looking up you should not have even responded somethings you just slide of your shoulders. Things are gonna work out for you in time & I love your show & you still can sing
dubdub...I know for a fact that we ALL fall *** of the glory of GOD!..We're human beings!...You can walk your teens to church EVERY sunday...but when the hormones hit?...If they're not on the pill or use a condom?...Pregnancy!..believe that!..All the sunday school in the world ain't gonna stop a teen with raging hormones from having ***!..Once AdultHood hits?..It's a cycle!..ya know..LIFE?...The mulitplying thing happens,with or without marriage...sorry.But that's real.And folk still go to church,AND quote scriptures!
@Mel7 Everything you said is the truth, but before anybody can believe it, they must believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God. Moncia and the rest of non-beleivers don't want to hear anything the bible has to say when its pertaining to them and their flaws, but they will use bible scripture to whip another man for his sins. SMH bunch of hypocrits.
That person needs to realize nobody's perfect. Marriage starts in the heart first. Everybody who has a piece of paper saying their married don't really love or know enough about eachother and IMO, those are the type of people who don't understand the essence of marriage and don't take it seriously. It's nothing to jump into.
However, I don't understand people who do love and are committed to eachother to not get married. If you're not willing to confirm your marriage in front of others and on paper then you may not be as committed as you thought. Cuz trust, if you truly love someone and want
I WASEN'T GOING TO SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THIS STREAM . BUT THE HOLYROLLERS GET ON MY NERVES THERE IS NO WHERE IN THE BIBLE THAT SAYS U HAVE TO HAVE A *** TO BIND TWO PEOPLE . FUTHERMORE HOLYROLLERS U AREN'S WITHOUT SIN IF U WERE U WOULDN'T BE HERE .STOP MINDING OTHER PEOPLE BUSINESS MIND YOUR OWN HOME . MINISTERS IN THE CHURCH ARE THE BIG SINNERS FOR CARRYING ON THIS MESS ALWAYS TRYING TO CONTROL WHEN THEY ARE PIMPING THE PEOPLE , SLEEPING WITH WHOEVER THEY WANT IN THE CONGREGATION. GET A ***!KIN LIFE OF YOUR OWN . SOME FOOL ON HERE SAYS DON'T QUOTE JESUS NAME *** U AREN'T GOD
You're nt suppose 2 condemn any1. Which is y I simply say I do not agree w/ more than half of the blk comm. for havin soo many kids out of wedlock. So I decided to break the cycle, & get married to build a strong foundation for any kids my husband & I will bring into this world. U know, there's nothing wrong w/ THAT either. BIG common misconception, but I promise you, marriage does not automatically = unhappiness. Cuz we are 100% truly happy.
@ allahuakbar.... Oh please! Anything to make excuses for how our men have failed our community huh? Whatever!
WOMEN ARE NOT (supposed 2 be) THE MEN OF THEIR HOUSEHOLDS. THAT IS NOT THE WAY GOD INTENDED IT TO BE. THE MEN ARE SUPPOSED TO BE THE PASTORS AND THE HEADS OF THEIR HOUSEHOLDS, NOT THE WOMEN!
The husband is the head... the wife is the "manager" of the house. So, if God ordained that the husband as the head of the woman and the woman the "manager" of the household, then that means that men have a responsibility to the women and children, correct?
@ allahuakbar...
U SAID, "look at the condition of the woman and you would see the condition of our communities"... WELL IF THE MEN AREN'T DOING THE JOBS THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO, IT'S OBVIOUSLY GOING TO EFFECT THE CONDITION OF THE WOMEN. And then we're back at square one!
Basically, men need to get it together... it's the women holding everything down, but is it supposed to be this way? NO! IT'S NOT!
BabyGirlMrs,
sister, where do you decipher that I said a woman is supposed to lead from my comments? Where do you get from my comments that I'm placing the lion's share of the blame on Black women? Where in my comments do I absolve men of any blame? Where in my comments did I tell a LIE? I'm a defender of the Black woman and I'm simply stating FACTS!
BabyGirlMrs,
To answer your question sister;Yes, men have a responsibility to the women and children of their lives. Where do I in my comments say that men are not to blame. Women are our first teacher, this is a fact in all of nature. In the context of the point I was trying to make I referenced the Willie Lynch Letter and the definitions of the words inside of it.
I noted the emphasis placed on the Black woman who if you control her, which over 90% of Black women are negotiable and content. Then you control us all since she initially teaches us all.
he's right in a way but so is she. He's right in terms of these type of relationships stereotyping the black American woman as one that is easily accesable, without proper boundaries: she'll sleep with you, have your kids, take care of them, work three jobs and you don't even need to put a ring on her finger. You can go out and party and have more kids as a black man, you will be appreciated for it in your "hood". That's just wrong. That type of stereotype *** be promoted. She's right in terms oof that poster not having the right to talk about her life and grouping her with other people.
It's a good thing I don't believe in the bible, it's a book to control people, I agree with Monica about we all are different? it seems like the only people who judge are those that are followers and can't make it on there own because they're living under other peoples laws, I live under my own law....don't follow any religion. What the hell is marriage anyway? I don't believe in that nonsense, I own no human being and no human being owns me, I do what I choose to do in this life I lead, so therefore marriage is not for everyone, you people are so brainwashed it's pathetic.
Jesus is a fictional character, used as the vehicle for telling stories. With his 12 (Zodiacal) apostles, he is a reworking of older Hellenistic hero-sun god figures and the Persian Mithras, grafted onto the already-established Jewish god Yahweh. His entire life story is either glossed over or fabricated, like his "birth" day which all biblical scholars agree was imposed upon the winter solstice to compete with popular Sol Invictus celebrations throughout the Roman Empire..
How is one to live a moral and compassionate existence when one is fully aware of the blood, the horror inherent in life, when one finds darkness not only in one's culture but within oneself? If there is a stage at which an individual life becomes truly adult, it must be when one grasps the irony in its unfolding and accepts responsibility for a life lived in the midst of such paradox. One must live in the middle of contradiction, because if all contradiction were eliminated at once life would collapse. There are simply no answers to some of the great pressing questions. You continue to live them out, making your life a worthy expression of leaning into the light.
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negotiable: Easy or possible to negotiate or be negotiated, negotiable demands; a negotiable road.
This honestly speaking is the effect that Willie Lynch has on our Black women, who in turn perpetuate the cycle for whitey. What other group of women suffers from single motherhood like the Black woman or will let any man hop on her of any race like the Black woman. Not bashing just speaking TRUTH. She has become negotiable. I'm speaking in the context of the Willie Lynch Letter. Read it and then comment back to me. Then you will understand my position better. Peace sister!
TheBrokenSilence
Flag post It was probably some *** who has no room to talk! I can't see a straight man caring about that ish. On the other hand Month is full of it. Like her Tiny and the other baby mamas wouldn't want a ring on it. Yeah right! Look at B, *** aint give dude no kids and still got the ring. Take lessons.
and you actually believe that they are married? lol, he's only using the ***.
"One man can't serve two masters, he must serve one, and hate the other."~ Jesus
So all the so called lovers of Jesus read that quote from him and decide who you are going to follow. Because Jesus, the preacher of freedom,justice, and equality didn't condone hypocrisy! Don't beat yourself up about it, everyone who lacks knowledge makes mistakes. The thing is to not keep doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. My people this is defined as INSANITY!
I personally don't believe in playing house. Thats just not my forte. I'd rather have the real thing than to play myself *** ya dig. What if old boy die? His mama and everybody else gone get theirs before monica does. She cutting herself ***. She keep saying "celebrities". Like that mean just because you have a little dough and some status that makes you immune to marriage. I'm not perfect but i'm not stupid. I'm not about to let a man make a fool out of me, keep having his babies, playing house and being a good little WIFEY ( NOTICE i DIDN'T SAY WIFE).
Marriage is a wonderful union bet 2 ppl who choose 2 put 1 another b4 themselves. That being said 80% of all marriages end in divorce, & it *** b used as a way 2 keep a man or a woman! If women choose 2 have children out of wed lock, that is their choice, however 1 must choose the mother or father of the children carefully B4 making such a decision! Bottom line if all women waited 2 get married 2 have children a lot of ppl wouldn't b here!
If ole boy is cheating on her than thats on monica. If monica is okay with being dudes "bottom ***", so be it.Some women like saying "at least he come back home to me" She has all those celebrity friends that can have her back should she choose to leave him. It's up to monica to be strong and leave her man if he is dogging her out and having all kids with other chicks out the woodworks. But we as black women need to start making men accountable for their actions and making them step up to the plate and put a ring on it.
Monica, for the record, Halle Berry was married two times, and so you should never let her name come out of your mouth as an example for how you are living.
You have never been married, and you should not be bringing cameras into that whatever you want to call it with that fake azz guy who don't really give a *** about you, because if he did he would have married you.
You try to make yourself think that it is you who doesn't want to marry, that is BS and you and I know very well. But keep fooling yourself into believing your lie, cause you have to live with it! DON'T USE HALLE'S NAME.
All of you "bashing" Christians and their beliefs/views seriously lack sense.
OBVIOUSLY EVERYONE sins .. no one is saying they're perfect.
AND the "all of you talkin' bout Monica know y'all had children out of wedlock or *** before marriage" talks need to end.. y'all repeat the same thing. Yeah it's wrong but doing something ONCE and not doing it again because you know it's wrong is one thing .. Monica is quoting bible verses while still living the "sinful life" .. that's being a hypocrite. She's not attempting to change her lifestyle either ..
Who the hell this man think he is? ; What he mean a man buys you a gucci purse and you spread your legs *Tiny*! ; Um I LOVE ME some TI, but Tiny was gettin' money way before TI came along. ; When they first hooked up she actually had more money than him. ; And Monica is that girl to be. So he need to stop being a *** hater. ; Lls
I thought you were suppose to STAY married until Death did you part?...What ever happened to that?...If you're marrying over and over you might as well be single....What is a person learning from marrying like it's a sport?..If the marriage was based on the vows...what WASN'T covered to warrant Divorce?...Everybody's pointing fingers of explainations as to WHY they can call judgement on someone else. Look at your life from start to NOW... Can you say you've been perfect the whole time?..If not?...Live and let live!
I think Monica is one of the classier celebs. Even tho she's not married 2 her kids father, u never see her in the middle of some scandalous mess. No one is without faults and ppl who live in glass houses *** throw stones. As far as the nut posting 50 comments talkin bout she's no Halle, that's like comparing apples & oranges
I know of Charles. He is a WELL KNOWN blogger! I like many of his views. He has a great point, but my opinion is this. The black family has been BROKEN for a while now. Many don't respect the bible and what it stands for. Honesty, dignity, respect, love, helping your fellow man. Men go around spread their seeds ALL OVER, etc, etc. I myself know that I always try to do the right thing and try to preach to others to do better and live right as well. At least I know, when I go to My grave, I lived right. I can't speak on the next man nor woman! I can go on and on because I am passionate about thi
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She chose to be an entertainer and be in the spotlight. Guess what, that light that allows us to see you shine also shows us your flaws. Money doesn't stop you from being a hoodrat. This wouldn't be a problem if we (black people) were in a better position. The reality is most of us come from broken homes. Our hearts sink when other people tell stories about their fathers that we never got to experience. Black men are considered less intelligent, more violent, lazy, and irresponsible by most of America. Our "Urban" culture of baby's moms, and rims before rent, casual clothes with formal prices, swagger and attitude, and ***-word as a term of endearment only fortify those beliefs. We are better than that. We must stop justifying our bad habits. Of course you can just label me as a hater and continue being ignorant.
As for as THIS woman is concerned, who cares? As far as non-Christians talking *** about Christians, it's like a dropout criticizing a surgeon's work. How can you judge something you know nothing about and don't even have the guts to try? If you knew anything about Christianity you'd know it's not designed for humans to judge other humans. In fact, Jesus' own words were "Who are you to judge another's servant? YOU CANT JUDGE WHEN YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW THE RULES. Jesus even said that no one was perfect and christians will not be perfect. Don't try to excuse your faults by pointing out someone el
I LOVE MONICA. NONE OF US ARE PERFECT, BUT THE OTHER PERSON IS RIGHT. NOT FOR HOW HE PUT HER AND THE OTHER LADIES ON BLAST, BUT IN WHAT HE IS SAYING ABOUT SIN. ONE OF THE TEN COMMANDMENTS IS THOU SHALL NOT FORNICATE. FORNICATION IS A SIN. MOST OF OUR FAMILIES ARE BUILT OUT OF WEDLOCK, AND IT DOESN'T MAKE IT RIGHT CAUSE HALLE AND MADONNA ARE DOING IT. FORNICATION IS A SIN. GOD GIVES US GRACE, SO THAT WE HAVE ROOM FOR INPROVEMENT. LIVE YOUR LIFE LADY, CHANGE WHAT YOU KNOW ISN'T RIGHT.
Evidently this is a decision that they have chosen for THEIR lives.Yes his sons should look up to him being a Leader they can follow.Can it be done without marrying their mother...Yes!..He can still be a GOOD positive force in their lives WITHOUT marrying their Mother.Marriage will be good for THEM, not the children...the children are already here!..You'll hear first and foremost.."it is NOT something to enter into lightly"...which means don't Play with GOD!..But people do it tho.Get married and have adulterous *** and all kinna mess.But as long as he married his baby momma tho right?..smh.
For those who are saying Jesus is a fictional chararacter there are thousands of people who have testimonies to the power of prayer and Lord including his judgements. Just this morning I was late for work, while in the taxi, I prayed and wouldn't you know it, I made it in recordbreaking time and the driver knocked off a portion of the fare (a first) this is just one of millions of testimonies for God. You are brainwashed into not believing. Probably even lying like you don't believe just to impress people. These thirsty frauds never cease to amaze me. People have evidence of God.
There are some people who know that they were raised to believe in God and are "lying" like they don't for brownie points. Not suprised because all they do is LIE. JUST TO IMPRESS, JUST TO GET A BUCK, JUST TO FIT IN, Just to cover their azz. For those who TRULY don't beleive, speak with some that do and ask for evidence. I guarantee they will have testimonies that will change your mind. Develope a relationship with God and you'll have some testimonies of your own to share.
I like Monica, she's nice, pretty and has a good heart, but she's NO ROLE MODEL and never has been. Come on she has a history of dating hardcore thugs.
Monica you cannot compare yourself to Halle or Madonna because all they wanted out of a relationship is kids, they have a whole lot of money at stake and if I'm not mistaken have both been married before.
You have kids out of marriage and dating drug dealers does not make you a bad person, BUT IT DOES STOP YOU FROM BEING A ROLE MODEL. The only females who would find you to be a role model would be HOODRATS & BABYMAMAS.
Still love you!
well i dont care what anyone have to say about monica because she clearly said she made mistakes and learn from it, she quote the bilble because it helps her to progess in life..and know you got some dude judging her,he dont know what she been through or how she felt at that time to do what she did. like everyone knows no ones perfect and marriage isnt for everyone, so you have to look at urself 1st before you can judge someone else.
I expect dumb azz comments like, "Marriage is just a piece of paper." Dummies! Do some research and you'll see that it's more than that. Black people are so anti-marriage. That's why we are in the pedicament we're in now with out of wedlock babies, poverty, incarceration, etc. Wake up!
Oh, and to the "stop judging crowd" *** up. No one is judging, just stating facts.
@spraggaswifey- I hope you read the verse in the Bible that said we all fall ***... and that Jesus was the only one who had no sin.. @ spraggaswifey-- is no better than monica ------------------------------------------
Yuh are absolutely right...I'm an imperfect human just like Monica is....But I'm not going around quoting Bible scriptures and saying how beneficial it is to follow Jesus Christ and willifully practicing sin.....She's being selective in what parts of the Bible she follows and that's hypocritical....The Bible clearly states that FORNICATION is wrong....
How many women right now crying becoz the man they had a baby for doesn't do ANYTHING for the child?! How many of them got pregnant, the dude left them, got a WHITE woman pregnant, and MARRIED with the WHITE woman?..At least he's there, men marry who they WANNA marry.Trust and believe..A woman knows her consequences before she haves *** with that man! We Women control our OWN bodies...If you want marriage first?..Demand it!..Don't have the baby THEN look for marriage!..That was YOUR call,now you have to wait until HE'S ready, or move on!..That's how it is when you play the game like that.
This world is so very judgemental. Everyone who has judgement to pass should stop and analYze their own wretched messes some might call lives. Let he who be without sin cast the first stone.. Funny I see nary a rock flung, including from myself. At least Monica is not on public assistance, and she can properly provide for her family...
Lol@ some people cause they think all people should believe in what they feel is true. I wasn't raised in a traditional household,where i was to beileve in christanity like other balck people. I believe in a higher power, but i will no believe in the bible. It is it has been rewritten some many times, you don't know what to beileve out of it. Please read a scriputre in your bible that says a paper is a vaildation of love?
@strongvirgo
You are angry for all the wrong reasons your information is just so inaccurate and plain ole wrong please go do some homework and also what ghetto hood you come from with no grocery stores. There are grocery stores and supermarkets in NYC. A bodega on every other corner Pathmark CTown Western Beef.. the list goes on and on.... Your welfare knowledge is wrong to.. A family of four gets more than a family of three. Welfare dont care who the family members are and why should they thats your job Boo Boo
That is soo true about Monica hypocrites also Monique.They always try to make themselves look good when they get in church and saints.Then they get around celebrities and start cursing and drinking and don't forget sleeping around.But hey that them and not me they know the diff between right and wrong.
See the thing is, people done put these *** up on a pedestal becuz they are in the media .. ..but really these the same *** we see around the hood .. .do what them *** do .... in relationships wit the local dope man , having his babies out of wedlock ...all while he in and out of jail and cheating .. . .so who's really shocked that this is going on . .just cuz they got a camera in their faces dont make them role models . .. . .
STRONGVIRGO is young and is learning. "A little knowledge is a dangerous thing" would apply to this person. "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt" should be something for them to think about. Of course they are going to get on here and type a "comeback" in all caps making false assumptions about me but this is what I would expect from them.
@ srrongvirgo
You are a youngster. Stay out of grown folks conversation. And YOU are NOT from the burbs you cant even spell it. I know what I am talking about when it comes to welfare I was on it myself. Got off and became a worker then supervisor so I think I know alot more about it than you do. You sound sick go take ur medicine Boo-Boo
No one should tell anyone what they should be doing unless they have never made a mistake, and since God is the only perfect being we should be looking to Him for guidance, not Monica...I do believe in marriage, but I have also had premarrital *** so I cant belittle anyone in that respect. Im glad God is merciful...
No offense to anyone in particular but, can we please try to write using the rules of English?
It be all hard *** s#i+ 2 reed wen u tipe an spel lyk dis. If this is how you actually speak then I am sorry but go to SCHOOL!
Yes I am a hater. I hate ignorance and more than that, I hate people who can't speak ONE language correctly. Ebonics is the biggest insult since the ***-word.
@ allahuakbar... Whatever man! Keep that ol' whitey against the black ppl, using black women bullsh*t... people (BLACK MEN) need to take responsibility for their own sh*t and stop blaming it on others (white people). When are black men gonna wake the hell up and do what's within their grasp to do for their families? They are able to go to school, become educated, get a job, etc.... right? So, why is it that they can't get sh*t right? Oh, because they are still held down by "whitey"? Come on now... if ur so big on uplifting the sistas or whatever u wanna call it... why not speak the truth
@ allahuakbar... about how the MEN in our community aren't doin what's necessary to keep the families and the sistas strong???
Oh that's right, cause "whitey" is controlling the sistas and the brothas (even though God ordained them the head of the household) follow us. Right? LOL... this sh*t is comical!
Man, Whatever!
There is not alot of sisters out here who has such a humbling uplifting spirit and to go on this one flaw that apparently aint a valid 1 because most married couples are on MTO everyday! I have never heard any of Monica and Rockos business in the street and they seem to have realy good intentions! But after being on this site so much and reading people blogs I have come to this conclusion: Yall really have it out for the black population.. I mean Dman the whole world is trynna kill the good and exploit the bad I wanna kill the Tv throw the radio in the bath tub and give the computer a virus
O Lord, Monica God is on your side. This guy is very judgemental whoever wrote about this. I mean its said over & over she is a hood rat, she's into gangsters, gucci shoes whatever. We all have to live each day by the choices that we make. Sin is sin Monica did not say that she is immuned from it. There are those of us who hide to practice our filth. I can clearly remember her saying she is getting older & wants to be a better person. Come on now its hard because the same measure you judge some1 it will come back to you be careful people honestly you make celebrities & gossip cloud you
@BabyGirlMrs
Modern hip hop culture tells us we need to be ballers and have swagga. If someone crosses us we are supposed to knock them out or *** them. Women are for *** and raising our kids. We are good fathers when we pay child support. We are all going to be athletes or entertainers. If not we can sell drugs to get rich. Intelligence is overrated. We have to keep it real and not snitch and always represent. This is what our "urban" culture tells us. Its easier to get on craigslist and buy a $1500 Suburban, $500 rims, $300 system and look like a baller than it is to read a book and actually better themselves. It seems the futility of this lifestyle is only seen in retrospect.
First of all, Toya isn't with Wayne so he can have however many babies he wants. But, oke boy is trippin. God didn't send Jesus to help the perfect, He sent him to help the sinners. We all have to grow somewhere. No one is perfect. Stop passing judgement and deal with your own issues. Dude ur gossipping on a blog. No different from being an unwed mother!!! Sin is sin.
MTO this post is thought provoking. Its like Tupac said thats just the way it is, things will never be the same. Marriage is honorable above all things yes, however every sexual encounter we have defiles us 1corintians 6 its like a pryamid. How many times some of yall were in a relationship with someone, yet you kept dreaming about someone else. Singers sing about ***, movie stars with no integrity thank God for their careers to & their lives are not about him. Monica is only human & let her quote she has a strong Christian family & has been through storms & I said earlier she is trying
FOR REAL. I'VE BEEN SAYING THE SAME *** FOR YEARS NOW WUSSUP WITH ALL THESE BLACK GHETTO CHICKEN BABY MAMA HOODRANT HO*ES HAVING ALL THESE KIDS OUT OF WEDLOCK AND LETTING THEM LOOSE TO GO BE A BURDEN AND TERRORIZE SOCIETY-GANGBANGN THUGGIN SLANGN DOPE JAILBIRD FUTURE HOODRAT BABY MAMAS. BLACK GHETTO HO*ES AINT GOT NO MORALS AND GOALS IN LIFE - ALL BLACK WOMEN ASPIRE TO BE IN LIFE IS TO BE SOMEBODY BABY MAMA LIVING OFF WELFARE FOODSTAMPS BUY KNOCKOFFS SMOKE WEED DRINK LIQUOR GO CLUBBING. AND YOU WONDER WHY THE BLACK YOUTH IS SO LOST. YOU NEGROS ARE STILL SLAVES UNDER YOUR OWN TERMS.
Monica do you boo, it dont matter rather you do good or bad people will talk. You only have one person to answer to and thats GOD himself. Let He without SIN cast the first stone we all SIN and SIN is SIN. Im so greatful GOD is not like people if he was we would all be in HELL right now. So for all you Judgemental people you dont like her or her show dont watch it. And remember if you dont like someones life style thats your own Opinion we have only one person to answer to and thats GOD. Let Monica do MOnica and you all do you.We all Sin and Your not perfect.Change is a process.!!!!!!!!
BabyGirlMrs,
Trying to play to the emotional side of Black women will not address the issues at hand and it's proper context. Have you answered any of my questions,NO. i've answered yours sister. Name one thing I stated in any of my comments that was a LIE. Where do you keep getting where the Black man is not at fault for some of the problems in our community. This thread is about a Black female and her issues. Trying to duck responsibilty or act like a helpless victim is played out and Black women need to take some of the responsiblity as well for their actions.
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You ever wonder how in a society where noone can deny is controlled and ruled by the white man has given the Black women luxurys and advantages that the Black man simply doesn't have access too. You are obviously not reading my posts or simply don't understand them because I'm essentially talking about the Willie Lynch Letter as it relates to Black women today and you are trying to twist and turn my words into absolving Black men of any blame. What are the six cardinal principles of Willie Lynch: I'm going to teach for a second sister continued........
Cardinal: of foremost importance, paramount. A cardinal rule; cardinal sins
principles: basic truth, law, or assumption, rule or standard, especially of good behavior. A man of principle. Policy or mode of action.
The six cardinal principles of Willie Lynch are: containment, breaking, tying,female/young,language,and cross breeding! look up the definition of these words which i can do for you too and tell me all of these aren't in place today for our community and the Teacher of us all. THE BLACK WOMAN!!!
I agree with both sides to start off.. Just because you have a child with somebody doesn't mean that this is the person that is going to man up and be what he needs to be, parenting and marriage comes with no guide books.. Let go and let God lead you through prey and keep doing you, My parents stayed together for 16 yrs and my mother was the sole provider and punching bag.. You have to love god before you can have a wife , child and even love you self.. If its ment to be gow will work on him, All these people going on t.v promoting single parent hood is Sad, but you still read the bible
HEY! EVERYBODY I GOT AN IDEAL!!! How about living your own *** life and stop worrying about what everybody else is doing! Why the Fu@*** would you even care how Monica is running her life, what about your life, you bills, your kids, your wife or husband, your family, YOUR PROBLEMS!! And since that idiot mention the bible, when GOD calls you home for judgment day, I'm sure GOD won't be judging him on anything Monica did in her life. LIVE YOUR OWN LIFE PEOPLE!!
We can encourage each other by living the way God want 'me' to even with being imperfect. Society has made it seem God's way is impossible. How many in our society can say, I married 1st, had children and is raising a family together?! Only a small few. Not enough to make our children, family and friends think it's a fulfilling choice.
LETS KEEP IT REAL...THESE STARS ARE AS REAL AS YOU AND ME...SO WHO ARE WE TO JUDGE, DOES THIS TWITTERER THINK THAT BEING JUDGEMENTAL IS OF GOD??? MONICAS BOYS ARE IN GOOD HEALTH AND WELL TAKEN CARE OF BY A MOTHER THAT LOVES THEM MORE THAN LIFE...WHEN SHE IS STANDING AT THOSE PEARLY GATES AND WAITING FOR HER ENTRY INTO HEAVEN SHE WILL HAVE HER OWN STORY TO TELL AS WE ALL WILL...THE WAY MO LIVES IS HER BUSINESS AND THATS ALL I HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THAT
I think everyone is arguing over a few misinterpretations.
Stars were meant to be looked at, this is what she signed up for.
It is definitely possible for ONE parent to raise a successful person.
It is definitely better for a person to be raised by TWO loving people.
The perpetual failure that we as blacks seem to be in WAS orchestrated by fearful people centuries ago.
we are the only ones who can break this cycle by being better than them, IN EVERYTHING WE DO.
Finally, religion is like wiping your ***. Its very personal and you do it YOUR OWN WAY.
NEWS FLASH..... THIS JUST IN; THE DEVIL KNOWS THE BIBLE ALSO. IF IM NOT MISTAKEN THE BIBLE SAYS THAT GOD REIGNS ON THE JUST AS WELL AS THE UNJUST, AND FURTHERMORE JUDGING IS ALSO A SIN. YOU CAN INTERPET THE BIBLE HOWEVER YOU SEE FIT BECAUSE GODS THOUGHT ARE NOT OUR THOUGHTS AND HE HONORS THE HEART. AS FAR AS COMPARING HER TO TINY, TOYA, AND KC. THATS JUST ***. MONICA HAS BEEN REAL SINE SHE CAME OUT UNLIKE BRANDY AND ETC. GET OFF OF HER JUST LIKE PLIES SAID THEY AINT TRYINH TO PLEASE US THEY TRYING TO TAKE CARE OF THEMSELVES SO GET OVER IT PLEASE. HE WITHOUT SIN CAST THE FIRST STONE.....
all the cliches about "the church is a hospital" and "judge not" is something the institutional church made up to keep sinful people in their pews and not call out bad behavior, so they can keep getting their money, and so their pastor can stay in his Rolls Royce and taking his private jet to go see his mistresses discreetly.
FOR REAL. I'VE BEEN SAYING THE SAME SH*IT FOR YEARS NOW WUSSUP WITH ALL THESE BLACK GHETTO CHICKEN BABY MAMA HOODRANT HO*ES HAVING ALL THESE KIDS OUT OF WEDLOCK AND LETTING THEM LOOSE TO GO BE A BURDEN AND TERRORIZE SOCIETY-GANGBANGN THUGGIN SLANGN DOPE JAILBIRD FUTURE HOODRAT BABY MAMAS. BLACK GHETTO HO*ES AINT GOT NO MORALS AND GOALS IN LIFE - ALL BLACK WOMEN ASPIRE TO BE IN LIFE IS TO BE SOMEBODY BABY MAMA LIVING OFF WELFARE FOODSTAMPS BUY KNOCKOFFS SMOKE WEED DRINK LIQUOR GO CLUBBING. AND YOU WONDER WHY THE BLACK YOUTH IS SO LOST. YOU NEGROS ARE STILL SLAVES UNDER YOUR OWN TERMS.
I think my spiritual journey is personal.. If Monica wants to qoute the bible that's her choice....Do I agree with some of the stuff that gets glamourized on TV and on these blogs No! She's a single mother who is capable of taking care of her children and she's appears to be a good mother. As far as marriage...you can look right her on this blog and all the rest even the white ones...and read the FOOLISHNESS BLACK! Men Come Through With In these so called lovely marriages!..Monica doesnt deserve this type of disrespect.
Everybody just LOVES to pick and choose which parts of the Bible they'll follow...
1.*** 2.Unwed Parents 3.Thieves 4.Adulters 5.Murders 6.Pedophiles and so on, and so on!
Blame BET for putting this foolishness on TV. How come we can't see a positive BLACK MAN being the king of his home, like he should be. The black woman is always the captain of the home on TV, which subconsciously entitles young black girls and belittles young black males.
Rev Run is holding it down on freaking MTV, WTF???
She made some good points.... However regardless of you feel about Monica and her personal life, wed lock is a huge problem in the black community. Lets be honest, the black family has digressed and the results are right here in front of us. We should all hold women and men accountable for this. I mean, look at Lil Wayne......Shucks, 50 cents has a song called "have a baby by me" Some people praise these stars.......We are doomed if this continues......Sorry Monica, your just a visible person, so you get to be the scapegoat....
@husler, I DONT KNOW WHICH GHETTO SCHOOLED U, BUT THE LAST TIME I CHECKED ALL CHICKS WERE DOING BETTER AND HITTING UP CELEBERTIES AND BEING THEIR NEW ARM CANDY!!! SO NO CHICKS ARE NOT INSPIRED TO BE "BABY MAMA'S" AND ANOTHER THING ITS ALOT OF MALES INVESTING MORE INTO CONDOM SO THEY WONT BE ANOTHER "BABY DADDY"
First of all ALOT of rich women and men do not get married because it turns they're relationships about love into a money arrangement. Monica is smart and knows that God forgives and I respect her for teaching others not to follow her path but to follow god. Charles is *** so does that mean he can't love god... No. Monicas point was that none of us are without sin. So who are we to judge
It seems that you people think that only *** people will burn in hell.
I've got news for all of you
Fornicators - people who have *** outside of marriage - well burn alongside them just as well.
So you all keep on hooking up and breeding and opening you all legs
Every single one of you who do this will split hell right open! God doesn't give passes!
I love me some Monica, but I think the person that put this out there has it twisted. I've never seen or heard of her using scripture to justify her relationship...The scriptures were moreso for her (personally). We all have that. As far as the relationship goes, whether she's married or not, doesn't determine the type of person she is...***, yall so judgemental!!! Mind yo business!! follow me on twitter/sherrelle1
iAmandaPandaBear ... I agree with you husla i drive past the welfare office everyday in my range rover on my way to work and see black women lined up@7am to get in! Shameful and sad --- Stop your lyin. #1 you don't have no range rover. #2 I've never heard of a welfare office line being outside. So girl hush. LOL.
Okay of were gonna quote the bible and say that's this guy who wrote this is right lets not look at just the single baby mamas let looks at all the people that have had *** ( baby or no baby) out of marriage hopefully that guys a virgin or maybe he is selectively Reading the bible aswell no one perfect the only perfect human being was Jesus Christ the key is learning from your mistakes a repenting the lord gives us paths to take and sometimes we take the wrong one but he is that wonderful that he loves us and forgives us if we repent so take that who ever wrote this about monica
The institution of marriage was ordained by God when he made woman from the rib of adam. There is a standard for marriage, but people want to do what they want to do and not do what God say do. Until you have walked in someone's shoes, don't judge or you will be judged.
However, it's not up to the woman to make a commitment to the man when she has a child for a man, it's up to the man to commit to the woman since she has a child from him. It is the seed of man that grows and multiple, not the woman's seed. The woman can't birth a child without the man.
