: MediaTakeOut.com received the following report, from an insider with what they claim is FIRST HAND KNOWLEDGE of what went down that fateful night:
Hello MTO I am a faithful reader .. It's so sad that I witnessed one of your stories on Christmas eve and its being told all wrong. 8 goons raping a girl by the name of Cyan Brown, which is FALSE . While standing waiting for the bus ..We’re not sure WHAT to think anymore. But we watch enough Lifetime and Miss Marple to have figured out that SOMETHING didn't seem right about how the story was being told!!!Thomas "BlackBox" Winston Inspiring rapper out of Queens Bridge Projects was bumped by 1 of 2 men that Cyan Brown had brought from another area, I was told they were crips.
Thomas then began arguing wit the boys. That's when 8 goons beat up the 2 boys and chased them .. Cyan told Thomas to suck her d*** and he threw liquor on her. That's when she pulled out a knife and stabbed him in the chest, as he dropped the 8 friends chased Cyan down the train station trying to catch her.
As his cousin watched him drop and lose his life on X-mas eve. I Just want to be heard. The family doesn't appreciate what is being told through the media, just because of his criminal record of narcotics.
Please help MTO this is a big problem in our society and Cyan does not deserve to get away. No sexual harassment was performed just an argument gone wrong.
Thanks And My Condolensces to the Greenspan , Rivers, & Rodriguez family
Thanks MTO .. Please Post This Story Right!!
I said yesterday that whether it was self defense or not, she could still be charged. See, the thing is, when someone hears the word "rape" they automatically assume the parties accused are guilty.
I've even caught myself doing that a time or two.
But....it's too early to assume guilt or innocence on the part of the accused, so I'll leave it at that.
btw why wasn't this the top story?
i don't believe this family... criminals family members always try to make them look good when they do unthinkable stuff...I believe whatever the police says never would i believe a criminal or their family...If that was the case all criminals would be innocent cuz their family sure know how to make them look good...I'm with the Police all day & everyday>>>
well its possible! no one knows the truth, dis chick needs to step up and tell the truth why did she ran away if she was innocent,now the feds are searchin for her, she's not gonna get away with it.. if they really tried to rape her then she did a good job. If not,then she has no right to kill someone like that The person who dies has a family too,its *** to lose someone like that
Some of you guys are wrong, going off of the way the person told the story this is no longer self defense, in order to be self defense she had to have used the amount of force neccesary to fend off the attacker(liquor pourer), in this case stabbing him was ridiculous amount of force, and this *** deserves to go to hell...if thats the way it happened of course
Why not tell this to the daily news or ny post? I think person knows that its all lies. I used to use that station to commute to the manhattan everyday, and I could probably count the number times I was NOT harassed on one hand. Rediculous!
These guys hang out in front of that pizza shop and inside of the train station and they know how to pick their victims. They know who to harass and they know who not to f*ck with. They are always there 24/7 because they have nothing else better to do. When I used to leave for work, I would see them...on my way back home, they would still be there.Smh...
Nope. I don't believe it. First of all, he had more than a narcotics record. The Post got that wrong. He also had been charged in the past with attempted murder.
Don't come in here and try to make him an angel. Where did the details about pulls her off the train get to the media? Cyan didn't tell that. Some witness must have reported it.
@YeahBabe: sometimes females do say "suck my ***" so thats not really new. Im not surprised by it. Yall fail to realize there are some chicks out there that will stab someone just because... just because shes a female doesnt mean we should overlook that. If i was about to get raped and i stabbed him then yea im gonna ***' run but im going to the *** police... thats why i think the first story is fishy because i dont understand why shes hiding from the police... shes guilty about something. @Tae228: only one witness came out on the other story and he said he saw 7 or 8 goons chasing her.
millionaire 1982 said: THAT'S RIGHT, YOU GO GIRL YOU KILL THAT BLACK MAN. HE HAD IT COMING, HE HAD IT COMING. WHEN WILL PEOPLE LEARN TO LEAVE BLACK MEN ALONE. THEY ARE NOTHING BUT TROUBLE. BLACK MEN ARE THE WORST PERIOD. I FEEL SORRY FOR ANYONE WANTING TO BE WITH A BLACK MAN BECAUSE THEY HAVE LOW SELF ESTEEM AND THEY HATE THEMSELVES.
lol..If you are a black woman i feel sorry for you. example of the pot calling the kettle black (no pun intended). you're sick please seek help.
MTO, you've got to be kidding with this don't know what to think anymore ***! You are NOT a news organization. You are a on-line scandal rag that prints nothing but gossip & rumors. You are the ***-end joke of real news organizations. That's the only reason I read this load you put out everyday, because I sometimes need a break from the real news. You are who you are.....get use to it.
I don't believe this *** ONLY and ONLY because this "family member/friend" decided to contact MTO (why?) Every other fam member is contacting the NY Daily News... wtf ever
@ dabossbia100 U aint lying, now his cousins are hollerin he was gettin his life together so he could get his daughter back smh Just sad all around
Two sides to a story than you have the truth. Why did she have a knife? And why did she not come forth? It is pretty scary to hear that 8 guys try to gang rape a female minding her own business. For the innocent bystander at the bus stop telling this version, you seem to know the guy that got stabbed so how true is your version and why are you telling this on a blog and not the police? Will you go and testify at a court?
LIKE I ALWAYS SAID THERE IS 3 SIDES TO EVERY STORY HER SIDE THERE SIDE AND THE THRUTH. THATS' SO MESSED UP! BUT IT AINT NOTHING SURPRISING ABOUT THAT NEW-YORKERS ARE KNOWN FOR SLASHING PEOPLE FACES AND STABBING PEOPLE WITH KNIEVES AND BOX-CUTTER-RAZOR-BLADES DAM NEAR EVERY OTHER MAN OR WOMAN FROM NEW-YORK GOT A CUT ON THERE FACES.
Just like I thought
Broad day light 8 grown *** men chasing a female to rape her? Never made sense! She never turns herself in, no one ever stopped to help? made me question where did they ever get the *** story she was being raped if no one ever stepped foreword. If this is in fact the truth -some hot as.s little girl running wild with gang members she need to pay for what she did, stand up take her punishment like a man sense she wanna tell niccas to suck her ***!!!! I HATE little grown as.s bit.c.hes
Honestly, old boy tryin to tell his story but jus made more impliement that the girl was still assualted ***! *** how pour alcohol or throw alochol on me for real *** gone go down. How cops see it is that she must carry a self defense pepper spray dont always work believe me I kno, I had to pull a blade on a *** be4. listen 7 or 8 dudes on one chic cops see atempted rape or atempted murder point blank dudes should have called the cops but naw dey did an ego thing and chased her ***. They da dummy for dat..*** be real if u was in dat same perdictument wha would u do??
me and my babydaddy got jumped by 6 *** ova ***...i was fightin 2 and he fought 4 point blank *** didnt make no sense but I still whipped *** *** got wha dey deserved in da end cuz his friend wined up killed in bar fight later that day..soo I kno wha she was goin through and hell i would have did the same if they did that to me or my fried..
@MILLIONAIRE 1982, YOU SOUND REAL IGNORANT-WHICH EMANS WITHOUT KNOWLEDGE, THERE ARE MILLIONS OF BLACK MEN IN THIS COUNTRY AS WELL AS THE WORLD, JUST BECAUSE YOU HAD A BAD EXPERIENCE OR HEAR THINGS , DOES NOT MEAN IT IS THE WHOLE NATION OF BLACK MEN. I'M ITALIAN, WHICH IS ANOTHER TYPE OF WHITE..HA! , AND WE DO THING THE SAME THNG ANY OTHER GROUP OR PEOPLE DO, JUST DIFFERENT, I DON'T HEAR YOU SAYING ANYTHING BAOUT US, OR JEFFREY DUMBNER, OR MY PEOPLE(ITALIANS). YOU MUST HAD A BAD EXPERINCE..POOR IDIOT
Still self-defense. I can't wait for the jury and court to see past the emotional maze which is bias on here and throw the book at these 8 goons. I couldn't care less about the so-called rapping goon who lost his life. It's called Karma. These thugs are out there looking for trouble, picking fights, killing, stealing, etc. I wouldn't be surprised if they had gang rape in mind when chasing her. Thank God she had protection on her. I am all for the girl Cyan who protected herself from those who pulled her off the train. The jury can take it from here. End of Case!
The only thing sad about this story is the comments. I would hate to have anybody on here in a jury of my "peers". Talkin all this sh!t and you're probably just as bad if not worst than the people in this story. I love my people but all of you need to wake your @sses up! This is what they want us to do! Kill each other and think it's acceptable.
EXACTLY WHAT I SAID YESTERDAY Especially to those like TexasGlamourGirl talking about leave the girl alone. She killed someone whether or not she is a victim or the committing criminal. But a murder was committed and the police need to take a look at what happened. There is no way in this world a murder was committed and people say just drop it and let the girl be and move on with our lives. Now there MAY POSSIBLY be another side to the story. They need to find her ***, and find out what is going on. Murder should never be taken lightly.
i dont know now.... that first story sounded kinda crazy to me. how can 8 men be raping you and you stab one and get awaY? people think! the girl was probably a lost soul trying to fit in with the streets and got into something where she had to provbe herself in front of the 2 men she were with. innocent 16 year olds dont just waLk around with knifes! she was apart of some street gang! im very poitive about that! AND IF SHE'S SUCH AN INNOCENT VICTIM WHY SHE STILL DIDNT TURN HERSELF IN?? exactly! he was wrong for throwing the drink on her but in a new york hood disrespect is a big thing!
I have yet to hear about this on the news*
and 8 dudes was still chasin her wit intentions of hurtin her??
But deadass I would be tight too if a *** threw liquor in my face *** most *** would be and would probably start swinging (but most wouldnt be stabbing unless they're real hood). Any1 who is smart knows not 2 *** with *** from nyc, especially not hood chicks.
Of course she's not. Its *** near no such thing as rape unless its like child rape. Most rape cases aren't event true. I don't believe none of them. without 100 percent proof. Because too many people are locked up on false accusations because some dumb braawd is mad at the dude or just mad because she a drunk hoe. So she scream rape. Thats why you record everything you do. wether its audio or video or don't do nothing at all with them broads especially some broad that looks like she scheming or a bi-polar one just having *** because she mad at someone.
@millionare1982 ya know i really give up !!!!! real talk i used to be all about the black, pro black, afrocentric whatever!! but when i read *** like this and i know its from a scorn black woman or some bootlickin' *** coon excuse for a black man who thinks he is better than anybody else, you ignorant,dumb ***!! and if its some dummy from another race doin' the *** talkin' you must've got yo *** *** beat by a black man, if not you really are just a pointless waste of space and you need to take a ***' long walk off a *** peer, in layman's terms "kill yourself'!!!
MTO yall be just need to stop telling stories if yall cant get it right and why do yall still keep posting her picture up like wtf she still a minor whether she guilty or not...SMDH @quentinsparks lmao not all lightskin females are crazy you're just effin with the wrong ones shiiiid I ain't crazt atleast
REGARDLESS of what happened the media is racist fux ! they stay portraying us as thugs or criminals:
Criminal past into consideration without all the facts why is a stabbing victim belittled to just a thug but a white women selling her stankin *** *** is a "massage therapist"?
I know yall remember that craigslist killer and the white lady he murked.
peep game:
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Thomas then began arguing wit the boys. That's when 8 goons beat up the 2 boys and chased them... OKAY SO IS IT ME.... BUT HER STORY DONT MAKE SENSE EITHER. THE STATEMENT I COPIED AND PASTED ABOVE MAKE ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE. WHERE IN THE HELL DID THE "8 GOONS" COME FROM. SO THERE WAS THOMAS AND THE 2 BOYS CYRAN BROUGHT. IF MY MATH IS CORRECT THAT WAS ON 3 MEN. WAS THE 8 GOONS WITH THOMAS?? IF SO WHY DIDNT SHE STATE THAT. WAS THE 8 GOONS STANDING WAITING FOR THE BUS AS WELL?? ALL I KNOW IS BEFORE HOMEGIRL TRY TO SEND IN HER STORY TO CLEAR UP ANOTHER STORY SHE SHOULD MAKE SURE HERS MAKES SENSE.
To the person that said the media stays portraying us as thugs..um..nobody does that more than our own people..Face it many are thugs..don't get mad at the media..get mad at the thugs that represent the rest of us wrong..We complain so much about how much white people don't care about us..when we don't even care about ourselves or each other..
That sound bout right... What people don't understand is, the 8 goons they are talking bout are from the same PROJECTS, which mean Thomas is there homie... Cyan and 2 other gangsters were walking through the goons hood or PROJECTS. One of the gangsters with Cyan bumped into Thomas, and an argument got out of control, because Thomas felt disrespected, and the 2 gangsters felt the need to flex their toughness, so Thomas did the project goon call and here comes the 8 goons from the same Hood as Thomas to back him up...
So now the 2 gangsters see that they messed with the wrong one and not some solo rider... So the goons began to stomp the 2 gangsters out, and Cyan didn't appreciate the way her boys were getting busted up, but at least they respected her because you notice the goons never touched her, but she began talking trash to Thomas because he called the goons over that outnumbered the gangsters, she got so out of line, he just threw liqour in her face, and she got the stabbing, now they are in full chase after her, because she just killed one of the goons from their clique...
I wasn't going to comment on some of the rebuttals that millionaire1982 has decided to spew on the website but I cannot remain silent...millionaire1982, I as well, was brought up amongst "white" people all my life but that doesn't mean that I would ever downplay my heritage...you sound ignorant, childish, abrupt and highly uneducated. If you hate black people so much, my suggestion would be to drink Drain-o over frozen bleach cubes and STFU!
@millionaire1982-No offense love but life is what you make it. That what your feeble mine described is not a white life...I've dated guys that were so-called brought up in the "ghetto" yet they managed to go to an Ivy League university, secure a $90,000 career and drive a luxury car but they never denied their black background...never. It was a chance to obtain a better life...not the "white life"
There were numerous witnesses to back up her story. I think this is just some bitter and delusional family member who can't accept that this relative of theirs was a criminal at heart that had no plans to change his ways. He is dead now, that family needs to focus on the man's child so that the child won't turn out that way and leave this little girl alone.
@ millionaire 1982 u are retarted The first recognised cases of AIDS occurred in the USA in the early 1980s (more about this period can be found on our history of aids page). A number of *** men in New York and California suddenly began to develop rare opportunistic infections and cancers that seemed stubbornly resistant to any treatment. At this time, AIDS did not yet have a name, but it quickly became obvious that all the men were suffering from a common syndrome.
THE FIRST HIV CASE CAME FROM YOU LMFAOOOOOO
Well MTO, the witnesses, the police officer, and the transit attendant need to get the story right, cause I coulda swore MTO said that she got off the train and tried to leave but the wouldn't let her and she stabbed one of them and ran back to get on the train after the others chased her! Somebody is lying! The second story makes more sense though!
ok so if this is true why go to *** mto that doesnt make sense to me and mto she is a young girl and if they did try to harm her yall giving her full name and showing her face wtf is wrong with yall.Also according to the other story that posted about her was that there was witnesses that saw her trying to get off a train,so what i say mto is stop reporting this story until you have facts which yall dont really care about anyway lol and why wouldnt the guys fam say that every guilty person say they are innocent.I just hope she is ok cause if this is true that had to be scary as fck!
Yall are WRONG for posting her picture since she is a MINOR!! Now, when will people understand that if you kill someone in self defense, your only chance of proving it is to tell the police IMMEDIATELY!! I know someone who is doing 40 years cuz he didnt go to the cops first! If that were me, my *** wouldve ran straight to the cops! thats what we pay them for! She needs to speak before she makes herself look more suspect!
MTO I am too through with you all..Now she a 16 year old woman now that she murdered somebody...I find it so hard to believe that out of 8 goons...not one could catch her...Regardless...Regardless of who fought it is..a life was lost of some ***!! And whoever saw this happen...why didn't you do nothing to stop or called the police before it got out of hand...It's two sides to a story...so stop making this 16 year old "woman" as you all say out of something she may not be without getting the whole story first...SMDH!
I don't see how she was wrong still. I mean if the story is corect it was 8 on 3. One of the three being a 16 year old girl. Plus ppl bump into me all the time. Is that a reason to get mad??? I mean it is that same dumb *** that we see cause some one got they sneakers smudged!?! I mean they bumped the guy so what. Then they beat up the two dudes that were with her. Now they arguing wit a 16 YEAR OLD FEMALE. For what then just cause she got a fowl mouth you wanna toss drinks in her face. I mean She didn't have to stab him but you have to put yourself in her position. 8 goons vs. one 16 yr. old
Fear could have ben her motivation. If she is a gang member then you know it is about getting them b4 they get you... We really don't know what happened. But I know fair odds when I see them and this was far from a fair fight. Then you fightin cause someone bumped into you. I mean SO WHAT??? Who cares. Sometimes ppl bump me on purpose. Sometimes I am being bumped while I am being skipped in the grocery store. We have to much hate in our heart these days. LOVE ONE ANOTHER. No matter who they are.
I know I sometimes bump into ppl. Does that mean I gotta fight? No that just means I bumped into you. No big deal. No reason to stop me to ask for an excuse me or any of that. Hell You don't even know me. How should it be her fault. So what. She was disrespected and everything. Why poor drink in her face. They didn't know her. WELL NOW THEY DO. They will never forget her...
@millionaire1982... I believe you have a lot of self hatred. You probably weren't accepted as an adolescent because of your sexual preferance. See what you fail to realize is when the sh!t hits the fan you'll still be another ***!gg@ in the eyes of the system. For example.. You're in the club with your *** WHITE boyfriend. Some other *** white male comes to your boyfriend and asks for his number being completely disrespectful to you. Things escalate and a fight takes place. A white man ends up dead & you end up in jail. YOU'RE NOT GETTING OUT! You will always be considered inferior. Wake up dude
I used to live in queensbridge so i understand why she was carrying the knife but at the same time i know of her and she is mos def not as innocent as their tryna make her seem real big on drama...so i definitely believe the second story cause this mto "insider" is not the first person to bring that version of the story to light RIP Blackbox
From living in NY for a *** period of time I learned that.1)You Speak your mind!..2)>3 Monkeys at ALL times!(sad but the law of the streets)..and 3?..Get them, before they get you!..What a childhood, the violence that children witness in big cities.But it's that kind of reality that makes them(children) seek a BETTER way of life...(MOST!)Seems to me she was in a do or get done situation,4 real.He had to have been right up on her, for her to hit him hard and fast like that.His friend is not telling the whole truth,something is missing from this altercation.
"The victim's cousin claims a boy Cyan was with bumped into Winston which prompted the fight. However, according to authorities and witnesses, Cyan and Winston began to fight after he came on to her. In addition, he is accused of kicking her and throwing liquor on her."
HELLO! The cousins are liars and will do anything to get this girl in trouble. According to them she has a history of stabbing people. How come she has no record then? HUH? A 30 year old man living with a *** and who has an EXTENSIVE record....The legit witness saw them attack her first.....hmmmm
well her little *** should go to jail because how on earth could she take a life like that just because the boy told her something she didnt like. How is people resorting to such violence and think it is cool; I think she was also a gang member, and I hope she goes to jail for life. I thought the story was true, that she was being raped by a couple of men. Knowing the truth now,she should face the death penalty or something, because the boy didnt even threaten her.
Self defense by lethal force >allows for the use of deadly force anytime a faultless victim reasonably believes that unlawful force which will cause death or grievous bodily harm is about to be used on him.> So if 8 men were jumping her then she was within means. however the story this lady told sounds likely and with that she is dead wrong and deserves to go to jail. Lying about being raped is nothing to play! either way this is a disturbingly sad story.
