This is a forum post by the user SexyChinkyEye_Blkman
: Transexuals are good at putting on make up (This is why alot of Women go to them for make up tips) but at the end of the day its still a MAN. The reason why they are good at putting on make up is because thier STILL Men and know what a Man likes to look at when it comes to Women. All and all though, they still have a ***, Thier still Men, and their still ***...There is no justification for having *** with the same ***, no matter how good or feminine they may look.
@TheGoodMask
First, let me get this out there. I'm in no way advocating that men should run around *** transsexuals, or that it's okay. Although I don't think it's wrong either. But I'm not advocating that. I do, however, advocate that people should look at the reality of human sexuality and how sexual attraction works, in an honest manner.
But, according to the argument a man would be straight for having *** with this guy (Buck Angel: [link to external website] but *** for having *** with this girl (Ana Mancini: [link to external website] and that's absolutely mind-boggling to me.
It's also not the only reason I disagree, but the one that required the least amount of space while maintaining the most mind-blowing *** imaginable. I hope your mind has been blown.
@Philosiphable
*** with the same *** is ***. Like I said earlier alot of em look good because they look FEMININE, I dont have a reason to bite my tounge about ***, I already know Im straight..I said SOME of em look good because they look like women e.g the make up, the implants, alot of women go to them for make up and fashion tips for a reason..
Now, Disect what I just said for a minute:
I said some of them LOOK nice, thats LOOK...based on the fact they try so hard to look like Women. If someone practices or trys hard at something eventually they will good at it, hence why alot of them are able to pull off the act better than a woman sometimes. What it comes down to is this: Thats the superfical asspect, your moral asspect will tell you: Thats really a Man, so though that man look PRETTY, its still a man so therefore you will not and should not go there. Besides, A Woman is at least the opposite gender, and she dont have a *** therefore your morals are gonna make you not have *** with a transexual, because if you do then your basically having *** with a man.
Bottom line
Well I don't think that's true. The fact that everyone is saying that Just because they have had [X] amount of operations that doesn't make them a woman....Well, technically and Scientifically it does. The Transgendered, the ones who have actually Paid Stacks to get the operation are what they desire to be. Once they have went through a number of steps they get the actual *** organ and on their Birth Certifications their *** is changed. So, Yeah. They are women..
@fCkiNGGR0SS You need to take a class on biology, once they get the surgery, female organs dont magically grow, what they do is cut your *** in half and invert it. The fallopian tubes, uterus, ovaries, egg cells, and cervix doesnt just magically grow in place. Just because you alter your body to look like something else that doesn't make it true. If I get an orange and paint if red can I call it an apple? If I bleach my skin, dye my hair blonde and wear blue contacts should I be able to change my race to Caucasian? So just because they get a few surgeries that doesn't make them women.
Stop arguing with ppl. If they say they're straight and have boinked a transexual then wat is it ur bizness? They know what they are better than u do. Maybe they don't like the label ur trying to tag them with...
most *** guys arent attracted to transexuals so they are dating mostly straight(trysexual) and bisexual guys
Im *** and ive had *** with women before (felt pressure by peers). I'm still *** @s he1l because im attracted to guys and love d1k/@zz... are u going to argue that im straight?
anyway, it's really not a big deal dude; just body parts rubbing together - and relationships are built on more than just ***...
+++ &&&&&&&&&&&&& - so u feel fine morally about premarital *** as long as its only with certain ppl? hmmmmmmm.... ok....
@nygga_in_the_etc...
There are a number of medical technicalities that render your argument somewhat superfluous. There are people who are genetically female (XX Chromosome pairing), but have male reproductive tissue (gonadal tissue etc.). They sometimes effectively have *** or penises. And some are, in fact, judged to be male at birth. But they're not male. And, no matter how saggy their *** are, they're still female. Just as there are genetic males (XY) with female, internal reproductive tissue (internal urethra, fallopian tubes etc.). To confine human sexual expression to the traditional dichotomy of male vs female is to ignore or miss the growing body of evidence that suggests that that kind of dichotomy is somewhat useless.
Also, there is something of a rule in distinguishing heterosexual and *** attraction. Generally, sexual dimorphism - those physical differences that delineate femininity and masculinity - plays a much larger role in heterosexual attraction than it does in *** attraction. That is, in heterosexuals, we're looking for those dimorphic characteristics that define "femininity" - larger hip to waist ratio, breasts and active lacteal mammary, softer features etc.. The fact that y-girl (gender) has a *** (***) is largely irrelevant when it comes to sexual *practice*. That's not what straight men are concerned with when it comes to the subconscious chemistry that defines who we're attracted to.
So when a man sees an attractive male to female transsexual, the brain and body of a straight man think it's feminine, and prepares for *** - for the same reason you can get a stud (horse) to mount and *** an artificial mare. Even if you *** a tranny who looked like a girl, you'd still be straight. Unequivocally. But if you find yourself attracted to men - with vaginas, who have bodies that signify the sexually dimorphic characteristics that delineate the masculine (i.e. Buck Angel), you're ***. No amount of *** in the world would make you or anyone else straight if you find yourself attracted to that kind of person. Sexual attraction, and sexuality itself, isn't simply about who has what genitalia or reproductive system. It's more about the totality of the stimuli.
@Philosobabble You keep making it seem like that *** is nothing but physical attraction, its all about the mental aspects to, and if you have *** with a tranny knowing that is was born a man, I dont give a *** how feminine it looks, you are *** point blank period. Thats like saying since the singer prince looks real feminine then its alright to have *** with him, because if we go by your logic then its alright to have *** with men as long as they look like women? Either way a man is a man, and you're still having *** ***
@Nygga...
Again, I'm not advocating anything of sort. I stated that explicitly in my second post. I'm only arguing that human sexuality isn't simply about whether a person has a *** or vagina - there are genetic issues, hormonal and social issues to contend with, as well as physiological issues.
For example, many male-to-female transsexuals and transgendered people have the brain chemistry of women. They're hormonally women. Many are intersexed in other ways (Chimerism, PMDS etc.), and have simply decided to choose one gender or *** identity over another. They just happened to make this choice as adults, when they were most comfortable with who they really are as human beings?
How do you define someone who was born with the genes and body of a man, but has fallopian tubes and an internal urethra? How do you define a woman who was born with secondary male reproductive tissue (Progestin-induced virilisation) and was identified as "male" at birth despite being genetically female? And how do you define the men who have *** with these kinds of people? Those are rhetorical questions, by the by.
It might make you and others more comfortable to think of human sexuality in such a simple way: you're either *** or you're not ***; you're either female or male, a man or a woman. But that's just ignoring and choosing to run away from reality. Medically, it's not true. Genetically, it's not true. Hormonally, it's not true. Physiologically, it's not true. I am choosing to look at this *** as it is. Human sexuality is complex. It's more complex than x-guy being *** or not *** for having or not having *** with transsexual people.
If you really believe that it's not all physical and it is partly mental (which I agree with), then you have to accept the counterpoise of your own logic. If a man sees a transsexual and sees a woman lying in front of him, he can't be ***. Period. That's the implication of YOUR logic. But, beyond all this ***, who the *** cares if they're ***? What's it to you? Let's say I agree with you for the sake of argument: they're ***. And what now? What? You're gonna' spend your day worrying about them, thinking about them, obsessing over them? What's the point of even trying to point it out?
@Philosobabble Im not referring to people who are intersexed, or people who was born with genetics of both sexes, im talking about regular men aside from genetic or hormonal defects, if you sleep with a tranny knowing that it was born a man then you are ***, because once the tranny utters the words "I was born a man" then a mental alarm in your brain should go off telling you to back away. and the reason im making a big deal about it is because a lot of thse men sleep with trannys then turn right back around and sleep with real women while spreading diseases.
@Fcking Gross
The ones who paid to go through the entire operation are not Women anymore than sweetpoto pie is pumkin pie, in other words theres more to being a Woman than having a vagina. All they merely did was take the *** and invert into them in other words pushed it back. They do not have a vagina, they have a cut off/ push backed ***. As far as everything else, the breast etc are just harmones they took, Women naturally contain a high concentration of estrogen, while Men contain a high concentration of testoterone, all they do is take high concentrations of estrogen and inject these female harmones into these men to make them appear more feminine, its still genetic engineering if you ask me. They still cant reproduce like a Woman can, thats the number one thing they cannot duplicate, A Woman's true hallmark is her ability to carry a baby and reproduce, a Man with a *** change cant do that...therefore they are not really Women.
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