I really didn't want to respond but your ridiculous posts, again, have to addressed.
"Independents, which I am one, are not anyones "base". They are independents for a reason."
No, a persons "base" is whoever gets them elected on that certain year. There are even Rebs who
voted for Obama and they are counted as part of his base. This year, indies, youth, and *** are
all part of Os base. And he's lost support amongst them. He can't win on the backs of just Dems.
Therefore Dems are not his only base.
"Also, Obama passed the stimulus bill first and it took a year to even get the healthcare bill
That's exactly the problem. Whoopee he gave us tax cuts on the stimulus. Good. Then he gave all
our tax dollars to corporations who *** us with no lubricant. The bailouts simply put us in debt
and unemployment still went over what was projected. The fact that it took an entire year to pass
that gutted HC bill is the reason his poll slipped amongst his primary voters. The economy was still
struggling. Getting unemployment down should have been his priority during that lost year. Exactly
how is another discussion.
"Its also funny how any of you could call any healthcare bill "garbage" when this country barely
even took care of its healthcare in the first place, which again is another reason why the system is
jacked up, be greatful someone is willing to take steps to fixing it. What would you have done
regarding the healthcare system? Sine you supposidly have so much "knowledge" that you are
dropping on this site?"
Who said I wasn't appreciative that Obama tried to do something? I know he tried. But it wasn't
good enough. The bill is weak. It's filled with new regulations, mandates, and taxes. I see no "care"
here. But to answer your second question, oh I don't know, how about keeping a single payer
public option? How about not forcing people to buy insurance (because the government has no
power to do so according to the constitution)? How about not adding any new taxes? How about
fixing the fraud in Medicare? How about some TORT reform? How about a premium cap according
to a family or individuals income? I don't know things like that probably.
"Stn is in here attacking the President over supposidly not paying attention to the economy yet
claims they are paying attention to Ron Paul who basically is against almost any type of
And so is STN. Have you not been paying attention? And Ron Paul isn't against government
intervention. He's against government overreach. Big difference if you understand free market
principles. If you do, then you know exactly what Paul's position is. If not I'll explain in detail.
"Paul is against government yet holds a government position for decades. How is that not
hypocrisy at its finest?"
Is this a serious comment? Paul is NOT an anarchist? He's NOT against there being a
government. Your argument is invalid.
" I was pointing out his voting record because stn is on here preeching about what Obama needs
to focus on yet gives Ron Paul a pass for not focusing on anything other then lip service? Get
If you ever actually listened to Paul he constantly talks about what he would do as president and
the mistakes our government makes. And his voting record shows it. Paul can only pay lip service
because he's not in the position to make major policy decisions. He's not the president. Take your
own advice and get real. Also take a look at Paul's district. Pretty much survived the recession with
"Also, I have put my money where my mouth is by dedicating part of my life to my community, sort
of like this President did before he took office...have you??"
Yes. I volunteer down at the soup kitchen and my church organizes can drives. I haven't taken up
any boards yet however.
"Unlike some of you, I dont feel like anyone owes me anything. I can take care of myself. "
Stop projecting. No one ever said that we're owed something.
"Again, I really hope that all of you who spend your time preeching to others (which is what some
of you do) on this site actually have a background in contribution, because if not all you are doing
Hey come take a look at this. It's called the 1st Amendment. You ever heard of it? Yeah, it gives
us the freedom to speak our minds. Contribution doesn't necessarily make one informed or give
one the right to tell others what they can or cannot speak on. Once again, this is a discussion
board. People come here to discuss things. This site doesn't belong to you so you can't say who
can speak or not. No one can except Fred who has the power to ban people.
"Before you try to come on here playing captin save a ho, understand that some of us actually do
more then run our mouths"
Defer to comment above.
"Do yourself a favor and take your own advice, stay in your place and allow the ADULTS like
Obama and his administration to handle the problems facing this country (they are doing a far
better job then what was done the previous decade) while you can continue to spread your
"knowledge" on a gossip site."
Pitiful comment. Like I said before, this is a discussion board. We're here to debate and discuss
policy. Just because you personally don't want to discuss these issues and critique Obamas
policies does not mean others should not or don't have the right to. Period. Stop demanding whats
to and not to be discussed on a political thread.